Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-26 Thread lxnay
So, :: vs @ apart, is it something that is worth looking and implementing in future EAPIs? -- Fabio Erculiani signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-26 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:13:51 +0200 (CEST) lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: So, :: vs @ apart, is it something that is worth looking and implementing in future EAPIs? Isn't it just a user issue, not one we want used anywhere where EAPI rules are in effect? -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-26 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:13:51 +0200 (CEST) lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: So, :: vs @ apart, is it something that is worth looking and implementing in future EAPIs? Isn't it just a user issue, not one we

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-26 Thread Petteri Räty
lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: So, :: vs @ apart, is it something that is worth looking and implementing in future EAPIs? I don't see the main tree referring to other repositories any time soon so this is not a pressing issue. But as said earlier this makes sense for /etc/portage stuff so

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread lxnay
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Tiziano Müller dev-z...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Sonntag, den 24.05.2009, 20:04 +0200 schrieb lx...@sabayonlinux.org: And then it's a pm thing. So the person you want to talk about it is zmedico. And zmedico told me to start discussing here. -- Tiziano Müller

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread Alex Legler
On So, 2009-05-24 at 20:04 +0200, lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: [...] app-admin/equo (sabayon overlay -- Entropy Framework client) supports the postfix @repository to let users force the installation of a package from a specific repository. @ is used by Portage for sets. Paludis has

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread lxnay
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org wrote: On So, 2009-05-24 at 20:04 +0200, lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: [...] app-admin/equo (sabayon overlay -- Entropy Framework client) supports the postfix @repository to let users force the installation of a package from a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread AllenJB
lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org wrote: On So, 2009-05-24 at 20:04 +0200, lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: [...] app-admin/equo (sabayon overlay -- Entropy Framework client) supports the postfix @repository to let users force the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread Dale
AllenJB wrote: As a side note, I think I've read somewhere that it may in the future be possible to specify sets in package.* (which I assume would be done using the @set-name syntax), but can't remember where off-hand. This may have just been a suggestion, but if it ever is implemented, it

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 25 May 2009, lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org wrote: On So, 2009-05-24 at 20:04 +0200, lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: [...] app-admin/equo (sabayon overlay -- Entropy Framework client) supports the postfix @repository

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread Josh Saddler
lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: Adding @overlay atoms/deps postfix support could really make life easier, especially because forcing specific atoms in *DEPEND hoping that these will be always pulled in from the same overlay is not something reliable, as you already know. No. This is a terrible

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread Ben de Groot
Robert Buchholz wrote: # emerge --update lsof @system versus # emerge --update l...@system would have completely different meanings. This is what I would dislike about the '@' character. I'm ok with :: though. I agree the :: looks like the better option here. If we use repo_name as

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 25 May 2009, Ben de Groot wrote: Robert Buchholz wrote: If we use repo_name as the overlay identifier, we must rethink how layman-global.txt is currently handled. Many overlays in there have that file missing, and some have different identifiers than what layman displays as

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 24 May 2009 19:04:08 +0200 (CEST) lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: app-admin/equo (sabayon overlay -- Entropy Framework client) supports the postfix @repository to let users force the installation of a package from a specific repository. @ is used by Portage for sets. Paludis has been

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-24 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:34 PM, lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: Adding @overlay atoms/deps postfix support could really make life easier, especially because forcing specific atoms in *DEPEND hoping that these will be always pulled in from the same overlay is not something reliable, as you

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 24 May 2009 22:50:45 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: Won't this just lead to dependency hell? With horrible dependencies between different overlays? It's primarily a user feature. It's not a good way of solving most inter-repository dependency issues. -- Ciaran

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-24 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2009 22:50:45 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: Won't this just lead to dependency hell? With horrible dependencies between different overlays? It's primarily a user

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-24 Thread Ben de Groot
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2009 22:50:45 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: Won't this just lead to dependency hell? With horrible dependencies between different overlays? It's

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-24 Thread lxnay
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2009 19:04:08 +0200 (CEST) lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: app-admin/equo (sabayon overlay -- Entropy Framework client) supports the postfix @repository to let users force the installation of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-24 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Sonntag, den 24.05.2009, 20:04 +0200 schrieb lx...@sabayonlinux.org: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2009 19:04:08 +0200 (CEST) lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: app-admin/equo (sabayon overlay -- Entropy Framework