Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-29 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 05:42:19PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > We now have IUSE="+cracklib" in sys-apps/shadow, sys-auth/pambase, and > sys-libs/pam (thanks robbat2). > > Does that address everyone's concerns? > > Enough so that I can revert the revert without anyone reverting the > revert r

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
We now have IUSE="+cracklib" in sys-apps/shadow, sys-auth/pambase, and sys-libs/pam (thanks robbat2). Does that address everyone's concerns? Enough so that I can revert the revert without anyone reverting the revert revert?

Re: OT: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-27 Thread R0b0t1
On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Nils Freydank wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017, 22:33:03 CET schrieb R0b0t1: >> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:32 AM, William Hubbs wrote: >> > As he said, he contactedd the maintainers in ample time, so I would say >> > that since they didn't respond he went a

OT: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-27 Thread Nils Freydank
Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017, 22:33:03 CET schrieb R0b0t1: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:32 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > > As he said, he contactedd the maintainers in ample time, so I would say > > that since they didn't respond he went ahead in good faith. I'll get the > > link later, but as I re

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-27 Thread R0b0t1
On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:32 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > As he said, he contactedd the maintainers in ample time, so I would say > that since they didn't respond he went ahead in good faith. I'll get the > link later, but as I recall, the dev manual recommends a 2-4 week wait > for maintainers not

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 05:42:04PM +0200, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > On K, 2017-12-27 at 09:57 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > 2) What you plan to do to have USE=cracklib enabled by default. Two > > > people suggested you should keep this (one way or another) but > > instead > > > everyone is now

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/27/2017 10:42 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > If you want to make such a base profile change, then I believe you > should contact the maintainers and see which one wants it default > disabled, and which default enabled; do the default enabled changes > and only afterwards you can touch a base defa

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-27 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2017-12-27 at 09:57 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > 2) What you plan to do to have USE=cracklib enabled by default. Two > > people suggested you should keep this (one way or another) but > instead > > everyone is now without it enabled by default. > > I plan to do nothing, because I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/27/2017 05:49 AM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > OK, let me explain again. > > In #gentoo we give a lot of attention and support to people who want to > set up full disk encryption, tor, VPNs, and other security mechanisms, > and this tells me that they actually want security. By saying that "some

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:30:35 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/21/2017 02:27 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:10:30 -0500 > > Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > >> The "cracklib" USE flag ... this commit removes it from > >> base/make.defaults. > >> > >> Closes: https://bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/21/2017 02:27 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:10:30 -0500 > Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >> The "cracklib" USE flag ... this commit removes it from base/make.defaults. >> >> Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/635698 > > As there: >> ... > > Let me (easily) counter that by sta

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-21 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:10:30 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > The "cracklib" USE flag has long (since 2007ish) been enabled by > default for all profiles. But, the features that it provides are not > critical for any of the packages that use it: typically, the library > is used to evaluate a candi

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] profiles: drop USE=cracklib from base/make.defaults.

2017-12-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
The "cracklib" USE flag has long (since 2007ish) been enabled by default for all profiles. But, the features that it provides are not critical for any of the packages that use it: typically, the library is used to evaluate a candidate password and to prevent the user from choosing a weak one. Sinc