Hi, everyone.
We've moved our official support channels from Freenode to Libera.chat.
All that's happened afterwards pretty much proves that this was
the right decision. Maybe even to the point of saying that staying
on Freenode would be dangerous to our users (e.g. because of the late
NickServ
On Mon, 2021-06-14 at 09:11 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 6/14/21 8:16 AM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I need to generate a pkg list from an uptodate gentoo system too feed this
> > list into qmerge
> > so qmerge can install these pkgs in correct order.
> >
> > Tried emerge -e but
Hi,
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 11:13:19 +0200
Michał Górny wrote:
> However, there are still IRC clients in Gentoo that default to
> Freenode. I think the next questions we need to answer are:
My recommendation would be to prioritize asking upstreams to change
defaults.
We can still patch defaults
Signed-off-by: Marek Szuba
---
eclass/sword-module.eclass | 10 +-
1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
diff --git a/eclass/sword-module.eclass b/eclass/sword-module.eclass
index 2ae58d1e51b..f8ae83c9f05 100644
--- a/eclass/sword-module.eclass
+++ b/eclass/sword-module.eclass
On 16.6.2021 12.13, Michał Górny wrote:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> We've moved our official support channels from Freenode to Libera.chat.
> All that's happened afterwards pretty much proves that this was
> the right decision. Maybe even to the point of saying that staying
> on Freenode would be
Signed-off-by: Marek Szuba
---
eclass/lua.eclass | 8
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
diff --git a/eclass/lua.eclass b/eclass/lua.eclass
index 46d9e848c87..e3a25c5d184 100644
--- a/eclass/lua.eclass
+++ b/eclass/lua.eclass
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-# Copyright 1999-2020 Gentoo
Signed-off-by: Marek Szuba
---
eclass/lua-single.eclass | 8
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
diff --git a/eclass/lua-single.eclass b/eclass/lua-single.eclass
index 11c2790dac2..7abe1eb6674 100644
--- a/eclass/lua-single.eclass
+++ b/eclass/lua-single.eclass
@@ -1,4 +1,4
Nothing special here. RESTRICT manipulation in lua-utils still uses +=
on purpose, for consistency with how other variables are handled there
as well as in order to avoid wasting CPU cycles on an EAPI version
check for something that ultimately achieves the same.
Signed-off-by: Marek Szuba
---
eclass/lua-utils.eclass | 4 ++--
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/eclass/lua-utils.eclass b/eclass/lua-utils.eclass
index ddf44f354e1..59959eaf9c0 100644
--- a/eclass/lua-utils.eclass
+++ b/eclass/lua-utils.eclass
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
#
On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 12:43 +0300, Joonas Niilola wrote:
> On 16.6.2021 12.13, Michał Górny wrote:
> > Hi, everyone.
> >
> > We've moved our official support channels from Freenode to Libera.chat.
> > All that's happened afterwards pretty much proves that this was
> > the right decision. Maybe
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021, Michał Górny wrote:
> We've moved our official support channels from Freenode to Libera.chat.
> All that's happened afterwards pretty much proves that this was
> the right decision. Maybe even to the point of saying that staying
> on Freenode would be dangerous to our
On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 12:06 +0200, Andrew Ammerlaan wrote:
> IMO it makes most sense to just switch the default to irc.gentoo.org if
> we are going to change defaults anyway.
We can't really do that as ircs://irc.gentoo.org causes certificate
hostname mismatch.
--
Best regards,
Michał Górny
Hi,
The most recent version of Portage detects and verbosely reports
warnings from setup.py. Now ago's CI also reports them to package
maintainers. The most common kind of issue looks like this:
* QA Notice: setuptools warnings detected:
*
* Usage of dash-separated 'force-manifest'
On 2021-06-16 13:28, Michal Prívozník wrote:
Why should we mangle with packages this way? I mean, to me Gentoo was
one of the few distros that allowed real choice for users (systemd vs
openrc, selinux or !selinux, etc.). We shouldn't be making choices on
behalf of users. The best we can do is to
I’d be inclined to agree with this take, seems sensible, although I’d also
think the removal of freenode could be very reasonable given their actions have
at best demonstrated extremely poor judgement to the detriment of users, or at
worst maliciousness.
The other thing could be a freenode use
On 16/06/2021 11:45, Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 12:43 +0300, Joonas Niilola wrote:
On 16.6.2021 12.13, Michał Górny wrote:
Hi, everyone.
We've moved our official support channels from Freenode to Libera.chat.
All that's happened afterwards pretty much proves that this was
the
On 2021-06-16 11:22, Michał Górny wrote:
IMO it makes most sense to just switch the default to irc.gentoo.org if
we are going to change defaults anyway.
We can't really do that as ircs://irc.gentoo.org causes certificate
hostname mismatch.
On a somewhat tangential note, could we add a TLSA
On 6/16/21 11:21 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021, Michał Górny wrote:
>
>> We've moved our official support channels from Freenode to Libera.chat.
>> All that's happened afterwards pretty much proves that this was
>> the right decision. Maybe even to the point of saying that
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 7:28 AM Michal Prívozník wrote:
>
> On 6/16/21 11:21 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021, Michał Górny wrote:
> >
> >> We've moved our official support channels from Freenode to Libera.chat.
> >> All that's happened afterwards pretty much proves that
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021, Michal Prívozník wrote:
>>> 1. Should we be proactively changing the default network in IRC clients
>>> (provided they have one) from Freenode to Libera.chat
>>
>> Yes. IMHO Freenode is no longer a reasonable default.
> Why should we mangle with packages this way? I
> On 16 Jun 2021, at 16:12, Sam James wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 16 Jun 2021, at 10:13, Michał Górny wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>
> The only case not covered by your questions is where an IRC client
> might autojoin #gentoo@libera (Smuxi does this with #smuxi) in which
> case we want to update it.
>
>>
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
> On 2021-06-16 13:28, Michal Prívozník wrote:
>> Why should we mangle with packages this way? I mean, to me Gentoo was
>> one of the few distros that allowed real choice for users (systemd vs
>> openrc, selinux or !selinux, etc.). We shouldn't
On 2021-06-16 11:13, Michał Górny wrote:
1. Should we be proactively changing the default network in IRC clients
(provided they have one) from Freenode to Libera.chat?
1a. If yes, then should we also make a change if clients default to
network other than Freenode?
Adding *our* network in case
On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 17:03 +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
> > Quick recap for people that haven't been following the news or got
> > confused in the lots of data:
> >
> > 1. Freenode was sold in 2017 to some guy who apparently wasn't supposed
> > to interfere with its operations.
> >
> > 2.
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 11:42 AM Michał Górny wrote:
>
> What is the point you're making? If GF decides to kick you from Gentoo,
> will you also claim that it was their legal right?
>
IMO the lesson to be learned here is that we ought to design Gentoo in
such a way that if the GF kicks us all
> On 16 Jun 2021, at 10:13, Michał Górny wrote:
>
> [snip]
The only case not covered by your questions is where an IRC client
might autojoin #gentoo@libera (Smuxi does this with #smuxi) in which
case we want to update it.
> 1. Should we be proactively changing the default network in IRC
On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 11:57 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 11:42 AM Michał Górny wrote:
> >
> > What is the point you're making? If GF decides to kick you from Gentoo,
> > will you also claim that it was their legal right?
> >
>
> IMO the lesson to be learned here is
Hi,
base-system@ has decided to shed some packages which no longer fit within its
remit:
- app-editors/hexcurse
- app-shells/bashdb
- app-shells/rc
- dev-util/autoproject
- dev-util/unifdef
- net-misc/netkit-rsh
- sys-devel/remake
- sys-fs/dmg2img
Most of these packages are in a pretty good
Sam James wrote:
> * Brings IDEPEND, usev enhancements, --disable-static by default, and more!
How to undo that --disable-static ?
I'm asking both for my own ebuilds and as a regular portage user.
//Peter
> On 17 Jun 2021, at 03:28, Peter Stuge wrote:
>
> Sam James wrote:
>> * Brings IDEPEND, usev enhancements, --disable-static by default, and more!
>
> How to undo that --disable-static ?
>
> I'm asking both for my own ebuilds and as a regular portage user.
>
Pass --enable-static to econf
Hi!
EAPI 8 is here! In fact, it arrived a few days ago on Sunday:
1) Council approval of EAPI 8 on Sunday at the regular meeting
2) Swift release of Portage 3.0.20 containing EAPI 8 by Zac shortly thereafter.
Summary:
* mgorny's traditional summary is already out and can be found on his website
This defines the native install-time libcap dependency as:
- EAPI < 7: RDEPEND
Only regular ROOT=/ builds can be expected to work.
- EAPI = 7: RDEPEND + BDEPEND
Also install the native setcap at built time, so cross-
compiling will work, but not installing binpkgs in
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 7:28 PM Peter Stuge wrote:
>
> Sam James wrote:
> > * Brings IDEPEND, usev enhancements, --disable-static by default, and more!
>
> How to undo that --disable-static ?
You add --enable-static to econf's arguments.
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