Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Staffing Needs page is out of date
Hans de Graaff: > On Sun, 2016-12-11 at 17:17 +, Gokturk Yuksek wrote: >> >> r...@gentoo.org >> >> Ruby core package maintainer: >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Ruby_core_ >> package_maintainer >> >> Ruby package maintainer: >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Ruby_packa >> ge_maintainer > > I don't recall seeing this email. Are you sure it was sent? > From: Gokturk YuksekTo: r...@gentoo.org Cc: ment...@gentoo.org Message-ID: <187054b4-488b-9065-d332-f6a4e0cc2...@gentoo.org> Subject: Staffing Needs > In any case both positions are still valid and open. > I'll revert it. Sorry for the trouble. > Hans > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Staffing Needs page is out of date
On Sun, 2016-12-11 at 17:17 +, Gokturk Yuksek wrote: > > r...@gentoo.org > > Ruby core package maintainer: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Ruby_core_ > package_maintainer > > Ruby package maintainer: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Ruby_packa > ge_maintainer I don't recall seeing this email. Are you sure it was sent? In any case both positions are still valid and open. Hans signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Staffing Needs page is out of date
Gokturk Yuksek: > Hi all, > > The Staffing Needs page on the wiki [0] seems a little out of date, > there are still mentions of "herds". I invite project leads and > members to update it. We added a reference to it in the Mentors wiki > page [1] and hoping to get more attention to it. > > Thanks, > > [0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Mentors > The following listings have now been removed due to no response to individual emails to the project aliases after a week: g...@gentoo.org GMN Editor/Author: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Gentoo_Monthly_Newsletters j...@gentoo.org Glassfish package maintainer: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Glassfish_package_maintainer JBoss package maintainer: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/JBoss_package_maintainer Java package maintainer: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Java_package_maintainer Jetty package maintainer: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Jetty_package_maintainer Maven package maintainer and portage integrator: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Maven_package_maintainer Tomcat package maintainer: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Tomcat_package_maintainer p...@gentoo.org Perl package maintainer: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Perl_package_maintainer q...@gentoo.org Qt Developer: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Qt_Developer Qt Documentation Editor: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Qt_Documentation_Editor Qt Proxy Maintainer: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Qt_Proxy_Maintainer r...@gentoo.org Ruby core package maintainer: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Ruby_core_package_maintainer Ruby package maintainer: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Ruby_package_maintainer vmw...@gentoo.org VMWare Team Member/Team Lead: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Vmware_developer am...@gentoo.org AMD64 Arch Testers: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/AMD64_Arch_Testers x...@gentoo.org x86 Arch Tester: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/x86_Arch_Tester x86 Team Member: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/x86_Team_Member -- gokturk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Staffing Needs page is out of date
IMHO likely off topic for -dev and proper place would be -project as it is not technical in nature. On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:28:36 PM EST Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, T, 29.11.2016 kell 19:31, kirjutas Gokturk Yuksek: > > > > This isn't even an official GMN project at the moment, there is no > > information who is in charge and it's misleading people. > > That's because there is no-one to do it That can be said for many things... WAY to many things... > , but it would be nice if > someone did. So a staffing need. But yes, there should be someone to > contact for it then; maybe PR should consider adding a new staffing > need for that under their umbrella or something. So many projects, so much bureaucracy, many on multiple projects/teams wearing multiple hats. How do they have time for them all? IMHO it is better to find someone else to be part of another team, than to wear multiple hats. In most organizations you get 1 title, belong to 1 team, or department. I have a feeling Gentoo has more projects than developers or staff. Focus needs to be on increasing numbers, not putting out staffing needs which likely will not be filled. Along those lines would be interesting to see how many staffing needs were met via putting out some sort of staffing needs information. People need a reason over all to contribute to and join Gentoo. Putting out staffing needs does little to motivate anyone to get involved. -- William L. Thomson Jr. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Staffing Needs page is out of date
Ühel kenal päeval, T, 29.11.2016 kell 19:31, kirjutas Gokturk Yuksek: > Mart Raudsepp: > > > > Ühel kenal päeval, E, 28.11.2016 kell 17:45, kirjutas Gokturk > > Yuksek: > > > > > > On 11/23/2016 12:31 AM, Gokturk Yuksek wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > The Staffing Needs page on the wiki [0] seems a little out of > > > > date, there are still mentions of "herds". I invite project > > > > leads and members to update it. We added a reference to it in > > > > the Mentors wiki page [1] and hoping to get more attention to > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > [0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs > > > > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Mentors > > > > > > > > > > Given the inactivity on the page since the submission of this > > > post, I'll clear the page entirely in two days. It's better to > > > have no information than a misleading one. Please remember to > > > update the page with your staffing needs after the cleanup. > > > > This is not some page that is just there and edited as-is. It is > > generated from {{Staffing Needs}} macros placed into project pages > > and seems like individual subpages when > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Projec > > t:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Maintenance is used instead. Therefore I > > doubt you can just go and clear things on that page alone, nor does > > it mean you should clean everything without contacting the project, > > especially those that actually have it on their project page (so > > relatively knowingly placed there recently). > > > > I thought about the same thing at first. A more careful look at the > URL shows that this is not the case: > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/ProxyMaint > ain > er > > The {{Staffing Need}} macro page lives under "Gentoo" in project > namespace, not under "Proxy Maintainers". As a matter of fact, the > link has a typo where it's missing an 's' at the end. I guess that template then just gives an additional staffing need table to the project page when used and not synced if you say so. Would be nice to have this automated in the way I thought it already was. This ensures that there is a project page that advertises the staffing need and with that a contact in the detailed page. > I'd like to bring it to attention that there had been no activity on > the page in a week. We should at least clear some obvious ones like > this > : > > -- > GMN Editor/Author > We are looking for developers or users interested in helping us out > with the Gentoo Monthly Newsletters. > -- > > This isn't even an official GMN project at the moment, there is no > information who is in charge and it's misleading people. That's because there is no-one to do it, but it would be nice if someone did. So a staffing need. But yes, there should be someone to contact for it then; maybe PR should consider adding a new staffing need for that under their umbrella or something. > I'll try to contact individual projects as much as I can. Sounds good. Mart
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Staffing Needs page is out of date
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Mart Raudsepp: > Ühel kenal päeval, E, 28.11.2016 kell 17:45, kirjutas Gokturk > Yuksek: >> On 11/23/2016 12:31 AM, Gokturk Yuksek wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> The Staffing Needs page on the wiki [0] seems a little out of >>> date, there are still mentions of "herds". I invite project >>> leads and members to update it. We added a reference to it in >>> the Mentors wiki page [1] and hoping to get more attention to >>> it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> [0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs >>> [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Mentors >>> >> >> Given the inactivity on the page since the submission of this >> post, I'll clear the page entirely in two days. It's better to >> have no information than a misleading one. Please remember to >> update the page with your staffing needs after the cleanup. > > This is not some page that is just there and edited as-is. It is > generated from {{Staffing Needs}} macros placed into project pages > and seems like individual subpages when > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Projec > t:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Maintenance is used instead. Therefore I > doubt you can just go and clear things on that page alone, nor does > it mean you should clean everything without contacting the project, > especially those that actually have it on their project page (so > relatively knowingly placed there recently). > I thought about the same thing at first. A more careful look at the URL shows that this is not the case: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/ProxyMaintain er The {{Staffing Need}} macro page lives under "Gentoo" in project namespace, not under "Proxy Maintainers". As a matter of fact, the link has a typo where it's missing an 's' at the end. I'd like to bring it to attention that there had been no activity on the page in a week. We should at least clear some obvious ones like this : - -- GMN Editor/Author We are looking for developers or users interested in helping us out with the Gentoo Monthly Newsletters. - -- This isn't even an official GMN project at the moment, there is no information who is in charge and it's misleading people. I'll try to contact individual projects as much as I can. > > Mart > - -- gokturk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJYPdekAAoJEIT4AuXAiM4zBUUH/3/NEOyoOWaBLlWKhEbl+Czx 3doaaVEuaEUoNAibgyo+dLq2VJ7AznEKOljpmx3fDN1+iZ5ARCfShjIAFRH2T5kK xPM6MaJFlRvFfUl3ssG1fn4Z2Ew/sQZzlVhb4+82mFngJHed4NYxuhbAQOp/sco3 G8ZgVmeKsGXPHNMCUWP9C26uTYdx7Z5m5TCjEiNhX7MHOZeiZ1TUkkQkKsd5kHoA icQ1syk/wlZK6t46S66XqGlx0HTSqB0YsPrhEfUSW28/NGjoQZ2zECDyydWjRgy8 vJE7w3GSU5NsikNrS7uOzJhmdmjYoBAQk0BK68lHT8y6Uvfd9GcNxoreVqHxuBo= =mqTc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Staffing Needs page is out of date
Ühel kenal päeval, E, 28.11.2016 kell 17:45, kirjutas Gokturk Yuksek: > On 11/23/2016 12:31 AM, Gokturk Yuksek wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > The Staffing Needs page on the wiki [0] seems a little out of > > date, there are still mentions of "herds". I invite project leads > > and members to update it. We added a reference to it in the Mentors > > wiki page [1] and hoping to get more attention to it. > > > > Thanks, > > > > [0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs [1] > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Mentors > > > > Given the inactivity on the page since the submission of this post, > I'll clear the page entirely in two days. It's better to have no > information than a misleading one. Please remember to update the page > with your staffing needs after the cleanup. This is not some page that is just there and edited as-is. It is generated from {{Staffing Needs}} macros placed into project pages and seems like individual subpages when https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Projec t:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Maintenance is used instead. Therefore I doubt you can just go and clear things on that page alone, nor does it mean you should clean everything without contacting the project, especially those that actually have it on their project page (so relatively knowingly placed there recently). Mart
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Staffing Needs page is out of date
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Gokturk Yuksekwrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 11/23/2016 12:31 AM, Gokturk Yuksek wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> The Staffing Needs page on the wiki [0] seems a little out of >> date, there are still mentions of "herds". I invite project leads >> and members to update it. We added a reference to it in the Mentors >> wiki page [1] and hoping to get more attention to it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> [0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs [1] >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Mentors >> > > Given the inactivity on the page since the submission of this post, > I'll clear the page entirely in two days. It's better to have no > information than a misleading one. Please remember to update the page > with your staffing needs after the cleanup. > > Thanks, > Thanks! > - -- > gokturk > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJYPLNjAAoJEIT4AuXAiM4zpDAH+wdvnDtsApe0eJ2rZ+um5Hhy > +YdkxVmd4c2jmvSqBKQL4zC3EHX5vWU5agQ+cTPi4vzb2OvVvodiRYgczwC+8s6W > neXJ1T2VQ82woZ2pi97Vcu8DNdxJJcXAtCufpAEIj94OH10yPPnLazZS5I0SJXh+ > LVVgcfbLPIKJxuJoqJlyLqzc1PD7A6ZQ4Z6Hlvdj9xZs0DL4MeK7p+YrqBEG9DBX > ciKkPzu2i8Kv+dzOfJOW6KlGmlfShtH61Z4ApKJSDB4K2wGifoQ5bfUzm109t9UR > lfN14BOS0uA0eVIf5EmqY+b4rganZUkyYfyvRIjXmclaV5NkN++YkwW+fixe9K0= > =2/+R > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- アリス フェッラッシィ Alice Ferrazzi Gentoo, If it moves, compile it! My_overlay: https://github.com/aliceinwire/overlay Gentoo Euscan: http://goo.gl/YNbU3h Mail: Alice Ferrazzi PGP: 2E4E 0856 461C 0585 1336 F496 5621 A6B2 8638 781A
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Staffing Needs page is out of date
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/23/2016 12:31 AM, Gokturk Yuksek wrote: > Hi all, > > The Staffing Needs page on the wiki [0] seems a little out of > date, there are still mentions of "herds". I invite project leads > and members to update it. We added a reference to it in the Mentors > wiki page [1] and hoping to get more attention to it. > > Thanks, > > [0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs [1] > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Mentors > Given the inactivity on the page since the submission of this post, I'll clear the page entirely in two days. It's better to have no information than a misleading one. Please remember to update the page with your staffing needs after the cleanup. Thanks, - -- gokturk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJYPLNjAAoJEIT4AuXAiM4zpDAH+wdvnDtsApe0eJ2rZ+um5Hhy +YdkxVmd4c2jmvSqBKQL4zC3EHX5vWU5agQ+cTPi4vzb2OvVvodiRYgczwC+8s6W neXJ1T2VQ82woZ2pi97Vcu8DNdxJJcXAtCufpAEIj94OH10yPPnLazZS5I0SJXh+ LVVgcfbLPIKJxuJoqJlyLqzc1PD7A6ZQ4Z6Hlvdj9xZs0DL4MeK7p+YrqBEG9DBX ciKkPzu2i8Kv+dzOfJOW6KlGmlfShtH61Z4ApKJSDB4K2wGifoQ5bfUzm109t9UR lfN14BOS0uA0eVIf5EmqY+b4rganZUkyYfyvRIjXmclaV5NkN++YkwW+fixe9K0= =2/+R -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Staffing Needs page is out of date
On 23/11/16 05:31, Gokturk Yuksek wrote: > Hi all, > > The Staffing Needs page on the wiki [0] seems a little out of date, > there are still mentions of "herds". I invite project leads and > members to update it. We added a reference to it in the Mentors wiki > page [1] and hoping to get more attention to it. > > Thanks, > > [0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Mentors > +1 for GLEP67 gotchas! :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature