[gentoo-dev] app-text/dbacl is up for grabs

2012-12-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
Steev contacted me few hours ago to tell me he won't maintain dbacl anymore and, then, it's now up for grabs. Thanks for taking care of it signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Tony Chainsaw Vroon chain...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote: Actually, since ulm pointed out in another thread that the council has not mandated that we support separate /usr without an initramfs, I am re-considering

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote: There's no reason we /can't/ have a comparable process for CVS to eliminate needless slopping of files around in pastebins/emails, both of which are time consuming and not designed for doing exactly that. ... (lots of

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:42:27 + Tony \Chainsaw\ Vroon chain...@gentoo.org wrote: In less than two weeks, on Tuesday January the 8th, the council will meet again. Now is the time to prepare raise items that you feel should be put to a vote. Please reply to this e-mail with any

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2012, 14:37:37 schrieb Michał Górny: a) adding new profiles which will require EAPI=5 and requiring all users to migrate to them after upgrading portage. Using new use.stable.mask files in those profiles. b) adding new profiles (with current EAPIs) and requesting

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 07:55:38AM +, Tony Chainsaw Vroon wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote: Actually, since ulm pointed out in another thread that the council has not mandated that we support separate /usr without an initramfs, I am re-considering this.

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 08:00:09AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Tony Chainsaw Vroon chain...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote: Actually, since ulm pointed out in another thread that the council has not mandated that we

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:03 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 08:00:09AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Tony Chainsaw Vroon chain...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote: Actually, since

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:35:55PM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:03 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 08:00:09AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Tony Chainsaw Vroon chain...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed,

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:03 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: As I and others have said on this list a thousdand times, moving everything to /usr never had anything to do with systemd and udev. This is a completely separate topic. Understood. However, the whole request to not

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:49:50PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:03 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: As I and others have said on this list a thousdand times, moving everything to /usr never had anything to do with systemd and udev. This is a completely

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:37:37 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: c) 'fixing' the use.stable.mask feature and wording it in such a way that it would apply to EAPI 5 (or 6) packages independently of profiles EAPI. So what EAPI would be used to parse use.stable.mask? -- Ciaran McCreesh

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:49:50PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: Understood. However, the whole request to not have to support a separate /usr without an initramfs was brought up by the udev team. If udev doesn't have the

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread Tony Chainsaw Vroon
On Thu, 2012-12-27 at 15:14 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: Go bring up the suggestion that the kernel should support direct booting on lkml And be pointed at EFI_STUB functionality. Next? Regards, Tony V. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Tony Chainsaw Vroon chain...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-27 at 15:14 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: Go bring up the suggestion that the kernel should support direct booting on lkml And be pointed at EFI_STUB functionality. Next? I was referring to booting

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-text/dbacl is up for grabs

2012-12-27 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Quoting Pacho Ramos (2012-12-27 12:20:11) Steev contacted me few hours ago to tell me he won't maintain dbacl anymore and, then, it's now up for grabs. Thanks for taking care of it If nobody is interested I can take it. -- Amadeusz Żołnowski signature.asc Description: signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/27/2012 05:37 AM, Michał Górny wrote: EAPI 5 provides use.stable.mask files to solve this but those files require profiles to be EAPI 5. Therefore, in order to be able to use it we would have to actually break the update path for older portage versions completely. So, adding new

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:56:47 + Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:37:37 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: c) 'fixing' the use.stable.mask feature and wording it in such a way that it would apply to EAPI 5 (or 6) packages independently

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:41:08 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/27/2012 05:37 AM, Michał Górny wrote: EAPI 5 provides use.stable.mask files to solve this but those files require profiles to be EAPI 5. Therefore, in order to be able to use it we would have to actually break

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 26 December 2012 23:01:46 William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:48:23PM +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 24/12/2012 20:08, Mike Frysinger wrote: i.e. saying we should get rid of gen_usr_ldscript and use --libdir=/lib makes absolutely no sense. it's just begging

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 27 December 2012 13:49:50 Rich Freeman wrote: I think moving everything into /usr is a good idea. However: i don't think it's hard to support both. the majority of packages just want to relocate shared libs into / from /usr and that's easy with one line: gen_usr_ldscript

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 03:14:37PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: Something I don't like about this whole debate is that it tends to come off as I've never run an initramfs and darn it I want to keep it that way. Gentoo has always been a cutting-edge/innovative distro. We have prefix, hardened,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2012, 14:37:37 schrieb Michał Górny: a) adding new profiles which will require EAPI=5 and requiring all users to migrate to them after upgrading portage. Using new use.stable.mask files in those profiles. OK here's one way how we could pull option a) through.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/27/2012 03:40 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2012, 14:37:37 schrieb Michał Górny: a) adding new profiles which will require EAPI=5 and requiring all users to migrate to them after upgrading portage. Using new use.stable.mask files in those profiles. OK