Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: eutils function
Hi,
I followed this discussion quietly until now - I wonder why no one (?) has
mentioned the autotool-utils.eclass which is dedicated for this purpose (la-
file removal, static-libs USE-flag, etc), I think. This eclass also provides a
function remove_libtool_files which does what delete_libtool_archives would
do, but it also checks for situation where the files would be needed.
On Sunday 31 October 2010 05:28:42 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
Hi.
As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start
a thread about the eutils function. Please reply to this thread if you
have any comments about this point.
1. Add a function to eutils to deal with the removal of the .la files.
delete_libtool_archives() { find ${@:$D} -name '*.la' -delete }
That function was suggested by Diego, but Arfrever has argued that we
should replace : with - as '${@:$D} expands to a subarray containing
elements starting with element with index $D (where element 0 is $0)'.
The point in having this function in eutils is to ensure we use a
consistent way to address the .la files. This will also make it much
easier to adapt or review this function if needed.
Cheers,
Christopher
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files
El dom, 31-10-2010 a las 03:25 -0100, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto escribió: 3. Add a page to the QA project space (unless they're not interested) about la files and how to deal with them I think we can ask Diego to use large parts of his blog posts and charts about .la files[1], [2], [3], [4] as a source for the document. We can also add some basic info from the autobook[5], [6]. The goal would be to have a document similar to our own --as-needed guide [7] and to other distributions[8], [9]. Anyone wishes to volunteer for this task? QA would such a document be welcomed in your project space? Hello I rely a lot on devmanual, then, I think would be interesting to create a section on it telling us when should we remove .la files and how to do it properly. Thanks a lot :-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: QA document
El dom, 31-10-2010 a las 03:32 -0100, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start a thread about the QA document. Please reply to this thread if you have any comments about this point. 3. Add a page to the QA project space (unless they're not interested) about la files and how to deal with them I think we can ask Diego to use large parts of his blog posts and charts about .la files[1], [2], [3], [4] as a source for the document. We can also add some basic info from the autobook[5], [6]. The goal would be to have a document similar to our own --as-needed guide [7] and to other distributions[8], [9]. Anyone wishes to volunteer for this task? QA would such a document be welcomed in your project space? [1] - http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2008/04/14/whatabout-those-la-files [2] - http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2008/07/02/again-about-la-files-or-why-should-they-be-killed-off-sooner-rather-than-later [3] - http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/07/06/identifying-pointless-la-files-for-plugins [4] - http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/09/28/removing-la-files-for-dum-w-uncertain-people [5] - http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_11.html#SEC11 [6] - http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_68.html#SEC68 [7] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/asneeded.xml [8] - http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Libtool_archives#shared_build [9] - http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Overlinking - -- Regards, I rely a lot on devmanual, then, I think would be interesting to create a section on it telling us when should we remove .la files and how to do it properly. Thanks a lot :-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: eutils function
Am 31.10.2010 09:28, schrieb Christopher Schwan:
Hi,
I followed this discussion quietly until now - I wonder why no one (?) has
mentioned the autotool-utils.eclass which is dedicated for this purpose (la-
file removal, static-libs USE-flag, etc), I think. This eclass also provides
a
function remove_libtool_files which does what delete_libtool_archives
would
do, but it also checks for situation where the files would be needed.
On Sunday 31 October 2010 05:28:42 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
Hi.
As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start
a thread about the eutils function. Please reply to this thread if you
have any comments about this point.
1. Add a function to eutils to deal with the removal of the .la files.
delete_libtool_archives() { find ${@:$D} -name '*.la' -delete }
That function was suggested by Diego, but Arfrever has argued that we
should replace : with - as '${@:$D} expands to a subarray containing
elements starting with element with index $D (where element 0 is $0)'.
The point in having this function in eutils is to ensure we use a
consistent way to address the .la files. This will also make it much
easier to adapt or review this function if needed.
Cheers,
Christopher
Please dont top post, it makes it harder to read threads.
That suggested line will remove all .la files blindly, but there are 2 types of
.la files:
-those, which are only used for linking/static files
-those, which are used at runtime, e.g. for plugins
The line should exclude those .la files, which contain shouldnotlinkto=yes or
directly use the
autotools-utils eclass as suggested, since it already contains this
functionality together with a
nice USE flag (static-libs) for it.
--
Thomas Sachau
Gentoo Linux Developer
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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: eutils function
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Hi.
As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start
a thread about the eutils function. Please reply to this thread if you
have any comments about this point.
1. Add a function to eutils to deal with the removal of the .la files.
delete_libtool_archives() { find ${@:$D} -name '*.la' -delete }
That function was suggested by Diego, but Arfrever has argued that we
should replace : with - as '${@:$D} expands to a subarray containing
elements starting with element with index $D (where element 0 is $0)'.
The point in having this function in eutils is to ensure we use a
consistent way to address the .la files. This will also make it much
easier to adapt or review this function if needed.
- --
Regards,
Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: QA document
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start a thread about the QA document. Please reply to this thread if you have any comments about this point. 3. Add a page to the QA project space (unless they're not interested) about la files and how to deal with them I think we can ask Diego to use large parts of his blog posts and charts about .la files[1], [2], [3], [4] as a source for the document. We can also add some basic info from the autobook[5], [6]. The goal would be to have a document similar to our own --as-needed guide [7] and to other distributions[8], [9]. Anyone wishes to volunteer for this task? QA would such a document be welcomed in your project space? [1] - http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2008/04/14/whatabout-those-la-files [2] - http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2008/07/02/again-about-la-files-or-why-should-they-be-killed-off-sooner-rather-than-later [3] - http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/07/06/identifying-pointless-la-files-for-plugins [4] - http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/09/28/removing-la-files-for-dum-w-uncertain-people [5] - http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_11.html#SEC11 [6] - http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_68.html#SEC68 [7] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/asneeded.xml [8] - http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Libtool_archives#shared_build [9] - http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Overlinking - -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMzPFhAAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEPw84P/i8tpOguja80XDIpB68ewgcU O2lRYlvVA8LRPbcl2pBXnefHH4BtO2h1AHhjlOBO3upu/RGdP7IFR0Q5T8DLKr3O UZLoK4oGxYct053Ehp1WP2zhtQaRcDUcBzyyPEr7YdVl9oTud1dHplcojx/jas3r H3aXhBkMVE1s2PUXUfrLMz5WqAlSpDxkk+LVpWe6cvMjsZ2BqclYNXGKcKjldx0l GzzJO+nSyeFQ/Udn4dEO60ORhX6/2G9cGnBCWWDVAuTuht1+i6M8LxtJwVYlOg+c JQ1P9PFq6zLgNGOE122Bgzox+7wMPwsh+ja54mg6XK2YjeQ1jOGTLAitwwqL9BOk isCS0VTkzBhvJcOqzatVMGt/iDBa8zXOItl1nX3PQPnw07SsxqGGsZJWj8+gf0o0 heY9tbFnSMvMwVd7gKSpq80NVZ4mSlfZXKWkUWgatg3OLXF+A7sJhAxA16K9TU9x BaNADGfizC33z4JRLUNrtcocNoVFQWr6/OGybAkAn2JKGHEOuvhmupQET0b0qf18 qsG6unuv7DX93uCNkKxL+9qhghO8E3I1BWlecTXhdPJiD0cisxgYnoFrZ/F9aHbl FlYytKUH3bCiLuKy1RmkAG+YRjH4vYyIe9tTM+brBvU/NAJpbN4b36oUmOmj8Kdv JmT/C5sBOes+5QEV3X49 =czVz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: PM support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start a thread about the PM support. Please reply to this thread if you have any comments about this point. 5. Get portage-2.1.9* marked stable. As this portage version will fix the contents of the .la files when installing them, it will prevent the trouble caused by the hard-coded lib references - for all the .la files that will still need to be installed. One issue that remains open to me, is whether there will be any control over this feature. I was told the plan is to have it dependent on FEATURES, which to me doesn't make much sense. - -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMzPInAAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEPW7gQAIgOk/MHmum9YEJ07zBpKfiq 04MAQIEZxBnYl5XUFR8Hfeuht2VEPPhDubXJK6IzOjucjwcqdTrZeY7i6Ia5c6WG R2I1mqW+Z0nW21Bo0KAB1vfGeopDHLKzMyrJj55KxemgAalSwy+ot49/JH2Mdy8R jcNHGXBLvT9jGqIqu8P2FZvymiBn5IlCgntYxFUEHeM8TGnSXFRtKrryw2dLhJBw XKe30XmeclMYNjPNH/nCsqHNPGo0eIKU5e/c8Sqm37KGZ8JvoOQpMwxyFtMxmfjp +tUhciHEwjOnc3nNfckxjBQsVrLVQc6d9+bZcYhgfB2hF3riM19H1/EQLqkdQvBQ A4DyZKQlJT1BKRgWFxs/54t/sgDBg+74otVy0qiuXG9SOdvyytFbiclx8o7wACYc txQBpU/u46Iw+3QhJ01QFZkZZwG2kW9xCBCuZQC21AFln34urNnSy4CaHfHpNt2Y qnle/CZVSd3ZjmbPSfA/euSQ97l3LB9xlHt6Jj6Te15bu9hAW38+Vx/2zlY86L0e lvb/wWohrfuh4JzpTU6xOf5tSuVYL5AlXtZusXjUkpSdiNrT/k9clTbP6iItz4NN v43RCoVo/AjwgD/h/wgntR0AYt8ggrirvZjw6h0C5ngjM1h0PJJr5UwmEynW5TdG dkBY0DVCT7xS7VGWSQrO =9Tws -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: removing the files and profit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start a thread about removing the files and profit. Please reply to this thread if you have any comments about this point. 6. allow maintainers to work on .la files removal as they see fit After we provide maintainers consistent tools to remove .la files, create some good documentation about this, get a stable version of portage that helps addressing the issue for newly installed packages and warn users, maintainers are free to work on this as they can. - -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMzPKmAAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEPAC0P/38Q4kE+Slixt3uKgUdW29tB 8fpawmBadjU74frcvZsM4F4Ufix8fYFJsJUfMPCi9ugcWSkEvVNRkwe7KJEEV8FA t846X8LbokuoL2oLM6i1nVS0VkH+XhAx+1emE36x+OxH2GgAXNzWBJRquEsNMX8v vs2dpkgbvFWh7YbhEkFhfInlyw2o6qMLEtCjp2xRErJ+dAhpijwJUtkkoBJyqPbh UnbhFMeF0TSWUgnKgKiMdNT12BMLyd0NEI6+FXZXd1wB9ZHUiEXWKoCXQklr9wK/ XjzKwEPppf2J2HjgeTIERUkyydEmmBVUZBBdK2XGgmfPVCOa9rUCeV/waEbvwwua 6DV+fZYn4FTSP4cN5iq4wvr/ebu1dpenxijmTDKl/ASZ1rfv9YVuwiFcjzfwS/MB NNrVV0Wqso+znha1Raf4RZuwlXvG0MbA0DG4QedqQ/b0Iwm8FrG26C4nvPlPGU2y bUkg4P/f5PLu5I8iX7MpU8UBjH7gB/I7CxpRpYhZXr0jAT3SUYexQxnIYPeahOQo oAuQCTWDZ1py41zc18Q8mBoqoloVvxXLeLc0uZvoJOlnIAPLMdfSOSRJAjLEMIfM Clszxd3Z6VKTMqFcz3NrJCWyF6wCZplR5KkJ6x3AMA0yRGyTZ2eRMX/M8TG2pY10 bRz4mLBevvY+8YABPcPC =wGyS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
