Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: app-misc/secure-delete, app-misc/ccal, www-apache/mod_vhs, app-portage/epm, www-apps/online-bookmarks, sys-apps/i2c

2013-02-02 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Quoting Pacho Ramos (2013-01-17 20:21:30) # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org # Still uses depend.php (#449820), upstream dead for ages and # newer versions don't work. Removal in a month. www-apps/online-bookmarks Is there any goog alternative? -- Amadeusz Żołnowski signature.asc

Re: readme.gentoo.eclass: use echo -e instead of plain echo (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] readme.gentoo.eclass: Add a DISABLE_AUTOFORMATTING variable=

2013-02-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 01-02-2013 a las 21:34 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: El vie, 01-02-2013 a las 17:55 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió: On 1 February 2013 02:59, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El dom, 27-01-2013 a las 18:47 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: El dom, 27-01-2013 a las 15:00 +0100, Pacho

[gentoo-dev] bash-4 in ebuilds?

2013-02-02 Thread hasufell
From a little discussion in this bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454600#c11 it seems that it's not entirely sure what bash version can be assumed. PMS says, that I have to assume 3.2 or later https://dev.gentoo.org/~ulm/pms/head/pms.html#x1-620006 But there is no stable bash version

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-4 in ebuilds?

2013-02-02 Thread hasufell
On 02/02/2013 12:06 PM, hasufell wrote: portage itself depends on =app-shells/bash-4.2_p37 strike that || ( =app-shells/bash-4.2_p37[readline] ( app-shells/bash-4.2_p37 =app-shells/bash-3.2_p17 ) ) !app-shells/bash-3.2_p17

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-4 in ebuilds?

2013-02-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:06:39 +0100 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: From a little discussion in this bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454600#c11 it seems that it's not entirely sure what bash version can be assumed. PMS says, that I have to assume 3.2 or later

[gentoo-dev] rox herd looks inactive for a long time

2013-02-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello Reviewing last commits of lack (the only rox team member), looks like he hasn't committed anything rox related for some time. rox herd has some bugs assigned to them that looks unattended (even some easy to fix bugs). I have contacted the team but got no reply at all. Is anybody willing to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removals reply

2013-02-02 Thread Vaeth
The ebuild is still available by CVS (or maybe git in future), but if there were already a lot of gentoo patches, the tarball with these patches is lost forever. If even upstream is dead, not even the main tarball will be available anymore. Oh but it can mostly these archaic packages do not

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-4 in ebuilds?

2013-02-02 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/02/2013 12:13 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:06:39 +0100 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: From a little discussion in this bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454600#c11 it seems that it's not entirely sure

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
After talking with s4t4n the following packages are up for grabs due lack of time for maintaining them, feel free to catch them if you want: app-emulation/vov app-text/rtf2html dev-libs/libical dev-libs/libwbxml dev-util/jif media-gfx/qingy-themes net-misc/directvnc net-wireless/wifi-radar

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due caster lack of time

2013-02-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
After talking with him we agreed to have the following packages up for grabs: sci-geosciences/googleearth media-gfx/picasa (will probably be treecleaned as upstream dropped linux suppport time ago) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removals reply

2013-02-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: I just ask that Gentoo should not *hinder* the user in installing/ maintaining a package later by removing the tarballs (and possibly patches) which once were available. So, I can see the validity of this argument

[gentoo-dev] scheme herd needs help

2013-02-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
After talking with them, it's really understaffed to properly handle all packages they cover right now. Would be nice if anyone would be willing to join (as a dev or proxy maintainer). The following packages are especially needed of a maintainer to handle them: dev-scheme/tinyscheme

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removals reply

2013-02-02 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Dne So 2. února 2013 12:44:30, Vaeth napsal(a): When I came to Gentoo many years ago, this was a very rare problem, but the removal of packages has tremendously increased, and it is not only me who is observing this problem - there were already some threads in the forums, and people planning

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: app-misc/secure-delete, app-misc/ccal, www-apache/mod_vhs, app-portage/epm, www-apps/online-bookmarks, sys-apps/i2c

2013-02-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Amadeusz Żołnowski aide...@gentoo.org wrote: Quoting Pacho Ramos (2013-01-17 20:21:30) # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org # Still uses depend.php (#449820), upstream dead for ages and # newer versions don't work. Removal in a month. www-apps/online-bookmarks Is

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: games-arcade/xboing

2013-02-02 Thread James Cloos
MS == Michael Sterrett mr_bon...@gentoo.org writes: MS # Old, dead upstream, slightly broken and uses imake. Nothing wrong with old. The web page is still there. It works reasonably well and THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IMAKE. MS # Masked for removal on 20130302 MS games-arcade/xboing One

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please stop useless removals

2013-02-02 Thread James Cloos
AW == Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org writes: AW If folks do not want to maintain it anymore, then it will be removed. That is about as harmful an attitude as possible. If you don't personally care about a package just leave it alone! And if you want more maintainers, then drop the schoolkid

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removals reply

2013-02-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:05:50PM +0100, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Dne So 2. února 2013 12:44:30, Vaeth napsal(a): When I came to Gentoo many years ago, this was a very rare problem, but the removal of packages has tremendously increased, and it is not only me who is observing this problem -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removals reply

2013-02-02 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/02/2013 01:49 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:05:50PM +0100, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Dne So 2. února 2013 12:44:30, Vaeth napsal(a): When I came to Gentoo many years ago, this was a very rare problem, but the removal of

Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

2013-02-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 15:55 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió: 28.01.2013 23:26, Pacho Ramos пишет: Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but not in for-gentoo one, then, it probably has some

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: games-arcade/xboing

2013-02-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 2. Februar 2013, 19:11:30 schrieb James Cloos: MS == Michael Sterrett mr_bon...@gentoo.org writes: MS # Old, dead upstream, slightly broken and uses imake. Nothing wrong with old. The web page is still there. It works reasonably well and THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IMAKE.

Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

2013-02-02 Thread Dustin C. Hatch
On 2/2/2013 13:19, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 15:55 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió: 28.01.2013 23:26, Pacho Ramos пишет: Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but not in for-gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removals reply - please write adequate log messages!

2013-02-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag, 1. Februar 2013, 14:53:19 schrieb Tomáš Chvátal: just to be sure here Removals are completely up to the maintainer to decide, with expection of QA removal where the package must be already broken to get punted. If you as developers and users find some package useful you can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please stop useless removals

2013-02-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:14 AM, James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote: AW == Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org writes: AW If folks do not want to maintain it anymore, then it will be removed. That is about as harmful an attitude as possible. If you don't personally care about a package just

[gentoo-dev] Add test to IUSE_IMPLICIT

2013-02-02 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
After years of if use test ; then ... just working when FEATURES=test is declared, it isn't working with EAPI5. I think we could save some bytes and headaches if we just add test to IUSE_IMPLICIT. Portage's emerge's --newuse option won't be affected by this. From `man emerge`: NOTE: This option

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add test to IUSE_IMPLICIT

2013-02-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 23:33:26 + Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote: After years of if use test ; then ... just working when FEATURES=test is declared, it isn't working with EAPI5. You shouldn't admit that for years you didn't knew that this was incorrect and you should have been

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add test to IUSE_IMPLICIT

2013-02-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 00:50:02 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: What will be the impact on metadata? It seems that the PMS allows dependencies on IUSE_EFFECTIVE, so we can basically have dependencies with flags which are valid only on some of the profiles... I don't get it. Be more

Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

2013-02-02 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013, at 02:24 PM, Dustin C. Hatch wrote: On 2/2/2013 13:19, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 15:55 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió: 28.01.2013 23:26, Pacho Ramos пишет: Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is Sabayon using? They look

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due caster lack of time

2013-02-02 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 2013-02-02, at 7:20 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: After talking with him we agreed to have the following packages up for grabs: sci-geosciences/googleearth media-gfx/picasa (will probably be treecleaned as upstream dropped linux suppport time ago) I just tried installing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add test to IUSE_IMPLICIT

2013-02-02 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 12:50:02AM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 23:33:26 + Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote: After years of if use test ; then ... just working when FEATURES=test is declared, it isn't working with EAPI5. You shouldn't admit that for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add test to IUSE_IMPLICIT

2013-02-02 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 2013-02-02, at 6:50 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 23:33:26 + Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote:. First of all, you should note that you will still need to add IUSE=test to pre-EAPI 5 ebuilds. Secondly, what about all the ebuilds which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removals reply

2013-02-02 Thread Vaeth
Sorry, but I feel that I must explain once more: When I came to Gentoo many years ago, this was a very rare problem, but the removal of packages has tremendously increased, and it is not only me who is observing this problem - there were already some threads in the forums, and people planning

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removals reply

2013-02-02 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Sun, 2013-02-03 at 06:07 +0100, Vaeth wrote: So this 30 day delay will enable these people to get involved, especially for all the packages which were removed in the last years? Now it is apparent that an archive for dropped packages (in the form of keeping masked packages or some other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removals reply

2013-02-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: Sorry, but I feel that I must explain once more: When I came to Gentoo many years ago, this was a very rare problem, but the removal of packages has tremendously increased, and it is not only me who is observing

[gentoo-dev] Re: changes to tested bugzilla keyword proposal

2013-02-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 06:15:32 -0500 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: If we added a Keyword/Stable Request component to the Gentoo Linux product we could also have it dependent on that, so only bugs in that component

[gentoo-dev] Re: bash-4 in ebuilds?

2013-02-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:06:39 +0100 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: From a little discussion in this bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454600#c11 it seems that it's not entirely sure what bash version can be assumed. We have eclasses that require Bash 4 (eg.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Add test to IUSE_IMPLICIT

2013-02-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 23:33:26 + Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote: After years of if use test ; then ... just working when FEATURES=test is declared, it isn't working with EAPI5. I would say that's a bug fix. If you're checking if a USE flag is set then it had better be in IUSE.