Re: [gentoo-dev] Understanding the LINGUAS variable and use-expand

2012-02-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > On K, 2012-02-08 at 11:32 -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> I am considering simplifying www-client/chromium from the current mess >> based on the linguas USE flags to basically just this: >> >> if [[ ${LINGUAS} ]]; t

Re: [gentoo-dev] preserve_old_lib and I'm even more lazy

2012-02-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> Am I the only paranoid person who moves them rather than unlinking >> them?  Oh, if only btrfs were stable... > > Is this a reference to snapshots? You can use ZFS for those. The > kernel modules are only available in the form of ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools

2012-02-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > If not, once the dependencies are correct, I propose > dropping virtual/modutils from the system set. If we drop it from the system set, the kernel modules section of the handbook should be updated.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools

2012-02-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > As such, I disagree with floppym that the handbook's kernel module > section needs updating for this, too.  The handbook doesn't even deal > with non-default dev-managers, nor does it mention module-init-tools, it > just assume

[gentoo-dev] Add gnu-alpha to thirdpartymirrors

2012-02-28 Thread Mike Gilbert
Any objections to adding "gnu-alpha" to thirdpartymirrors? See the mirrors marked as (alpha) here: http://www.gnu.org/prep/ftp.html I'm prepping an ebuild for grub-2.00_beta0, which would use the new mirror.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-python] New eclass for Python

2012-02-28 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Krzysztof Pawlik wrote: > Hello, > > After some work during weekend on Python packages I've decided to start a > rewrite of Python/distutils eclass for installing Python packages. My main > goal > was simplicity and functionality similar to ruby-ng.eclass (thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-python] New eclass for Python

2012-02-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Krzysztof Pawlik wrote: > On 29/02/12 09:11, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 22:13, Krzysztof Pawlik wrote: >>> If there are no objections then during the weekend (March 3, 4) I will add >>> this >>> to portage (after finishing remaining TODO i

Re: [gentoo-dev] The end of net-zope

2012-03-01 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:51 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > Tomorrow, March 1, is the deadline for removing almost all of the > Zope/Plone packages from the portage tree (those who still want them > can get them from Arfrever's Progress overlay). > > Since only one or two packages would remain in th

Re: [gentoo-dev] The end of net-zope

2012-03-01 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 19:50, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> Arfrever pinged me to add him to the net-zope herd as a proxy >> maintainer for the remaining zope packages. Are there any objections >> to this? > > What re

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: EAPI specification in ebuilds

2012-03-08 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Again, the proposal comes in two variants: > 2a) It is combined with a one time change of the file extension, like >    .ebuild -> .eb. > 2b) The usual EAPI assignment statement in the ebuild is still >    required, at least for a transition

[gentoo-dev] New eclass proposal: chromium.eclass

2012-03-11 Thread Mike Gilbert
lay/changeset/fbf6de591da7 Please review. # Copyright 1999-2012 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header: $ # @ECLASS: chromium.eclass # @MAINTAINER: # Chromium Herd # @AUTHOR: # Mike Gilbert # @BLURB: Shared functions for chromium and google-ch

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD : .ebuild is only bash

2012-03-12 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: >> On 13 March 2012 10:14, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, James Broadhead wrote: >>> I'm sure that it's been considered already, but what are the arguments ag

Re: Anybody willing to take care of sgml herd? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] media-optical, net-zope, sgml, text-markup herds are empty)

2012-03-18 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Is anyone willing to join the herd? If not, maybe somebody could take a > few packages if they want to take care of only a set of them and not all > the beast :-/ I took a look at the sgml bugs list, and most of them seem pretty straightforwar

[gentoo-dev] Documentation for sys-boot/grub:2

2012-03-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
I believe the only thing keeping GRUB 2 masked is a lack of "documentation". By this, I assume people are referring to the handbook. I have created a very minimal "quick start" guide that could be adapted for the handbook. It relies on the grub2-mkconfig command auto-detecting most things, which a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fix spurious dep to eselect-python

2012-03-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2012-03-20 05:29:20 Luca Barbato napisał(a): >> Hi, I tried to avoid depending on eselect-python if the useflag is disabled. >> >> Please test and review. > > The proper fix is to make python.eclass add dependency on >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fix spurious dep to eselect-python

2012-03-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:57:29 -0300 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:35:17 +0100 >> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: >> >> > 2012-03-20 17:53:56 Michał Górny napisał(a): >> > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:41:39 +0100

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fix spurious dep to eselect-python

2012-03-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:09:55 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Alexis Ballier >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:57:29 -0300 >> > Alexis Ballier wrote: >&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Documentation for sys-boot/grub:2

2012-03-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Talking about which, should I actively pursue bug filing on it yet?  With > gentoo, upstream, or both?  If you're actively wanting those bugs now, > please do put an elog to that effect in the ebuild, and I'll start being > par

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: oasis.eclass for oasis-based ocaml packages.

2012-03-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > DEPEND=">=dev-lang/ocaml-3.12[ocamlopt?]" > DEPEND="${RDEPEND}" That looks like a typo. > oasis_src_compile() { > oasis_src_compile_no_doc > if has doc ${IUSE} && use doc; then > ocaml setup.ml -doc || die >

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: oasis.eclass for oasis-based ocaml packages.

2012-03-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:58:47 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> > oasis_src_compile() { >> >     oasis_src_compile_no_doc >> >     if has doc ${IUSE} && use doc; then >> >             ocaml

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: oasis.eclass for oasis-based ocaml packages.

2012-03-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:50:51 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> use_if_iuse is called from functions in several eclasses already in >> the tree. See chromium, kde4-base, qt4-build, and toolchain. >> >> Are all

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-26 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > I posted this issue here because it's not obvious what to do with it. > That version of pybugz worked for me before (20 February 2012). > > Any ideas? > I'm guessing it was broken by the upgrade from Bugzilla 4.0 to Bugzilla 4.2. I th

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Ian Whyman wrote: > On 27 March 2012 08:33, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 20:44, Alec Warner wrote: Long term, we may want to consider porting pybugz to use Bugzilla's XML-RPC api to avoid such breakage. >>> >>> XML-RPC is shit. >> >

[gentoo-dev] Add USE_PYTHON to profiles/info_vars

2012-04-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
python.eclass looks at the USE_PYTHON variable to determine which python versions to target when building python packages which support installation for multiple python abis. Having it in the emerge --info output would be useful for diagnosing python-related bugs. Any objections?

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: iotop needs to run as root after kernel change

2012-04-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:32 AM, justin wrote: > 2. > suid it (bad in my view) > 3. > file capabilities (can this be done with portage) > iotop is a python script, so these were not really options anyway. Unless you wrote a wrapper in C or something. :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass for Python

2012-04-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Corentin Chary wrote: > I have a package that depends on python-dateutil:python-2 for > python2_x and python-dateutil:python-3 for python3_x. > Would it be possible to have virtual targets like "python, python2, > python3, pypi, jithon" ? > With regards to python-d

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass for Python

2012-04-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Corentin Chary wrote: > I have a feature request for distutil-ng (or maybe it's already > possible but I don't know how). > > I have a package that depends on python-dateutil:python-2 for > python2_x and python-dateutil:python-3 for python3_x. > Would it be possible

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass for Python

2012-04-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Brian Harring wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 10:41:03AM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Corentin Chary >> wrote: >> > I have a feature request for distutil-ng (or maybe it's already >> > possi

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-04-05 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:59 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > Hi all, > > here is a quick update on this: > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 01:20:38PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." >> wrote: >> > I posted this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due mrness retirement

2012-04-06 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 04/06/2012 06:02 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > net-misc/openswan I'll take this; I use it to connect to a Microsoft L2TP server for work. If anyone wants to co-maintain you are welcome to do so. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] pybugz call for testers

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:17 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > Here is the documentation for their search command [1]. It would > probably be better for us to open a bug against bugzilla itself and > request those changes be put in the api. > I did some digging on Bugzilla's Bugzilla. There is already a

Re: [gentoo-dev] pybugz call for testers

2012-04-12 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:55 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 4/10/12 11:17 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:45:14PM +0200, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: >>> On 4/10/12 7:54 PM, William Hubbs wrote: I can name a couple of issues that are api limitations that we can't do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-21 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Steven J Long wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >>> The Council has voted that Gentoo continue to support that subset, >>> without an initramfs. >> > (The "subset of users" being those who do not need udev before localmount.) > >> Citation, please? >> > > New udev and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 04/22/2012 05:28 AM, Steven J Long wrote: > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> | 3. New udev and separate /usr partition (30 minutes) >> | >> |See [4]: "Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported >> |configuration. If it is, newer udev can not be stabled and >> |alternatives sh

Re: profiles/updates/ 'move' lacks support for versioned syntax (was: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: A tiny news item for migrating to libjpeg-turbo)

2012-04-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 04/23/2012 03:28 PM, Duncan wrote: >> >> Samuli Suominen posted on Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:22:53 +0300 as excerpted: >> >>> Title: The default JPEG implementation >> >> >> [...] >> >>> All users are recommended to migrate: >>> >>> # emerge -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: A tiny news item for migrating to libjpeg-turbo

2012-04-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Samuli Suominen posted on Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:22:53 +0300 as excerpted: > >> Title: The default JPEG implementation > > [...] > >> All users are recommended to migrate: >> >> # emerge -C media-libs/jpeg:0 >> # emerge -1 media-l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 30 April 2012 12:32:35 Matt Turner wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > On Monday 30 April 2012 12:00:59 Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> doing it wrong.  I don't like how Google develops Android in the d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/default/bsd: ChangeLog profile.bashrc

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > Oops, something went wrong here. Please fix your terminal/editor encoding to > unicode. > I have two questions: 1. Was this a repoman or echangelog generated entry? 2. If so, do these tools need to be fixed to always generate UTF-8?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/default/bsd: ChangeLog profile.bashrc

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 02 May 2012 14:04:57 Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> > Oops, something went wrong here. Please fix your terminal/editor encoding >> > to unicode.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 04/05/12 01:37, Alec Warner wrote: >> I would argue that the Chrome Team's idea of what a 'WEB BROWSER' is >> and your idea of what a 'WEB BROWSER' is are vastly divergent. That is >> totally OK and you are free to use whatever software you

Re: [gentoo-dev] cmake-utils.eclass: set default of CMAKE_VERBOSE=1

2012-05-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:29 PM, hasufell wrote: > On 05/04/2012 08:00 PM, Johannes Huber wrote: >> Am Freitag, 4. Mai 2012, 18:30:10 schrieb hasufell: >>> # @ECLASS-VARIABLE: CMAKE_VERBOSE # @DESCRIPTION: # Set to enable >>> verbose messages during compilation. >>> >>> By default this is deactivat

Re: [gentoo-dev] cmake-utils.eclass: set default of CMAKE_VERBOSE=1

2012-05-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Johannes Huber wrote: > Am Freitag, 4. Mai 2012, 14:41:42 schrieb Mike Gilbert: >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:29 PM, hasufell wrote: >> > On 05/04/2012 08:00 PM, Johannes Huber wrote: >> >> Am Freitag, 4. Mai 2012, 18:30:10 schr

[gentoo-dev] Adding PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 to base profile

2012-05-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
To make ebuilds utilizing python-distutils-ng.eclass usable "out-of-the-box", the python team would like to add the following to make.defaults in the base profile. PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" See also bug 415575 [1]. Any objections? I would also like to include python3_2, but I do not think this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 to base profile

2012-05-14 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 5/14/2012 12:50 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 14 May 2012 04:27, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> To make ebuilds utilizing python-distutils-ng.eclass usable >> "out-of-the-box", the python team would like to add the following to >> make.defaults in the base profile.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 to base profile

2012-05-14 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 5/14/2012 11:17 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Would be too difficult to finally fix ebuilds to properly convet > shebangs and so and then, be able to have a proper system even when > python3 is main interpreter? Yeah, python_convert_shebangs is an easy fix for most cases. > Personally, I run with i

[gentoo-dev] Re: Adding PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 to base profile

2012-05-14 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 5/13/2012 4:27 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > To make ebuilds utilizing python-distutils-ng.eclass usable > "out-of-the-box", the python team would like to add the following to > make.defaults in the base profile. > > PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" > > See

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: enhancement for doicon/newicon in eutils.eclass

2012-05-21 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:30 AM, hasufell wrote: > On 05/21/2012 02:01 AM, Jonathan Callen wrote: >> On 05/20/2012 07:49 PM, hasufell wrote: >>> On 05/21/2012 01:36 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Mon, 21 May 2012 01:24:13 +0200 hasufell wrote: > I want support for installing icon

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Enable FEATURES="userpriv usersandbox" by default?

2012-05-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > How about introducing e.g. FEATURES="nouserpriv", and make the current > userpriv behavior the default? > Portage currently defaults to running the build process as root. The entire point of this thread is that Zac wants to change the def

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] games.eclass: allow EAPI=4

2012-05-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:36 PM, hasufell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/29/2012 09:00 PM, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: >> Nice to drop '|| die' and have REQUIRED_USE in games ebuilds >> >> OK to push? >> >> Thanks! >> > > +1 for bumping > > but is this known to no

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: enewuser should force updates to shell and home

2012-06-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 6/13/2012 12:00 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > Hey all - I'd like to propose that enewuser forces updates to a user's > home dir and shell whenever it is called, so that if this changes with > new versions of an ebuild it is dealt with automatically rather than > having to modify them in pkg_post

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: enewuser should force updates to shell and home

2012-06-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 6/13/2012 2:32 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 13/06/12 02:09 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: >> On 13-06-2012 12:00:16 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >>> Hey all - I'd like to propose that enewuser forces updates to a >>> user's home dir and shell whenever it is called, so that if this >>> changes w

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: esethome

2012-06-15 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Fabian Groffen wrote: >> > > >>> +       if [[ ! -n $(egetent passwd "${euser}") ]] ; then >> > > >> >> > > >> "! -n" -> "-z" >> > > > >> > > > Does the $() argument ever need to be double quoted, or do all >> > > > versions of bash actually h

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild laziness and binpkg overhead

2012-06-19 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 19 June 2012 17:35:00 Jeroen Roovers wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:02:40 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > i've noticed a growing trend where people put setup of variables into >> > pkg_setup that only matter to src_* funcs pre

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots

2012-06-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > There's been a move towards using slots for "clever" things that don't > fit the traditional way of how slots worked. Examples include the new > gtk2 / gtk3 handling and Ruby gems virtuals. > > Aside from being abusive, this screws things u

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots

2012-06-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Ciaran McCreesh > wrote: >> There's been a move towards using slots for "clever" things that don't >> fit the traditional way of how slots worked. Examples include th

[gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly after it hits the tree. I don't do much work on base system packages, so I would like some advice on how to make this as smooth as possible. My main concern is that many people p

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > Since Grub Legacy and Grub 2 are slotted, Portage won't remove the > older version. Even if it removes the older one, everything necessary > is installed into /boot and the MBR already. Portage will remove the older slot the next time the

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:15:59 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would >> like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly after it hits the >> tree. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: grub:2 keywords

2012-06-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Mike Gilbert posted on Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:56:25 -0400 as excerpted: > >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Doug Goldstein >> wrote: >>> Since Grub Legacy and Grub 2 are slotted, Portage w

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-28 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 25 June 2012 00:15:59 Mike Gilbert wrote: >> An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would >> like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly after it hits the tree. >> I don't d

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 29 June 2012 01:59:37 Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > On Monday 25 June 2012 00:15:59 Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >> An official release of grub-2.00 s

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> As far as I can tell, grub:0 only half-way updates itself; there is a >> large ewarn telling the user that they must take action to install the >> new version in

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> It does copy all of the images to /boot so that the grub shell can be >> used to install an MBR image. grub:2 no longer has an interactive >> shell and grub2

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> GRUB2 does away with the conventional stage files. It also wants a >> special BIOS Boot Partition in order to function. That is where it >> stores the equivalent of the stage2 bootcode. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> 3. grub2-install calls grub2-bios-setup which installs boot.img into >> the MBR and embeds core.img into the sectors immediately after the >> MBR. > > Ok,

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > On 06/29/2012 03:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >>>> GRUB2 does away with the conventional stage files

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-07-02 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:15:23 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Gilbert >> wrote: >> > 3. grub2-install calls grub2-bios-setup which installs boot.img into >> &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] base.eclass

2012-07-08 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:49:25 +0200 > René Neumann wrote: >> I'd like just to receive a short clarification about the 'status' of >> base.eclass: Is this eclass expected to be available everywhere, i.e. >> should each eclass make sure it imp

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Michał Górny schrieb: >> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:23:39 +0200 >> Thomas Sachau wrote: >> >>> Michał Górny schrieb: Hello, all. Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we start having two libudev providers: >=sys-apps

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:54 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 03:27:41PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> Just to put a number to this, there are currently 126 packages in the >> tree with a dependency on sys-fs/udev. >> >> Personally, I think a consolida

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > Please don't hardcode the path like this, use pkg-config instead: > > inherit toolchain-funcs > > dir="$($(tc-getPKG_CONFIG) --variable=udevdir udev)/rules.d" > Heh, I didn't realize udev installed a pkg-config file for that. Nice.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-19 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 07/19/2012 06:14 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: >> Could be that Portage re-exports a sanitized >> LINGUAS tough, but I doubt it. > > Portage does sanitize it if there are any linguas_* flags in IUSE, > otherwise it lets the variable pass throug

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-19 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > Today I would like to present to you my proposal for a new eclass with > helper functions for treating localizations: l10n.eclass (see the > attached file or [1]). Its functionality can be used in other eclasses > (such as qt4-r2 and cmake-uti

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:34:41 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Zac Medico >> wrote: >> > On 07/19/2012 06:14 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: >> >> Could be that Portage re-

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:39:21 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Ciaran McCreesh >> wrote: >> > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:34:41 -0400 >> > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:34:41 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Zac Medico >> wrote: >> > On 07/19/2012 06:14 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: >> >> Could be that Portage re-

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:55:46 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Ciaran McCreesh >> wrote: >> > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:34:41 -0400 >> > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-01 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > We're ignoring a very basic question here... what problems does > shipping with a POSIX locale cause that would be fixed by setting a UTF8 > default locale??? I want a real answer. Not something along the lines > of "But daddy, all the other k

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-02 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 01/08/2012 23:42, Fabian Groffen wrote: >> Honestly, if some asian person has whatever charset that I often find in >> spam messages, but is not UTF-8, are you then going to tell that person >> to switch to UTF-8 to get those python pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-12 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > I think that people get this confused because 99% of linux users have > an initramfs (and about 2% of Gentoo users it seems), and most > initramfs implementations DO interpret the root=parameter. If you > specify an initramfs then the kernel

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 11:14 -0700, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: >> Beside the fact that these would probably have looked better in >> /usr/libexec > > See Kay Sievers's comment at > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51617 : > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] boost-utils.eclass -- for building against newest boost.

2012-08-28 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:26:02 +0200 > Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > >> 2012-08-28 00:19:28 Michał Górny napisał(a): >> > --- /dev/null >> > +++ b/gx86/eclass/boost-utils.eclass >> > @@ -0,0 +1,43 @@ >> > +# Copyright 1999-2012 G

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: prune_libtool_files() and pkg-config dependency

2012-08-31 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Thus, not adding it to @system in no way means it's not considered > mandatory for a normal install, it just means the ultimate goal is to > have all the deps specified and nothing left in @system, and while > progress isn't fa

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI usage

2012-09-05 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/04/2012 05:06 PM, Brian Harring wrote: >>> >>> As a compromise, it could be made policy that "bump to EAPI=foo" bugs >>> are valid. If someone would benefit from such a bump, he can file a bug >>> and know that it won't be closed WONT

Re: [gentoo-dev] bzr.eclass changes, please review

2012-09-14 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > I didn't mean to pick on bzr.eclass, I think it's always wrong to do > this. And you picked out the exact reasoning I did "I'm not sure if it > would be worth the effort to compute a more accurate argument for > addwrite." I thin

Re: [gentoo-dev] DESCRIPTION="Based on the ${ECLASS} eclass"

2012-09-14 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > So just so we are clear, everyone but me thinks that DESCRIPTION="Based > on the ${ECLASS} eclass" is a completely useful and critically required > piece of code? > I don't think anyone really cares, and it doesn't seem like anyon

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-09-26 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn > wrote: >> Michael Mol schrieb: >>> A few months ago, I filed bug 423651 to ask that bzip2 on the install >>> media be replaced with >>> pbzip2. >> >> If I understand correctly, p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Let's populate IUSE_IMPLICIT in the base profile

2012-09-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Zac Medico wrote: > Hi, > > The council has approved [1] "Profile IUSE injection" [2] for inclusion > in EAPI 5, and in latest Portage we have experimental EAPI 5_pre2 [3] > which implements all of the approved features. So, now would be a good > time to start popu

Re: [gentoo-dev] making USE=upnp a global flag

2012-09-30 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > Le mercredi 19 septembre 2012 à 10:19 +0200, Michał Górny a écrit : >> >> Just to make it clear: >> - USE=upnp for upnp-igd or nat-pmp, >> - USE=dlna for the video magic and so on. >> >> Do I understand correctly? > > No, TV makers a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: removing "server" profile variants from profiles.desc

2012-10-12 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> +1. I want these profiles to *staty*. I am using this profile on my >> "home boxes". It is the most minimal profile as the rest of the >> profiles pull in too much useless stuff. What

[gentoo-dev] Re: reworking python-wrapper and wrapper scripts.

2012-10-18 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Brian Harring wrote: > If folks haven't looked at python_generate_wrapper_scripts in > python.eclass, I'd suggest doing so. For examples of it's usage, grep > for 'python_generate_wrapper_scripts' in /usr/bin/; any place you see > it, look for -${PYTHON_TARGETS} (

[gentoo-dev] Re: reworking python-wrapper and wrapper scripts.

2012-10-18 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Brian Harring wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:28:59AM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> Regarding your /usr/bin/python3.2 /usr/bin/sphinx-build example: >> invoking python on a binary (or a symlink to a binary) isn't going to >> work

[gentoo-dev] Re: reworking python-wrapper and wrapper scripts.

2012-10-18 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Brian Harring wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:28:59AM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> Regarding your /usr/bin/python3.2 /usr/bin/sphinx-build example: >>> invoking python on

[gentoo-dev] Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-10-28 Thread Mike Gilbert
currently being maintained by proxy by a former Gentoo developer, Arfrever. Given this package's potential to cause problems, this situation is not ideal. It would be really great if an active Gentoo developer would step forward and take care of this one. -- Mike Gilbert signatur

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] A news item covering PYTHON_TARGETS

2012-10-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > Since some ebuilds are using that variable already and we still didn't > inform most of our users if and how they should set it, I'd like to > commit the following news item: > > Title: PYTHON_TARGETS deployment > Author: Michał Gó

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-10-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Christoph Junghans wrote: > 2012/10/29 Diego Elio Pettenò : >> On 29/10/2012 10:37, Christoph Junghans wrote: >>> If Arfrever keeps maintaining it for a while, I will take it. >> >> Do remember that whatever you commit, _You_ take responsibility for it. >> After a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] Check for USE_PYTHON <-> PYTHON_TARGETS equiv.

2012-11-05 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > --- > gx86/eclass/python-r1.eclass | 66 > > 1 file changed, 66 insertions(+) > > diff --git a/gx86/eclass/python-r1.eclass b/gx86/eclass/python-r1.eclass > index 0d6ef4c..6d4eb33 100644 > --- a/gx

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] Check for USE_PYTHON <-> PYTHON_TARGETS equiv.

2012-11-05 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:22:22 -0500 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >> > --- >> > gx86/eclass/python-r1.eclass | 66 >> > +++

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Check for USE_PYTHON <-> PYTHON_TARGETS equiv.

2012-11-05 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Brian Harring wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 01:15:45PM +0100, Micha?? G??rny wrote: >> And in case anyone wondered, the output looks like this: >> >> * PYTHON_TARGETS <-> USE_PYTHON inconsistency found. This may result >> * in missing modules when trying to use

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Check for USE_PYTHON <-> PYTHON_TARGETS equiv.

2012-11-05 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Brian Harring wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 05:50:24PM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Brian Harring wrote: >> > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 01:15:45PM +0100, Micha?? G??rny wrote: >> >> And in case any

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