Re: [gentoo-dev] Trivial commit reviews
Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: Over time, the number of these simple reviews should go dramatically down so it no longer bothers anyone to see them. If it doesn't, that means some of our developers aren't learning or paying attention, and we should take a closer look at whether they should remain developers. My concern is that if we flood -dev with trivial commit problems then more people will stop watching -dev and/or resort to killfiles or other filtering. While I do agree with Donnies assessment, my concern is that over a longer time period, it might have a negative effect. I totally agree with Donnie here. Please keep up the work, everybody should be encouraged to fix these (trivial) problems. I sincerly hope that these message will not have to continue for long. But as long as they do, they serve as a big reminder in your inbox of what is wrong. Just my 0.02$ -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (key 4849EC6C) pgpSepMsMY6j8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Trivial commit reviews
Matti Bickel wrote: I totally agree with Donnie here. Please keep up the work, everybody should be encouraged to fix these (trivial) problems. I sincerly hope that these message will not have to continue for long. But as long as they do, they serve as a big reminder in your inbox of what is wrong. +1, I've already learned or re-learned some very useful stuff. /me will keep reading those ebuild reviews. Rémi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Trivial commit reviews
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Mike Doty (KingTaco) just told me I could stop sending reviews to -dev that are just about adding quotes or other trivial issues that come up over and over. I'm going to tell you why it's still a good thing. First, where one problem lurks, others often do too. In code with such simple problems, it's likely that more complex problems also exist. Getting more eyes on problematic code of any sort can help find them. Second, as we've already seen, no one developer is familiar with all the code. Both Mike Frysinger and Daniel Drake have responded to some of my reviews, pointing out further problems with the same code. Third, by continuing to post these reviews, it should become obvious to _all_ developers that they should be checking for them _before_ committing instead of waiting for a review. Over time, the number of these simple reviews should go dramatically down so it no longer bothers anyone to see them. If it doesn't, that means some of our developers aren't learning or paying attention, and we should take a closer look at whether they should remain developers. Thanks, Donnie My concern is that if we flood -dev with trivial commit problems then more people will stop watching -dev and/or resort to killfiles or other filtering. While I do agree with Donnies assessment, my concern is that over a longer time period, it might have a negative effect. -- === Mike Doty kingtaco -at- gentoo.org Gentoo Infrastructure Gentoo/AMD64 Strategic Lead GPG: E1A5 1C9C 93FE F430 C1D6 F2AF 806B A2E4 19F4 AE05 === -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Trivial commit reviews
i am all for the 'trivial' review. as i am not on the commit list, however, i can't tell whether this acutally helps. do people fix the stuff that is pointed out to them? also, perhaps the more common ones should additionally be converted to repoman tests, if that is feasable. kind regards Thilo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Trivial commit reviews
On 06:22 Mon 24 Sep , Thilo Bangert wrote: do people fix the stuff that is pointed out to them? Yep, I've seen a lot of fixes for reviews. also, perhaps the more common ones should additionally be converted to repoman tests, if that is feasable. That might be reasonable for some cases, but it won't be perfect, and won't even be possible for many. So far, the only one I've seen that might work well for is quoting around specific variables. You could do something like a grep for words containing '${+D[^[:alnum:]-_]' (haven't tested that, just beginnings of an idea) and the same for S and WORKDIR. Thanks, Donnie -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list