Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-25 Thread Brian Richardson
On August 22, 2003 04:01 pm, Spider wrote: > And, Normally i never script updates. i don't think anyone in their sane > mind does that. our system as it is builds on manual updates and slow > migration, since we do api-changing / config changing updates... > > Had we had a stable product with a si

RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-25 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
23, 2003 6:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world Very interesting link. So, I would say that the capabilities are there and just need to be communicated. Another person in this thread (Jason Stubbs, I believe) mentioned something to the effect that packages

RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-25 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
] auto Emerge world Having said that, you may wonder why I do automatically update. As I said before, it's just to try and do my little bit to help the distro. I have all my data on a separate partition and am okay with losing a day or two to rebuild the system if something breaks really b

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-24 Thread Terje Kvernes
Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday, 23 August 2003, at 11:42 pm, Terje Kvernes wrote: > > > I've been running ~x86 on three boxes for a couple of months now, > > with the latest and greatest. things work surprisingly well, with > > some tidbits here and there requiring testes...

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Stroller
On Saturday, 23 August 2003, at 11:42 pm, Terje Kvernes wrote: I've been running ~x86 on three boxes for a couple of months now, with the latest and greatest. things work surprisingly well, with some tidbits here and there requiring testes... I think you're saying it takes balls to run ~86..

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Terje Kvernes
Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [ ... ] > (0) By all means use mostly stable packages, but let all update > recommendations age 2 weeks before performing the updates, then do > them singly and manually watching for anomalies and recommendations. I've been running ~x86 on three box

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
g or should I just keep using it while it's > stable? Just some thoughts. > > -Original Message- > From: Heschi Kreinick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] auto

RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Lionel Laratte
om: Heschi Kreinick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world > I've been following this thread and it occurs to me that doing an auto > emerge world might be better handled if

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Heschi Kreinick
> I've been following this thread and it occurs to me that doing an auto > emerge world might be better handled if there was some way to --pretend > this a print a log of what would be updated. It could even be a > menu-driven process allowing you to choose what to update. Does this > sound feasi

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 23 August 2003 19:41, Lionel Laratte wrote: > I'm a Gentoo newbie and not a programmer or even all that experienced at > Linux. However, I am a technology manager for what it's worth. Anyway, > I've been following this thread and it occurs to me that doing an auto > emerge world might

RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Lionel Laratte
Jeffrey Smelser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 12:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world Done it.. :) Since I don't do automatic updates, I let one of my 486's get pretty far behind.. over 6-9 months as a matter of fact.. I did a

RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
Done it.. :) Since I don't do automatic updates, I let one of my 486's get pretty far behind.. over 6-9 months as a matter of fact.. I did a emerge sync, emerge -udp system.. Did the gcc and glibc on their own to make sure they worked, and just kept on working the list until it was gone, then did w

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Spider
begin quote On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:48:38 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To sum up, if you want absolutely no breakage then Dhruba, Collins and > Spider have the right ideas - especially Collins with his "wait two > weeks" policy. Actually Spider broke his test box recently and di

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Collins Richey
[ snips ] On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:48:38 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 23 August 2003 00:22, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: > > OK, maybe its just me and I am a control freak.. (hell, my wife says > > I can be.. :) ).. How can anyone just write a script to emerge world > > all

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 23 August 2003 09:48, Jason Stubbs wrote: > P.S. My reference to intellect does not imply that the aforementioned > people are lacking in that area - there responses confirm that they are > not. My point is that you're average user migrating from RedHat or possibly

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 23 August 2003 00:22, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: > OK, maybe its just me and I am a control freak.. (hell, my wife says I can > be.. :) ).. How can anyone just write a script to emerge world all the time > and expect the system to just be ok?? Maybe its because of my systems being > here so

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Spider
begin quote On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:22:55 -0500 "Jeffrey Smelser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All, > > How can anyone just write a script to emerge world all > the time and expect the system to just be ok?? > The Perl thing is a great example.. > Care to help me out? > > Btw, I am not

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:10:10 +0100 Dhruba Bandopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeffrey Smelser wrote: > > I am just trying to figure out how you guys just do emerge world's > > all the time without breaking anything. > > Steps to a safe system. > > Do allow a script to: > > (1) Sync > (2)

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Jeffrey Smelser wrote: I am just trying to figure out how you guys just do emerge world's all the time without breaking anything. Steps to a safe system. Do allow a script to: (1) Sync (2) Do pretend updates (3) Fetch updates (4) Email root with pretend updates (5) Log emerge activity Do NOT allo

[gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
All, OK, maybe its just me and I am a control freak.. (hell, my wife says I can be.. :) ).. How can anyone just write a script to emerge world all the time and expect the system to just be ok?? Maybe its because of my systems being here so long. I have used gentoo since very early in the proce