Dear List,
as Gentoo is not the only project with large mailing lists, others suffer from
similar problems.
This is an overview on how other (well know) (community driven) projects
handle flaming and similar things.
Only use this thread to add further links or information as well as to correct
# Raúl Porcel armin76 at gentoo dot org (8 Mar 2007)
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# That is, 8 May 2007
# www-servers/aolserver and its rdeps - bug 108022
# www-misc/nscache
# www-misc/nsopenssl
# www-misc/nssha1
# www-misc/nsxml
# app-emulation/tiger - bug
I'm tired of maintaining essentially the same code in 20-odd ebuilds,
so I am wanting to condense the common bits into a single eclass.
Most of you probably don't care, but it may be of interest to those few
who maintain gkrellm plugin ebuilds.
I have attached my first draft of the eclass. As
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:19:20 -0600 Jim Ramsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have attached my first draft of the eclass. As you can see, there
are 3 main important benefits to using this eclass:
You shouldn't dodoc COPYING.
You don't need to set ECLASS manually any more.
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Ciaran McCreesh
Mail
Jim Ramsay wrote:
ECLASS=gkrellm-plugin
INHERITED=$INHERITED $ECLASS
No need to set INHERITED yourself any more either. Ciaran already
pointed out ECLASS.
gkrellm-plugin_pkg_setup() {
if ! built_with_use app-admin/gkrellm X \
! has X ${IUSE}; then
On 3/8/07, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:19:20 -0600 Jim Ramsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have attached my first draft of the eclass. As you can see, there
are 3 main important benefits to using this eclass:
You shouldn't dodoc COPYING.
How is it that it
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 02:50:11PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
to place my personal opinion, too but seperated from information/facts:
I feel like a netiquette should be developed, people who break it too often
should be warned, then banned.
When the situation normalizes again,
Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
On 3/8/07, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:19:20 -0600 Jim Ramsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have attached my first draft of the eclass. As you can see, there
are 3 main important benefits to using this eclass:
You shouldn't dodoc
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:04:20 +0100
Ioannis Aslanidis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How is it that it should not be done? Is it because the file is
usually a symlink? Or because there is simply no need to do it?
Because it's the package's licence. Guess where we already store
licence information.
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:04:20 +0100 Ioannis Aslanidis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/8/07, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:19:20 -0600 Jim Ramsay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I have attached my first draft of the eclass. As you can see,
there are 3 main
You shouldn't dodoc COPYING.
How is it that it should not be done? Is it because the file is
usually a symlink? Or because there is simply no need to do it?
It's generally agreed that installing licence files should only be done
if legally required. Otherwise, we already have a copy in the
If you really wanna flamefest... at least do it in private in our
forums: http://forums.gentoo.org (SSL enabled, if you want). At least
the flames will remain internal! :)
On 3/8/07, Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 02:50:11PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
to
if I'm using a pre-fix timezone file and using ntp will it correct my
machine to the correct time?
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On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 20:02 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
How useful is the X use flag in gkrellm? Just thinking if it would be
better to just remove the use flag and always build that code.
Regards,
Petteri
Back in the day, when gkrellm2 first came out, they had this option of
building
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:19:20 -0600 Jim Ramsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have attached my first draft of the eclass. As you can see, there
are 3 main important benefits to using this eclass:
You shouldn't dodoc COPYING.
You don't need to set ECLASS manually any
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:02:50 +0200
Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How useful is the X use flag in gkrellm? Just thinking if it would be
better to just remove the use flag and always build that code.
There is a possibility for headless servers to run gkrellmd, which runs in
background,
Caleb Cushing wrote:
if I'm using a pre-fix timezone file and using ntp will it correct my
machine to the correct time?
NTP is not timezone aware, it's merely seconds from epoch which your OS
interprets into the localtime. If you have tzdata2006p installed you
should be fine.
Be aware that
Petteri Räty wrote:
Jim Ramsay wrote:
ECLASS=gkrellm-plugin
INHERITED=$INHERITED $ECLASS
No need to set INHERITED yourself any more either. Ciaran already
pointed out ECLASS.
Indeed, thanks for that!
They just appeared automagically when I did 'vim foo.eclass' I wonder where
that
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:19:20AM -0600, Jim Ramsay wrote:
gkrellm-plugin_pkg_setup() {
if ! built_with_use app-admin/gkrellm X \
! has X ${IUSE}; then
eerror This plugin requires the X frontend of gkrellm.
eerror Please re-emerge
Marien Zwart wrote:
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:19:20AM -0600, Jim Ramsay wrote:
gkrellm-plugin_pkg_setup() {
if ! built_with_use app-admin/gkrellm X \
! has X ${IUSE}; then
eerror This plugin requires the X frontend of
gkrellm. eerror Please re-emerge
070308 Ra?l Porcel wrote:
www-servers/aolserver
www-misc/nscache
www-misc/nsopenssl
www-misc/nssha1
www-misc/nsxml
app-emulation/tiger
sys-apps/evkeyd
media-libs/libuta
net-misc/cipe
app-text/biblestudy
This applies to anyone else (smile) who prepares these lists,
eg those which appear
Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please could you stop attempting to create new threads by replying to
existing emails to the list? It's considered bad netiquette and
generally makes new threads difficult to spot. The list is hard enough
to parse as it is, without this added hindrance.
I
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 02:34:02PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear List,
as Gentoo is not the only project with large mailing lists, others suffer
from
similar problems.
This is an overview on how other (well know) (community driven) projects
handle flaming and similar things.
One thing worth noting is that we've just decided that the policy needs
to be updated so hopefully we'll see a new/expanded policy in a few
weeks.
Good. Maybe also a link to this netiquette on
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml might also be helpfull?
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gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 10:24:29PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing worth noting is that we've just decided that the policy needs
to be updated so hopefully we'll see a new/expanded policy in a few
weeks.
Good. Maybe also a link to this netiquette on
Bryan Østergaard wrote:
Gentoo has an etiquette policy as well at
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3chap=2
for interested people.
One thing worth noting is that we've just decided that the policy needs
to be updated so hopefully we'll see a new/expanded policy
Dale wrote:
Bryan Østergaard wrote:
Gentoo has an etiquette policy as well at
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3chap=2
for interested people.
One thing worth noting is that we've just decided that the policy needs
to be updated so hopefully we'll see a
Attached is version 2 of my draft eclass. I have incorporated the
excellent changes suggested here, and it seems to be working great on
my local overlay.
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Jim Ramsay
Gentoo/Linux Developer (rox,gkrellm)
# Copyright 1999-2007 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General
Caleb Cushing wrote:
if I'm using a pre-fix timezone file and using ntp will it correct my
machine to the correct time?
The forums are the appropriate place for these kinds of questions, not
the development mailing list.
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gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Bryan Østergaard wrote:
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 03:32:38PM -0600, Dale wrote:
I'm not a dev, just a lowly user, but maybe this policy needs to be
posted here since according to some of what I have read lately, this has
not been read before by several. Maybe when you first subscribe, it
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:43:01 +0100
Thibaut Fernagut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To start this I'm opening with a -dev question :
Why is mod_perl not in the default /etc/apache2/httpd.conf ?
I actually asked the apache folks about this once, and it was going to
be added - didn't realize it
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 03:51:42PM -0600, Jim Ramsay wrote:
gkrellm-plugin_pkg_setup() {
if [[ -z ${PLUGIN_NO_XCHECK} ]]
! built_with_use app-admin/gkrellm X; then
eerror This plugin requires the X frontend of gkrellm.
eerror Please re-emerge
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:34:39 -0500
Michael Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:43:01 +0100
Thibaut Fernagut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To start this I'm opening with a -dev question :
Why is mod_perl not in the default /etc/apache2/httpd.conf ?
I actually asked
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:34:39 -0500
Michael Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] (new subject line, so
hopefully unless your mail client threads but message-id's this should
break the chain)
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I guess you realise now, if you
i want to highlight the change made to the Council GLEP 39 as i dont think it
garnered much visibility last time:
- change to council GLEP 39 to cover when a Council member is no longer part
of the Gentoo project (the reason/rhyme is irrelevant). Idea is to
streamline slightly the bureaucracy
.
- Gentoo branded hardware was discussed and many ideas thrown about. This
also touched on the concept of Enterprise Gentoo.
the full log can be found at the normal location:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20070308.txt
-mike
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On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 14:37 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
This applies to anyone else (smile) who prepares these lists,
eg those which appear in GWN: please list things alphabetically ! ie
No. I list chronologically, since this is how it comes to me, and it is
also the fastest way for me to
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 21:03 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please could you stop attempting to create new threads by replying to
existing emails to the list? It's considered bad netiquette and
generally makes new threads difficult to spot. The list is
On 3/8/07, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 21:03 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please could you stop attempting to create new threads by replying to
existing emails to the list? It's considered bad netiquette and
# Steve Dibb [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8 Mar 2006)
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media-sound/DBMix
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This is an old issue, but I want to suggest a re-visit :)
As we all know, setting LC_ALL and friends can cause all sorts of
trouble in package builds. However, many users really appreciate
being able to set it so that errors from the compiler etc are in their
own language.
It occurs to me that
On Thursday 08 March 2007, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
As we all know, setting LC_ALL and friends can cause all sorts of
trouble in package builds. However, many users really appreciate
being able to set it so that errors from the compiler etc are in their
own language.
we've fixed our documents
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 14:23 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Thursday 08 March 2007, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
As we all know, setting LC_ALL and friends can cause all sorts of
trouble in package builds. However, many users really appreciate
being able to set it so that errors from the compiler
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:14:26 +0100
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is an old issue, but I want to suggest a re-visit :)
As we all know, setting LC_ALL and friends can cause all sorts of
trouble in package builds. However, many users really appreciate
being able to set it so
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