Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-09-14 Thread Joonas Niilola
On 22.8.2021 23.14, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Yes! It is time to finally deprecate eudev! sys-fs/udev now builds > under musl! My original purpose for maintaining eudev was because > systemd + musl did not play well together when udev was absorbed into > the sytemd repo. Now

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-24 Thread Sam James
> On 24 Aug 2021, at 11:24, Jaco Kroon wrote: > > Hi All, > > We run glibc based systems. No musl. But we don't use systemd. > > As little as a year back we still ran into issues with systemd-udev > variant breaking systems, the fix of course was to nuke it and install > eudev. Are we cert

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-24 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 8/24/21 6:24 AM, Jaco Kroon wrote: > Hi All, > > We run glibc based systems.  No musl.  But we don't use systemd. > > As little as a year back we still ran into issues with systemd-udev > variant breaking systems, the fix of course was to nuke it and install > eudev.  Are we certain there is n

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-24 Thread Jaco Kroon
Hi All, We run glibc based systems.  No musl.  But we don't use systemd. As little as a year back we still ran into issues with systemd-udev variant breaking systems, the fix of course was to nuke it and install eudev.  Are we certain there is nothing (eg, LVM integration was our biggest problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/23/2021 12:24, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 2021-08-23 at 16:36 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, Anthony G Basile wrote: >> > **WARNING** > > If you happen to have an INSTALL_MASK with a blanket "*systemd*" > glob, you will inevitably break your system

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread Sam James
> On 22 Aug 2021, at 21:14, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > > [snip] > > > Title: eudev retirement on 2022-01-01 > Author: Anthony G. Basile > Posted: 2021-08-xx > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 2.0 > Display-If-Installed: sys-fs/eudev > Let's mention that people should double check if they're

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 at 18:24, Michał Górny wrote: > I'm pretty sure we've never officially advised anyone to remove > important directories via INSTALL_MASK. INSTALL_MASK on unit > directories will not affect udev users. On the other hand, if someone > was overzealous and stripped whole /lib/sys

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2021-08-23 at 16:36 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, Anthony G Basile wrote: > > > > > **WARNING** > > > > > > > > If you happen to have an INSTALL_MASK with a blanket "*systemd*" > > > > glob, you will inevitably break your system. sys-fs/udev > > > > contain

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 8/23/21 11:05 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:36 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, Anthony G Basile wrote: >> > **WARNING** > > If you happen to have an INSTALL_MASK with a blanket "*systemd*" > glob, you will inevitably break your sys

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread David Seifert
On Mon, 2021-08-23 at 11:16 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:46 AM David Seifert wrote: > > > > Let assume the counterfactual for a moment here: We retained the > > USE=systemd flag for all unit files and what not, so people can > > cleanse > > themselves of the systemd uni

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:46 AM David Seifert wrote: > > Let assume the counterfactual for a moment here: We retained the > USE=systemd flag for all unit files and what not, so people can cleanse > themselves of the systemd units etc. without resorting to INSTALL_MASK. > > How would USE=-systemd

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:36 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, Anthony G Basile wrote: > > >>> **WARNING** > >>> > >>> If you happen to have an INSTALL_MASK with a blanket "*systemd*" > >>> glob, you will inevitably break your system. sys-fs/udev contains > >>> "systemd" in

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread David Seifert
On Mon, 2021-08-23 at 16:36 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, Anthony G Basile wrote: > > > > > **WARNING** > > > > > > > > If you happen to have an INSTALL_MASK with a blanket "*systemd*" > > > > glob, you will inevitably break your system. sys-fs/udev > > > > contain

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, Anthony G Basile wrote: >>> **WARNING** >>> >>> If you happen to have an INSTALL_MASK with a blanket "*systemd*" >>> glob, you will inevitably break your system. sys-fs/udev contains >>> "systemd" in some of its filenames, hence a blanket filter rule will >>> likely lea

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 8/22/21 5:00 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 8/22/2021 16:14, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> Yes! It is time to finally deprecate eudev! sys-fs/udev now builds >> under musl! My original purpose for maintaining eudev was because >> systemd + musl did not play well together when

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-22 Thread Luca Barbato
On 22/08/21 22:14, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Yes! It is time to finally deprecate eudev! sys-fs/udev now builds > under musl! My original purpose for maintaining eudev was because > systemd + musl did not play well together when udev was absorbed into > the sytemd repo. Now t

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/22/2021 16:14, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Yes! It is time to finally deprecate eudev! sys-fs/udev now builds > under musl! My original purpose for maintaining eudev was because > systemd + musl did not play well together when udev was absorbed into > the sytemd repo. Now

[gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-22 Thread Anthony G. Basile
Hi everyone, Yes! It is time to finally deprecate eudev! sys-fs/udev now builds under musl! My original purpose for maintaining eudev was because systemd + musl did not play well together when udev was absorbed into the sytemd repo. Now thanks to patches from openembedded, they do, and my orig