[gentoo-user] Password strength checker

2008-10-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
Dear everyone, I'm looking for a Linux password strength checker, and so far I found this GPLed Java-Script-based solution [1]. Could you please suggest other utilities to test the strength of passwords? Regards, Liviu PS I'm curious whether such a JS password strength checker can be ebuilt and

Re: [gentoo-user] Password strength checker

2008-10-04 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 4 October 2008, 10:50, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear everyone, I'm looking for a Linux password strength checker, and so far I found this GPLed Java-Script-based solution [1]. Could you please suggest other utilities to test the strength of passwords? If you are concerned that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: First Portage Hick-up, Chokes on Java

2008-10-04 Thread b.n.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Thu, 2 Oct 2008, �Q� wrote: snip You didn't need this. It's for third-party e-builds, but you aren't using a third party e-build. The zip file came from Sun, but the ebuild is in the Gentoo portage tree. Ebuilds are just scripts which portage uses to build

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: First Portage Hick-up, Chokes on Java

2008-10-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, b.n. wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Thu, 2 Oct 2008, �Q� wrote: snip You didn't need this. It's for third-party e-builds, but you aren't using a third party e-build. The zip file came from Sun, but the ebuild is in the Gentoo portage tree. Ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-user] Password strength checker

2008-10-04 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 10:50 +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear everyone, I'm looking for a Linux password strength checker, and so far I found this GPLed Java-Script-based solution [1]. Could you please suggest other utilities to test the strength of passwords? Regards, Liviu Revelation,

[gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks kde... The according HowTo (emergeing from monolithic to split kde install) says one has first to unmerge the old monolithic installation of kde and the install the split stuff. But regardless what I am doing... emerge -C blocking item shows

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:08:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks kde... The according HowTo (emergeing from monolithic to split kde install) says one has first to unmerge the old monolithic installation of kde and the install the split stuff.

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread meino . cramer
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 15:19]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:08:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks kde... The according HowTo (emergeing from monolithic to split kde install) says one has first to unmerge the old

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:23:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 15:19]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:08:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks kde... The according HowTo (emergeing from monolithic

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread meino . cramer
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 16:14]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:23:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 15:19]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:08:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks

[gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Hi! I have notice KDE 4.1.2 ebuilds were added to the official protage tree (still masked though). I'm interested in most brave KDE users' opinions wrt some concrete KDE apps' stability under KDE4 (in order of importance): KMail (without IMAP using) Krusader 2.x (core, without 'Useractions')

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread Arttu V.
On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [blocks B ] gnome-base/gail-1000 (is blocking x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.3-r2) I'm no expert on this, but to me this looks like you're running some unstable gnome/gtk packages? This particular line reminds me of this quite fresh bug at

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 04 Oktober 2008, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Hi! I have notice KDE 4.1.2 ebuilds were added to the official protage tree (still masked though). I'm interested in most brave KDE users' opinions wrt some concrete KDE apps' stability under KDE4 (in order of importance): KMail (without

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Volker, thanks! === On Saturday 04 October 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: === Kima applet doesn't exist KNetLoad applet (if it works at all) don't even know if it exists. for the two above: there are countless plasmoids, just look around. As far as I have not KDE 4

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread meino . cramer
Arttu V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 16:49]: On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [blocks B ] gnome-base/gail-1000 (is blocking x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.3-r2) I'm no expert on this, but to me this looks like you're running some unstable gnome/gtk packages? This particular

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 October 2008 16:30:35 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Hi! I have notice KDE 4.1.2 ebuilds were added to the official protage tree (still masked though). I'm interested in most brave KDE users' opinions wrt some concrete KDE apps' stability under KDE4 (in order of importance): This all

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 October 2008 17:28:32 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: why compiz? kde 4.1 has rather nice effects build in (which can be turned off easily in systemsettings). I mean multiple debates about KDE 4 and video-drivers. If you have a recent-ish nvidia card, you might want to treat KDE4 as

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 October 2008 16:19:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan, yes, this is the point where I am currently: Trying to unmerge these packages. It works physically, but after unmerging the stuff and redoing a emerge -pvuNDt (as I did to send you the list after trying to unmerge all

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread meino . cramer
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 17:49]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 16:19:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan, yes, this is the point where I am currently: Trying to unmerge these packages. It works physically, but after unmerging the stuff and redoing a emerge -pvuNDt (as I

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
=== On Saturday 04 October 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: === I mean multiple debates about KDE 4 and video-drivers. If you have a recent-ish nvidia card, you might want to treat KDE4 as experimental on your box till you find the magic spell that gives you decent performance... The

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 October 2008 17:50:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 17:49]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 16:19:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan, yes, this is the point where I am currently: Trying to unmerge these packages. It works

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 October 2008 17:54:59 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: === On Saturday 04 October 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: === I mean multiple debates about KDE 4 and video-drivers. If you have a recent-ish nvidia card, you might want to treat KDE4 as experimental on your box till you

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 04 Oktober 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 04 October 2008 17:28:32 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: why compiz? kde 4.1 has rather nice effects build in (which can be turned off easily in systemsettings). I mean multiple debates about KDE 4 and video-drivers. If you have a

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 04 Oktober 2008, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: for the two above: there are countless plasmoids, just look around. As far as I have not KDE 4 installed, I can not look around yet :-) kde-looks.org ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 04 Oktober 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Konsole (he-he :-) ) Works just fine. A few minor things are missing, like having the current command show in the title bar. well, with 4.1.68 it works (and I am too lazy to check 4.1.2 right now ;) )

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread meino . cramer
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 18:20]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 17:50:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 17:49]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 16:19:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan, yes, this is the point where I am currently:

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
... I find it quite humorous that the crappy on-board Intel video chips give the best performance on KDE-4 :-) Well, it's time to redefine the term crappy :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread b.n.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Arttu V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 16:49]: On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [blocks B ] gnome-base/gail-1000 (is blocking x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.3-r2) I'm no expert on this, but to me this looks like you're running some unstable gnome/gtk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: First Portage Hick-up, Chokes on Java

2008-10-04 Thread Dale
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, b.n. wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Thanks for the additional info. Good to know! I think this little misunderstanding could be solved, in the future, by clarifying it (perhaps in a footnote) in the gentoo docs. To me the instructions

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
=== On Saturday 04 October 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: === ... Phonon (working with ALSA/hdsp) Still trying to figure out how to use Phonon :-) Do you mean Phonon in common, or Phonon + RME card? The thing is, ALSA is some thing, but ALSA + hdsp is something another :-) - there are no

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread meino . cramer
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 18:50]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Arttu V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 16:49]: On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [blocks B ] gnome-base/gail-1000 (is blocking x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.3-r2) I'm no expert on this, but to me this

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
=== On Saturday 04 October 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: === Amarok 2.x (dealing with local files only) stay with amarok 1.4 Do you mean, 1.4 does work under KDE4?

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread Arttu V.
On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it does not help. The current state (excerpt) is: snip/ Total: 23 packages (3 upgrades, 4 downgrades, 15 new, 1 in new slot, 18 blocks), Size of downloads: 63,220 kB There is one blocker less, which is slightly better but certainly not

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread meino . cramer
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 20:00]: Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 19:47:49 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: solfire:/rootemerge -pvC kdebase kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev kdeaccessibility

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 19:47:49 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: solfire:/rootemerge -pvC kdebase kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev kdeaccessibility This take a too short time to do anything physically on my

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 18:55:28 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: yesno: emerge -C removes it (?) physically, but it is still reported by emerge... The following may be just a wild guess, but who knows... You state you did an emerge -C of some packages, but the packages are still reported as

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread meino . cramer
Arttu V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 19:38]: On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it does not help. The current state (excerpt) is: snip/ Total: 23 packages (3 upgrades, 4 downgrades, 15 new, 1 in new slot, 18 blocks), Size of downloads: 63,220 kB There is one

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 04 Oktober 2008, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: === On Saturday 04 October 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: === Amarok 2.x (dealing with local files only) stay with amarok 1.4 Do you mean, 1.4 does work under KDE4? sure, as long as you keep 3.5 installed

[gentoo-user] Change install directory of ebuilds?

2008-10-04 Thread Andreas Simbuerger
Greetings, Is it possible to change the install-directory of ebuilds? Let's say for example: TODIR=/usr/local/lib emerge python I tried to find a clue within the Gentoo Documentation and the Forums but still no idea how to do that. - As it is my first post to a mailing list, i hope it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Change install directory of ebuilds?

2008-10-04 Thread Justin
Andreas Simbuerger schrieb: Greetings, Is it possible to change the install-directory of ebuilds? Let's say for example: TODIR=/usr/local/lib emerge python I tried to find a clue within the Gentoo Documentation and the Forums but still no idea how to do that. - As it is my first

Re: [gentoo-user] Change install directory of ebuilds?

2008-10-04 Thread Andreas Simbuerger
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 22:08 +0200, Justin wrote: Andreas Simbuerger schrieb: Greetings, Is it possible to change the install-directory of ebuilds? Let's say for example: TODIR=/usr/local/lib emerge python I tried to find a clue within the Gentoo Documentation and the Forums but

Re: [gentoo-user] Change install directory of ebuilds?

2008-10-04 Thread David Relson
On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:17:52 +0200 Andreas Simbuerger wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 22:08 +0200, Justin wrote: Andreas Simbuerger schrieb: Greetings, Is it possible to change the install-directory of ebuilds? Let's say for example: TODIR=/usr/local/lib emerge python I

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Roy Wright
Alan McKinnon wrote: I don't use these at all. GKrellm kicks SysGuard's butt :-) Wow! I hadn't seen GKrellm before. 15 minutes of config and theme selection and I'm sold! Thank you, Roy

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 20:39:52 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: stay with amarok 1.4 Do you mean, 1.4 does work under KDE4? sure, as long as you keep 3.5 installed kdelibs plus eventually a handful other packages would be enough, I guess. emerge will take care of the details

Re: [gentoo-user] Change install directory of ebuilds?

2008-10-04 Thread Andreas Simbuerger
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 17:15 -0400, David Relson wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:17:52 +0200 Andreas Simbuerger wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 22:08 +0200, Justin wrote: Andreas Simbuerger schrieb: Greetings, Is it possible to change the install-directory of ebuilds? Let's say

Re: [gentoo-user] Change install directory of ebuilds?

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 05 October 2008 00:03:47 Andreas Simbuerger wrote: Installs to /usr/local/lib sounds like b0rked ebuilds.  I'd try using equery to find the ebuilds that installed bad files.  Then I'd look for /usr/local in those ebuilds and fix them.  Putting the fixed ebuilds in

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:44:36 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 18:55:28 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: yesno: emerge -C removes it (?) physically, but it is still reported by emerge... The following may be just a wild guess, but who knows... You state you did an emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 October 2008 18:56:44 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: === On Saturday 04 October 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: === Amarok 2.x (dealing with local files only) stay with amarok 1.4 Do you mean, 1.4 does work under KDE4? Yes and no. It works fine if KDE-4 is

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 October 2008 18:54:16 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: === On Saturday 04 October 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: === ... Phonon (working with ALSA/hdsp) Still trying to figure out how to use Phonon :-) Do you mean Phonon in common, or Phonon + RME card? The thing is, ALSA is

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 October 2008 18:30:02 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Samstag 04 Oktober 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 04 October 2008 17:28:32 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: why compiz? kde 4.1 has rather nice effects build in (which can be turned off easily in systemsettings). I

Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmerge kde 4.1? [solved]

2008-10-04 Thread Roy Wright
Roy Wright wrote: Trying to switch from kde-portage to kde-testing overlays did not progress well. What I'd like to do to recover is unmerge all the kde 4.1 stuff and start over. Does anyone know a simple way (maybe a script) to do this? As far as I'm concerned, I'd really like to unmerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Change install directory of ebuilds?

2008-10-04 Thread David Relson
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 01:05:35 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 05 October 2008 00:03:47 Andreas Simbuerger wrote: Installs to /usr/local/lib sounds like b0rked ebuilds.  I'd try using equery to find the ebuilds that installed bad files.  Then I'd look for /usr/local in those ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-user] Some KDE apps under KDE4 stability

2008-10-04 Thread Dale
Roy Wright wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: I don't use these at all. GKrellm kicks SysGuard's butt :-) Wow! I hadn't seen GKrellm before. 15 minutes of config and theme selection and I'm sold! Thank you, Roy I think there are almost 200 different themes, skins or whatever

Re: [gentoo-user] Change install directory of ebuilds?

2008-10-04 Thread Andrey Vul
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Andreas Simbuerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition i try to solve the problems by doing an emerge -eaD world -D is unnecessary if -e is specified. And I prefer this: emerge -evp world 21 | tee ew Then I can look at ew using less and see if everything is

[gentoo-user] gnome menu question

2008-10-04 Thread David Relson
G'day, It has been my impression that the gnome-panel's main menu is based on info in files in /usr/share/applications. However there are items in my menus (for example, other/kate and other/kwrite) without files and there are files without entries (for example, virtualbox.desktop). I've tried

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome menu question

2008-10-04 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 23:29 -0400, David Relson wrote: [...] Can somebody please explain how the gnome main menu is built, where it resides, and how to force a rebuild? http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread meino . cramer
It getting more confused: This morning I did a emerge -pvuNDt world again and it shows me nothing suspicious. But doing a emerge -pv kde still reports: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3 USE=branding cups hal ldap opengl pam -arts -debug

Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split

2008-10-04 Thread meino . cramer
Sorry, I mistyped some tings: I meant (hrrrmm): :) The /blocking/ items are only shown with emerge -pv kde. and emerge .pv gnome shows package to be updated. emerge -pvuNDt world shows no blocking items nor gnome packages to be updated. ...its too early in the morning (7.28 am). ;) Meino