Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flags (network, 3dnowext, static-libs, mtp)

2009-06-03 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2009-06-03 at 02:13 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: USE network is used by 9 ebuilds, and one is using USE networking which can be converted, that'd be 10. USE 3dnowext is basic optimization, 3 ebuilds, but it should be with mmx and others. USE static-libs to enable or disable

Re: [gentoo-dev] A new glep: Ebuild format and metadata handling

2009-06-03 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 15:56 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote: Thank you for collecting this up! parsers: The current practise of putting the eapi definition near the top of the ebuild, combined with the need to state it for all non-EAPI0 ebuilds, suggests that it can be parsed without having to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Freeman wrote: Steven J Long wrote: Getting into a nonsensical debate about PN being metadata seems to be the level of the argument, so forgive me for not being very impressed. (It's externally derived and in fact the whole point of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-03 Thread Luca Barbato
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: I would like to kick-start the nominations by nominating Mart Raudsepp (leio), Petteri Räty (betelgeuse), and Luca Barbato (lu_zero) [all of them are CCed] Patrick Lauer wrote: * lu_zero, because he's done a good job and brings in his own ideas without going religious

[gentoo-dev] New metadata fields

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Dibb
I had an idea for some new fields to go in metadata.xml. Not sure if we would need a GLEP for this or not? Anyway, what do you guys think: Two things I can think of adding that would be useful: - ChangeLog URL - Bug Tracker I know I hate hunting down the two of them, and both of them could

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-03 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
2009/6/1 Dawid Węgliński c...@gentoo.org: On Monday 01 of June 2009 06:25:06 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Hello fellow developers and users. I nominate: peper Thank you, I accept. -- Best Regards, Piotr Jaroszyński

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass proposal: auto-export

2009-06-03 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Wednesday 22 of April 2009 15:35:37 Petteri Räty wrote: Here's an eclass proposal to wrap EXPORT_FUNCTIONS with auto detection of functions. This way all eclasses don't have to duplicate the EAPI detection code. If people find this useful, I will document it properly with eclass-manpages

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ACCEPT_LICENSE default value (GLEP 23)

2009-06-03 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Mounir Lamouri volk...@gentoo.org wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: Most licenses aren't for usage, but for distribution -- surely you mean EULAs? License and EULA is the same for most users and it's exactly the same for ebuilds/portage. EULA is an End-User

Re: [gentoo-dev] New metadata fields

2009-06-03 Thread Douglas Anderson
The equery 'meta' module in gentoolkit-0.3.0* can show all the upstream fields, though not many packages currently make use of it. Oh yeah, and there's a traceback in the upstream code that's been fixed but won't be in the tree until rc7, so you may want to wait to check it out. $ equery m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-03 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/6/1 Dawid Węgliński c...@gentoo.org: I nominate: [...] Calchan Thanks Dawid, and also Ferris. I accept. You can find my manifesto at http://dev.gentoo.org/~calchan/manifesto09/manifesto.html Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flags (network, 3dnowext, static-libs, mtp)

2009-06-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
Mart Raudsepp wrote: On K, 2009-06-03 at 02:13 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: USE network is used by 9 ebuilds, and one is using USE networking which can be converted, that'd be 10. USE network Enable networking support USE 3dnowext is basic optimization, 3 ebuilds, but it should be with

Re: [gentoo-dev] New metadata fields

2009-06-03 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Jeremy Olexa wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Steve Dibb bean...@gentoo.org wrote: I had an idea for some new fields to go in metadata.xml. Not sure if we would need a GLEP for this or not? Anyway, what do you guys think: Two things I can think of adding that would be useful: -

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flags (network, 3dnowext, static-libs, mtp)

2009-06-03 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Samuli Suominen wrote: Mart Raudsepp wrote: On K, 2009-06-03 at 02:13 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: USE network is used by 9 ebuilds, and one is using USE networking which can be converted, that'd be 10. USE network Enable networking support Maybe network and net could be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-03 Thread Richard Freeman
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: Richard Freeman wrote: Without actually intending to open a new debate on that issue cringes, I'm actually a fan of NOT obtaining PN and PV from the filename. I've seen an approach like this used in various systems and I happen to like it: In which systems did

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flags (network, 3dnowext, static-libs, mtp)

2009-06-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
Mounir Lamouri wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Mart Raudsepp wrote: On K, 2009-06-03 at 02:13 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: USE network is used by 9 ebuilds, and one is using USE networking which can be converted, that'd be 10. USE network Enable networking support Maybe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-03 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
2009/6/2 Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org: All, The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54, GLEP55, and EAPI-3 without any real

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-03 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Hi Doug, I just got to this thread, so sorry for entering the debate a bit late. I find your propositions very interesting. In my manifesto [1] I have proposed something significantly different which simply consists in spinning the long discussions off the council meetings using more focused

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ACCEPT_LICENSE default value (GLEP 23)

2009-06-03 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Mounir Lamouri volk...@gentoo.org wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: Most licenses aren't for usage, but for distribution -- surely you mean EULAs? License and EULA is the same for most users and it's exactly the same

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2009-06-03 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-06-03 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
2009/6/2 Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net: :: lacks that confusion.  It does have the additional complication of needing quoted or escaped in the shell, but users are supposed to do a --pretend anyway, and after it doesn't output what's expected, a user of any shell experience at all should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-03 Thread Richard Freeman
Denis Dupeyron wrote: In my manifesto [1] I have proposed something significantly different which simply consists in spinning the long discussions off the council meetings using more focused groups ++ I've seen this used to good effect on projects at work. The only challenge might be the

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Conflicting RDEPENDS

2009-06-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org wrote: Duncan wrote: Patrick Börjesson psychoti...@lavabit.com posted 20090529201741.gb11...@nexon.nexus, excerpted below, on Fri, 29 May 2009 22:17:41

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Conflicting RDEPENDS

2009-06-03 Thread René 'Necoro' Neumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) schrieb: Why is a custom set less convenient? Well, instead of emerge --trialware package you would first have to edit your @trialware set and then emerge @trialware. The same goes for when you want to remove some

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Conflicting RDEPENDS

2009-06-03 Thread René 'Necoro' Neumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan schrieb: Patrick Börjesson psychoti...@lavabit.com posted 20090529201741.gb11...@nexon.nexus, excerpted below, on Fri, 29 May 2009 22:17:41 +0200: Why exactly would you want to use --oneshot for a leaf package that is not depended on by