Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:15:58 +0200, b.n. wrote: I didn't know that showing a mail *you* received is illegal. It may not be illegal, but it is definitely wrong. Private mail is just that. -- Neil Bothwick Programming Language: (n.) a shorthand way of describing a series of bugs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?

2008-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
brullo nulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FAQ (I assume you're talking about http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html ) only contain basic information on your side, almost without a single reference that shows me the actual full text of the email exchanges etc. supporting what you

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
brullo nulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said: less than 20% of human communication is done via words. If I did see you, I would have known whether your non-direct posting was meant to have an underlying hostile base or not. As I cannot see you, the only way to avoid

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?

2008-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's not asking different things. Quotes from his mail: - When you changed the license. For what reason. Explain, please, why there is no problem to mix GPL with CDDL (for me personally it is the most interesting part) Now, if you want to be taken seriously,

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mike Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this thread has long since left the topic of Gentoo in the dust. If you cannot just accept that Joerg is not going to be cooperative on this issue and drop it, can you please at least take this private? I am very cooperative. Some people

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?

2008-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have written the program prog-a.c and published it on your site under the GNU GPL. I have _independently_ written the prog-b.c. Nex, I've found your program and liked it. I decide that your prog-a.c and my prog-b.c serve a common purpose and they

Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-07-01 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale is back: Now, I am just hoping to get this email back and confirm that all is working again. Oh, filed a complaint with the FCC about not having DSL too. Sort of putting a fire under ATT. ;-) 24K dial-up sucks, BIG time. Picture downloading OOo, VERRRY

Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-07-01 Thread Tony Davison
On Tuesday 01 July 2008 04:57:21 Dale wrote: Hi, I emailed this list quite a while ago about not getting emails from the list or any other Gentoo list. I wrote the very VERY slow to respond ATT crew about unblocking the emails. This was on about May 16 or so. Well, a little while ago I

Re: [gentoo-user] portage update bloacked

2008-07-01 Thread Roger Mason
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, in the end I decided to play very straight and use a more up-to-date install CD. I'm currently installing from 2008.0_beta2, so far without any problems. For the record, this turns out to be a fairly straightforward blocker. A recent version

Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-07-01 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale is back: Now, I am just hoping to get this email back and confirm that all is working again. Oh, filed a complaint with the FCC about not having DSL too. Sort of putting a fire under ATT. ;-) 24K dial-up sucks, BIG time. Picture downloading OOo, VERRRY

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?

2008-07-01 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:30:11 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have written the program prog-a.c and published it on your site under the GNU GPL. I have _independently_ written the prog-b.c. Nex, I've found your program and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?

2008-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you come up with a claim that is _completely_ unrelated to cdrtools? Claim!? I was merely asking a question. Completely unrelated!? How about this: I recommend you to first inform yourself before asking in a way that just verifies that you

[gentoo-user] Re: Is the mailing list working?

2008-07-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-07-01, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emailed this list quite a while ago about not getting emails from the list or any other Gentoo list. I wrote the very VERY slow to respond ATT crew about unblocking the emails. This was on about May 16 or so. Well, a little while ago I got my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is the mailing list working?

2008-07-01 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-07-01, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emailed this list quite a while ago about not getting emails from the list or any other Gentoo list. I wrote the very VERY slow to respond ATT crew about unblocking the emails. This was on about May 16 or so. Well, a

Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?

2008-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
... understanding is a three edged sword ... ;-o -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, libcdio had an illegal license change: the authors took a lot of the code from cdrtools and claim that their code (e.g. derived from cdda2wav) is GPLv2-or-any-later. Well, not a single file from cdda2wav has ever been released under this

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You are publishing the cdrtools package. The cdrtools package in whole or in part contains mkisofs.c. So, you must cause the cdrtools package to be licensed as a whole under the terms of the GNU GPL, right? So, in other words, mkisofs cannot be

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and install cdda2wav suid root. Giving the user full access to the cdrom device isnt't enough ? Actually, I really dislike to whole idea of suid root. Then call: cdda2wav -e -N -B If everything is OK, then you will be able to listen to the

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A big problem is that on Linux _some_ SCSI commands may be send to drives Which commands does it affect, and are they needed for playback ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdda2wav has an interactive mode since yesterday. Can ths code be opted-out at compile time ? I, personally, don't want like to have unnedded features on my system (- userflag ?) BTW: could cdda2wav live as an separate package ? cu --

[gentoo-user] OT: intentionally broken media

2008-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some years ago, the Music Mafia did start to sell defective disks that look similar to CDs, but this is a different story. Yep, I recently had an dvd which didn't play on my notebook, couldn't read a single block :( Luckily I didn't buy it. In

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *like* the GPL because of that You have all the freedom, exept to cut down this freedom-attitude. It is like: I am a tolerant person, but not to intolerant people. And as another example: The german constitution also prohibits the change of

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main point is that this also disallows the usage within NonOSS software. That's what counts. Many OSS licenses do not care about later closed usage, and so one backdoor is closed, where GPL code may become unfree. For me, some of the so

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, libcdio had an illegal license change: the authors took a lot of the code from cdrtools and claim that their code (e.g. derived from cdda2wav) is GPLv2-or-any-later. Well, not a single file

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You are publishing the cdrtools package. The cdrtools package in whole or in part contains mkisofs.c. So, you must cause the cdrtools package to be licensed as a whole under the terms of the GNU GPL,

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and install cdda2wav suid root. Giving the user full access to the cdrom device isnt't enough ? Actually, I really dislike to whole idea of suid root. Then call: cdda2wav -e -N -B If everything

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't it solve the problem to just move out mkisofs to it's own package ? let me add a second answer to the serious part of the question. Would it make Linux distribution xxzzy legal if the X binaries were moved into a different distribution? How

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools - [I'm done with this crap]

2008-07-01 Thread Daniel Iliev
Joerg, as far as I can tell you need medical attention. Please, from now on do not annoy me with unwanted e-mail containing advertisements of cdrtools or information about the attacks against you. I'm done with you and your product. == localhost

[gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-01 Thread Adam Carter
I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it?

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-01 Thread Beau Henderson
Hello, On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? I haven't had a single issue with it myself. Is it possible you may have an addon or other config option causing issues ? Have you tried

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-01 Thread Johann Schmitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Carter schrieb: | I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Fast, really stable, fast, ugly with the default theme... Did i mentioned fast before? - -- Johann Schmitz http://www.j-schmitz.net -BEGIN PGP

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-01 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:31 +1000, Beau Henderson wrote: Hello, On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? I haven't had a single issue

[gentoo-user] (Recent) Locale problem

2008-07-01 Thread Hal Martin
Hi all, This has probably been mentioned before, but I can't find any mention of it in the list archive or any [gentoo] solutions on Google. Here's the problem, after a recent 'emerge -uNDav world' parts of my locale are now unset. Terminal output of 'locale' locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to

[gentoo-user] Re: [Alsa-user] speakers have no sound in Gentoo, but work in Ubuntu

2008-07-01 Thread Chuanwen Wu
Hi, thanks for your help! Both are detecting and loading snd_hda_intel. Perhaps an options line might fix on Gentoo? Add them in the /etc/modprobe.d/sound file as lines like: options snd_hda_intel model=mbp3 or 3stack or 6stack or ... It works! I have tried : options snd_hda_intel

Re: [gentoo-user] speakers have no sound in Gentoo, but work in Ubuntu

2008-07-01 Thread Chuanwen Wu
Hi, thanks for your help! It works! But I think this line options snd-hda-intel model=dell-3stack should be: options snd_hda_intel model=dell-3stack Once that is done, save the file and run: update-modules Once that has completed (you may need to update-modules --force if it complains).