On 2012.12.27 22:13, William Hubbs wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 03:14:37PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
Something I don't like about this whole debate is that it tends to
come off as I've never run an initramfs and darn it I want to keep
it
that way. Gentoo has always been a
On Thursday 27 December 2012 17:13:56 William Hubbs wrote:
Another concern I've heard says that we shouldn't do this on linux
because gentoo *bsd doesn't do it. I don't see that as relevant
because ebuilds can be smart enough to test whether they are being
emerged on Linux or *BSD.
+1
-mike
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Tony Chainsaw Vroon
chain...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
Actually, since ulm pointed out in another thread that the
council has not mandated that we support separate /usr without an
initramfs, I am re-considering
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 07:55:38AM +, Tony Chainsaw Vroon wrote:
On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
Actually, since ulm pointed out in another thread that the
council has not mandated that we support separate /usr without an
initramfs, I am re-considering this.
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 08:00:09AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Tony Chainsaw Vroon
chain...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
Actually, since ulm pointed out in another thread that the
council has not mandated that we
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:03 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 08:00:09AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Tony Chainsaw Vroon
chain...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
Actually, since
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:35:55PM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:03 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 08:00:09AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Tony Chainsaw Vroon
chain...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed,
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:03 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
As I and others have said on this list a thousdand times, moving
everything to /usr never had anything to do with systemd and udev. This
is a completely separate topic.
Understood. However, the whole request to not
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:49:50PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:03 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
As I and others have said on this list a thousdand times, moving
everything to /usr never had anything to do with systemd and udev. This
is a completely
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:49:50PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
Understood. However, the whole request to not have to support a
separate /usr without an initramfs was brought up by the udev team.
If udev doesn't have the
On Thu, 2012-12-27 at 15:14 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
Go bring up the suggestion that the kernel should support direct
booting on lkml
And be pointed at EFI_STUB functionality. Next?
Regards,
Tony V.
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On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Tony Chainsaw Vroon
chain...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, 2012-12-27 at 15:14 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
Go bring up the suggestion that the kernel should support direct
booting on lkml
And be pointed at EFI_STUB functionality. Next?
I was referring to booting
On Wednesday 26 December 2012 23:01:46 William Hubbs wrote:
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:48:23PM +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 24/12/2012 20:08, Mike Frysinger wrote:
i.e. saying we should get rid of gen_usr_ldscript and use
--libdir=/lib makes absolutely no sense. it's just begging
On Thursday 27 December 2012 13:49:50 Rich Freeman wrote:
I think moving everything into /usr is a good idea. However:
i don't think it's hard to support both. the majority of packages just want
to relocate shared libs into / from /usr and that's easy with one line:
gen_usr_ldscript
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 03:14:37PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
Something I don't like about this whole debate is that it tends to
come off as I've never run an initramfs and darn it I want to keep it
that way. Gentoo has always been a cutting-edge/innovative distro.
We have prefix, hardened,
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:48:23PM +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 24/12/2012 20:08, Mike Frysinger wrote:
i.e. saying we should get rid of gen_usr_ldscript and use --libdir=/lib
makes absolutely no sense. it's just begging for people to screw things up
constantly and waste developer
On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
Actually, since ulm pointed out in another thread that the
council has not mandated that we support separate /usr without an
initramfs, I am re-considering this.
So now that the /usr-merge steamroller can not break systems through
udev,
On 24/12/2012 20:08, Mike Frysinger wrote:
i.e. saying we should get rid of gen_usr_ldscript and use --libdir=/lib
makes absolutely no sense. it's just begging for people to screw things up
constantly and waste developer time for 0 gain.
Amen.
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