Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-03-11 Thread Eldad Zack
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 12:58, Patrick Lauer wrote: Hi all, at FOSDEM we had a nice discussion about languages, translations etc. Having people from the US (wolf31o2) who never have problems and people from Japan (usata) who always have problems with encodings / charsets / ... was quite

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:58:03 +0100 Patrick Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During that discussion we realized that having utf-8 not enabled by default and no utf8 fonts available by default causes lots of recompilation and reconfiguration. Enabling the unicode useflag in the profiles should

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-03-04 Thread Alexander Simonov
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 01:24:26AM +0900, Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: Well there are a few problems, but yes I cannot name them now. Using Japanese, Cyrillic and English in a few encodings each is a big nightmare. It's true! We in xUSSR use KOI8-R, KOI8-U, CP1251 ( aka Windows-1251), CP866.

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 11:58, Patrick Lauer wrote: During that discussion we realized that having utf-8 not enabled by default and no utf8 fonts available by default causes lots of recompilation and reconfiguration. At the same time, you'll probably hear people bitching about UTF-8 being

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 12:47, Patrick Lauer wrote: It is still optional, just enabled by default :-) Would be enough to be criticized probably, mainly by english-speaking users that doesn't care of extended characters. Although, this would follow also the direction of both Apple and

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Lars Weiler
* Patrick Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06/02/28 11:58 +0100]: Enabling the unicode useflag in the profiles should help our international users and should not cause any problems. Are there any known bugs / problems this would trigger? Any reasons against that? It is enabled by default. At least on

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 13:50 +0100, Lars Weiler wrote: * Patrick Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06/02/28 11:58 +0100]: Enabling the unicode useflag in the profiles should help our international users and should not cause any problems. Are there any known bugs / problems this would trigger? Any

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 06:47, Patrick Lauer wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 12:32 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Tuesday 28 February 2006 11:58, Patrick Lauer wrote: During that discussion we realized that having utf-8 not enabled by default and no utf8 fonts available by

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Joseph Jezak
I can't say if there are any problems, as I didn't received a bug for a long time. The only thing that's nasty: we don't have any good utf8-fonts for the console. I think that's acceptable. The only issue related to that we really have is this bug, which is annoying but not fatal:

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Kalin KOZHUHAROV
Lars Weiler wrote: * Patrick Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06/02/28 11:58 +0100]: Enabling the unicode useflag in the profiles should help our international users and should not cause any problems. Are there any known bugs / problems this would trigger? Any reasons against that? It is enabled by

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Josh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ooh, I'm very much in favor of unicode being enabled by default. It's not like users would be limited *only* to UTF-8 on their new installs, anyway. I'd love to see this implemented. ++ for the suggestion. :) Patrick Lauer wrote: Hi all, at

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread solar
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 11:58 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: Hi all, at FOSDEM we had a nice discussion about languages, translations etc. Having people from the US (wolf31o2) who never have problems and people from Japan (usata) who always have problems with encodings / charsets / ... was quite

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:47:33 -0500 solar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I forget where I read it but I thought that unicode lead to overflows | and was considered a general security risk. I wish I knew where I read | that but I'm unable to find it. | | Any list readers know anything relating to that?

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Bryan Østergaard
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 12:47:33PM -0500, solar wrote: I forget where I read it but I thought that unicode lead to overflows and was considered a general security risk. I wish I knew where I read that but I'm unable to find it. Any list readers know anything relating to that? It's true

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:47:33 -0500 solar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forget where I read it but I thought that unicode lead to overflows and was considered a general security risk. I wish I knew where I read that but I'm unable to find it. Well, stuff I could find includes:

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread solar
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 20:18 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:47:33 -0500 solar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forget where I read it but I thought that unicode lead to overflows and was considered a general security risk. I wish I knew where I read that but I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Bjarke Istrup Pedersen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Lauer skrev: Hi all, at FOSDEM we had a nice discussion about languages, translations etc. Having people from the US (wolf31o2) who never have problems and people from Japan (usata) who always have problems with encodings / charsets /