Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-21 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Sunday 21 May 2006 05:44, Brian Harring wrote: So... where's the standard? :) Right, no doc yet that's official, thus at this juncture, what's there now (portage) is the effective standard. Said in the last thread, chunking out a formal EAPI=0 definition from the tree/portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have not read this carefully. There is a lot to work through. At first reading, I like it a lot. Regards, Ferris - -- Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer, Gentoo Linux (Devrel, Sparc) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Dan Meltzer
A secondary package manager is a package manager that instead of directly aiming at replacing portage as primary package manager. What does it do instead? The first restriction is that no packages in the tree must rely on the secondary package manager. While packages may provide a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Thomas Cort
On Sat, 20 May 2006 14:54:18 +0200 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Primary Package Manager* There is one primary package manager. Gentoo has always been about choice, could you explain what is the rationale behind having only one primary package manager? All ebuilds in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Stephen Bennett
I agree with the basic intent here, but remain unconvinced that this is the best way to solve the problems at hand. See below for comments on particular parts, and for what I believe could be a more elegant solution. It's not a complete proposal and will be rather rough around the edges, being

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Saturday 20 May 2006 15:47, Dan Meltzer wrote: A secondary package manager is a package manager that instead of directly aiming at replacing portage as primary package manager. What does it do instead? I've just committed a new revision, but it cooperates. A slip up on my part. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Saturday 20 May 2006 11:51, Thomas Cort wrote: On Sat, 20 May 2006 14:54:18 +0200 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Primary Package Manager* There is one primary package manager. Gentoo has always been about choice, could you explain what is the rationale behind having

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Alec Warner
Paul de Vrieze wrote: The promissed glep on package manager requirements. Please comment on it. There are some parts that may be controversial (portage has in the past not provided support for reverting to stable either), but please keep the discussion on topic. Paul s/primary/official/g

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 20 May 2006 15:41:37 +0100 Stephen Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The primary package manager is the package manager that sets the standards for the tree. All ebuilds in the tree must function with the primary package manager. As the primary package manager sets the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Saturday 20 May 2006 19:45, Marius Mauch wrote: On Sat, 20 May 2006 15:41:37 +0100 Stephen Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The primary package manager is the package manager that sets the standards for the tree. All ebuilds in the tree must function with the primary

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Saturday 20 May 2006 18:00, Alec Warner wrote: Paul de Vrieze wrote: The promissed glep on package manager requirements. Please comment on it. There are some parts that may be controversial (portage has in the past not provided support for reverting to stable either), but please keep the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Thomas Cort
On Sat, 20 May 2006 17:11:57 +0200 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The primary package manager is maintained on official gentoo infrastructure, under control of gentoo developers. I don't really see this as a requirement. Many Linux distributions use package managers that they

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Georgi Georgiev
Just two points: - standards should not be set by the primary package manager - the primary package manager does not have to be developed by Gentoo. More about it below: maillog: 20/05/2006-14:54:18(+0200): Paul de Vrieze types The primary package manager is the package manager that sets the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 12:10:40PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: Just two points: - standards should not be set by the primary package manager - the primary package manager does not have to be developed by Gentoo. More about it below: maillog: 20/05/2006-14:54:18(+0200): Paul de Vrieze