[gentoo-dev] linux-firmware (was: Re: Packages up for grabs due lack of time)

2013-02-17 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, Rick \Zero Chaos\ Farina wrote: I would be very happy to have the licensing issues fixed, it looks like it won't be fun, however I was originally told that redist was a required right for things to be added to linux-firmware at all so I fear a lot of things may be out of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-17 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:06:19 -0500 Rick \Zero_Chaos\ Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/2013 10:11 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: Can we please stop removing individual firmware packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-17 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 17/02/13 12:05, Michał Górny wrote: savedconfig is a cheap hack. It lacks all the features USE flags have. Really. We're talking here about replacing well-organized packages with one cheap hack for the laziness of a few developers. But that's how Gentoo worked for a long time. This is how

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
Regarding licensing issues, maybe we could take fedora package as reference for clarifying firmware licenses and so: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/linux-firmware.git/tree/linux-firmware.spec signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-17 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:09:22 +0200 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 17/02/13 12:05, Michał Górny wrote: savedconfig is a cheap hack. It lacks all the features USE flags have. Really. We're talking here about replacing well-organized packages with one cheap hack for the

[gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
In the last time I'm helping some other arches (also arches which I have no interest) because they appears understaffed. Days ago, I tried to make a virtual machine with qemu, for SH since the dev- machine[1] is a bit slow; well, I discovered we have no ISO[2] available and there is no

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 05:03:43PM +0100, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: Now, imho, we have 2 choice: 1)Support them with an iso or at least a manual if we can't do an handbook 2)Lose the stable keyword and don't waste manpower anymore. We also have another choice if there is so little interest in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-17 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: 1.) No new firmware is being added to the linux kernel anymore, so this doesn't apply at all. Of course it applies — interaction of make modules_install with emerging linux-firmware can result in collisions. And

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-17 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Maxim Kammerer schrieb: On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: Kernel sources providing /lib/firmware itself shouldn't be a problem either, as that's just a dir, which many packages may own. The individual firmware files would be a problem, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-17 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Rick Zero_Chaos Farina schrieb: What is everyone's opinion of adding a USE=firmware option to pull in PDEPEND=linux-firmware in linux-2.eclass? No, USE flags that trigger only dependencies and do not change the package should be restricted to virtuals or metapackages, with as few exceptions as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-17 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Diego Elio Pettenò schrieb: On 16/02/2013 14:08, Pacho Ramos wrote: sys-firmware/iwl3945-ucode sys-firmware/iwl4965-ucode Are these included in linux-firmware (i.e. could we just remove them) or not? These are included in linux-firmware. And because Intel has EOL'ed the chipsets, it is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-17 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Peter Stuge schrieb: linux-firmware is okey but not great. The high resolution is there, which was my main concern, but it's not so easy to know how to create a savedconfig without installing the package. Just create a text file /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware with the

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 17. Februar 2013, 17:03:43 schrieb Agostino Sarubbo: In the last time I'm helping some other arches (also arches which I have no interest) because they appears understaffed. Days ago, I tried to make a virtual machine with qemu, for SH since the dev- machine[1] is a bit slow;

[gentoo-dev] Ebuilds for nodejs apps - HOWTO?

2013-02-17 Thread Leho Kraav
Hi all I'm taking a look at etherpad-lite ebuild at https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328897 It's a pretty big of a mess, but as I'm searching around, I can't really find any guidelines on how nodejs / npm stuff is supposed fit in with Portage. dev-nodejs/ doesn't even exist. Is

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Joking aside, I can imagine architectures where it's preferable to set up a stage directly from a running maintenance system (maybs s390???). Also, none of my arm gadgets comes with a CD drive, so I had to e.g.

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/17/2013 04:03 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: In the last time I'm helping some other arches (also arches which I have no interest) because they appears understaffed. Days ago, I tried to make a virtual machine with qemu, for SH since the

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
On Sunday 17 February 2013 19:36:16 Markos Chandras wrote: First you need to tell us what arches you think they are considered 'minor' and/or understaffed so we can finally document that. Then, in my opinion, the ideal approach would be to just drop the stable keywords for them.

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/17/2013 07:43 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: On Sunday 17 February 2013 19:36:16 Markos Chandras wrote: First you need to tell us what arches you think they are considered 'minor' and/or understaffed so we can finally document that. Then, in

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
On Sunday 17 February 2013 20:22:00 Markos Chandras wrote: I am not sure what are you trying to prove here. I point out that there is not iso, no manual, no manpower. No project page does not mean the arch is minor or dead or whatever. For me this means that there is no enough support.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuilds for nodejs apps - HOWTO?

2013-02-17 Thread Peter Stuge
Leho Kraav wrote: I'm taking a look at etherpad-lite ebuild at https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328897 It's a pretty big of a mess, but as I'm searching around, I can't really find any guidelines on how nodejs / npm stuff is supposed fit in with Portage. dev-nodejs/ doesn't even

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sunday 17 February 2013 19:36:16 Markos Chandras wrote: First you need to tell us what arches you think they are considered 'minor' and/or understaffed so we can finally document that. Then, in my opinion, the ideal

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
On Sunday 17 February 2013 13:14:28 Alec Warner wrote: It is not clear to me why you would email the -dev list about these arches, vapier is pretty responsive over email and irc. I don't guess is a good idea have a private conversation and then drop an arch... -- Agostino Sarubbo / ago -at-

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Qt category move

2013-02-17 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 16/02/2013 13:08, Ben de Groot wrote: Questions can be directed to our IRC channel #gentoo-qt or email q...@gentoo.org So what's the final word on the move? dev-qt/core or dev-qt/qt-core ? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/17/2013 08:40 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: On Sunday 17 February 2013 20:22:00 Markos Chandras wrote: I am not sure what are you trying to prove here. I point out that there is not iso, no manual, no manpower. No manual does not mean no

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/17/2013 09:30 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: On Sunday 17 February 2013 13:14:28 Alec Warner wrote: It is not clear to me why you would email the -dev list about these arches, vapier is pretty responsive over email and irc. I don't guess is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Qt category move

2013-02-17 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/17/2013 09:35 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 16/02/2013 13:08, Ben de Groot wrote: Questions can be directed to our IRC channel #gentoo-qt or email q...@gentoo.org So what's the final word on the move? dev-qt/core or dev-qt/qt-core ?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Qt category move

2013-02-17 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 17/02/2013 23:04, Markos Chandras wrote: We will use qt* instead of qt-*[1] to match the way upstream names the modules. So that would be dev-qt/qtcore etc Thanks, and thanks for the link, as I wouldn't have known how to rename the deps myself otherwise... -- Diego Elio Pettenò —

Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 02/17/2013 11:03 AM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: In the last time I'm helping some other arches (also arches which I have no interest) because they appears understaffed. Days ago, I tried to make a virtual machine with qemu, for SH since the dev- machine[1] is a bit slow; well, I discovered we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuilds for nodejs apps - HOWTO?

2013-02-17 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le dimanche 17 février 2013 à 21:08 +0200, Leho Kraav a écrit : Hi all I'm taking a look at etherpad-lite ebuild at https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328897 It's a pretty big of a mess, but as I'm searching around, I can't really find any guidelines on how nodejs / npm stuff is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuilds for nodejs apps - HOWTO?

2013-02-17 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 18/02/2013 00:39, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: I have package some nodejs stuff related to rethinkdb in my overlay if you want to have a look. Namely lessc and coffee-script. There is close to no packaging (let alone decent) with nodejs apps but if you are motivated enough, maybe there is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuilds for nodejs apps - HOWTO?

2013-02-17 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le lundi 18 février 2013 à 00:42 +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò a écrit : On 18/02/2013 00:39, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: I have package some nodejs stuff related to rethinkdb in my overlay if you want to have a look. Namely lessc and coffee-script. There is close to no packaging (let alone

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Qt category move

2013-02-17 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 17/02/2013 23:04, Markos Chandras wrote: We will use qt* instead of qt-*[1] to match the way upstream names the modules. So that would be dev-qt/qtcore etc Thanks, and thanks for the link, as I wouldn't

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-02-17 23h59 UTC

2013-02-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-02-17 23h59 UTC. Removals: media-tv/ivtv-firmware 2013-02-11 05:02:06 cardoe net-wireless/zd1201-firmware2013-02-11 14:15:51

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuilds for nodejs apps - HOWTO?

2013-02-17 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 18/02/2013 00:46, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: rethinkdb is a young project and its build system is a 1.5k lines makefile horror. I wouldn't reintroduce stuff that isn't used in tree just for this. I, at least, am not interested in moving this to the tree. I just added it to my overlay for

[gentoo-dev] Re: The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo

2013-02-17 Thread Duncan
Markos Chandras posted on Sun, 17 Feb 2013 21:36:53 + as excerpted: On 02/17/2013 09:30 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: On Sunday 17 February 2013 13:14:28 Alec Warner wrote: It is not clear to me why you would email the -dev list about these arches, vapier is pretty responsive over email and

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-17 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:40:10 +0100 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote: Peter Stuge schrieb: linux-firmware is okey but not great. The high resolution is there, which was my main concern, but it's not so easy to know how to create a savedconfig without installing the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-17 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:42:11 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: I would justify it through keeping things split and bit-exact clean, instead of tightly integrated. Separate ebuilds mean that: - each firmware has proper license, - each firmware can be installed separately and

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] depgraph: tweak required by message format

2013-02-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
The current output format for listing a chain of dependencies produces one long flat line that can be hard to read. For example, if you mask dev-lang/ruby and then try to install dev-ruby/json, you'll see: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: (see package.unmask in the

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] depgraph: tweak required by message format

2013-02-17 Thread Zac Medico
On 02/17/2013 06:21 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: The current output format for listing a chain of dependencies produces one long flat line that can be hard to read. For example, if you mask dev-lang/ruby and then try to install dev-ruby/json, you'll see: Looks like the comments got stripped by

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] depgraph: tweak required by message format

2013-02-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 17 February 2013 22:18:30 Zac Medico wrote: On 02/17/2013 06:21 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: The current output format for listing a chain of dependencies produces one long flat line that can be hard to read. For example, if you mask dev-lang/ruby and then try to install