come up with a viable plan...
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. Anyone actually using
this feature will have to use both use *and* has_version when writing
their econf / whatever call.
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[ Apologies if two of these show up. I kinda, uh, broke Exim
slightly... ]
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 16:41:19 -0500 Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 21:00 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| How will that work for packages that have a runtime dependency upon
| a text file
for something unless it's suited for the job at hand.
So why not create a better feature?
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you're solving. End
result is more unnecessary complexity, more unnecessary mess and, once
you realise your solution is inadequate, no doubt yet another
incomplete hack on top of that.
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:42:14 -0500 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:00:07 -0500 Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| wrote:
| | Why introduce a feature which is crippled? It would be almost as
| | easy to allow ebuilds to mess with their 'real
is
built. Clearly un-American. Instead, he should jump right in and
implement it without bothering to think of the requirements or exactly
what the problem to be solved is.
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upon which people have spent lots
of time. Point out gaping design flaws after it goes live and you're
told it's too late.
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want to hear, so I will repeatedly throw out
lots of ad hominem attacks and wild accusations rather than address the
issues at hand.
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On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:35:18 -0700 m h [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I'm working on trying to get prefixed installs working.
You might want to start with a proper (not content-free like the last
two attempts) requirements spec and design before you jump in with the
code.
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that globally at the
| load_config stage against a list of known stupid prefixes,
| stupidprefixes=[/usr,/,/bin] etc. etc.
The plan was to have ICANINSTALLTO=root home prefixed or somesuch.
The name isn't particularly clear on that...
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and expecting PREFIX to be sufficient is
naive from a tree-perspective.
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then / . For c/c++
| source, usual trick from fink afaik involves a mangling of cflags
| with -I tacked in. Kinda ugly, although I'd expect there is a better
| route.
Again, autoconf tinkering.
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compatible shell (and SHELL and CONFIG_SHELL aren't universally
honoured). uname, hostname and sed are called with hard paths (with
various fallbacks) in several early on stages. Of stuff not in path?
There's no standard and widely used way of digging up where libexec
tools are.
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about what may or may not break?
The issue is that you need to fix autoconf before you can claim that
any non-trivial test case works correctly.
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with a
half-arsed initial setup.
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| pointing at still stands.
The sensible place to start experimenting is by adapting existing
ebuilds and tinkering with ebuild.sh, not by adding something which may
or may not end up being relevant to portage proper.
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. Enough dancing, would rather hand it off to those who
| are interested, and see what they come up with rather then fencing
| via email (and accomplishing nothing).
*sniff* *sniff* Ah yes, the familiar smell of multilib, osx, genkernel
and the original portage implementation.
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have their faults (duh? but then
| again so does portage and the ebuild tree) but a few of them have
| been quite successful despite their varying points of inherent
| silliness.
Sure. They work around it by having lots and lots of workaround code,
not by solving the original problem.
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