Mike Diehl wrote:
On Saturday 21 March 2009 21:00:11 Dale wrote:
Mike Kazantsev wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:53 -0600
Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com wrote:
Has Gentoo become such a moving target that it's no longer
suitable for
normal, every day, usage?
If
On Sunday 22 March 2009, Albert Hopkins wrote:
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 14:13 -0700, BRM wrote:
With all the words of LVM2 going on, I feel it is only appropriate
to also mention the risk.
On a desktop I had installed LVM2 considering that I did need to
upgrade partitions every now and
On Saturday 21 March 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
It's correct, and it also highlights just what a PITA it is to
manipulate traditional disk partitions. With lvm, this becomes a
breeze. With ZFS (we might see it one day) this becomes invisible.
I thought it was already there:
sys-fs/zfs-fuse
090321 Mike Diehl wrote:
Ok now, I'm getting fed up with all of the breakage
that I've seen in Gentoo in the last few months.
I haven't experienced any such thing.
I'm trying to upgrade MythTV.
I don't use that, so can't help directly.
Emerge told me to upgrade my profile, which I did.
On Sunday 22 March 2009, Mike Diehl wrote:
Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
But before I could do that, I had to upgrade portage, with made
sense.
When I go to emerge -u portage, I'm told:
sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-7.1)
So I do:
emerge -C mktemp
Now I've gotten
Hi!
I have a PDF document. One of documet's page is a (scalable) schematics.
Printing the page via my A4 Kyocera isn't suitable - I can see a schematics
with a lens only :-) Is there a way to split the page (into 2 or 4 parts) and
ptint parts separately (saving a scale, of course)?
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:58:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
I never do that: I always do 'emerge -Dup world',
then decide which packages to update emerge them individually.
I hope you use --oneshot every time or your world file will be a complete
mess by now
On Sunday 22 March 2009 07:50:04 Mike Diehl wrote:
So here is the question: Are these just growing pains, or is this the
trend with Gentoo? If I resolve to update frequently, will these problems
become more rare?
I've been using Gentoo for 4 years now, my main desktop is still running code
On Sunday 22 March 2009 08:39:20 Francesco Talamona wrote:
On Saturday 21 March 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
It's correct, and it also highlights just what a PITA it is to
manipulate traditional disk partitions. With lvm, this becomes a
breeze. With ZFS (we might see it one day) this becomes
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:50:04 -0600, Mike Diehl wrote:
However, lately, Gentoo seems to have been plagued with problems.
Circular blockers. 32/64 bit libraries. Package re-organization.
Others.
That's inevitable with a versionless distro like Gentoo. With the other
distros you have mentions,
On Saturday 21 March 2009 23:13:49 BRM wrote:
So, unless you are looking to use LVM in a soft-RAID solution between
multiple physical drives, not multiple partitions on the same drive, (e.g.
partition A = sda1 + sda2, with mirror on sdb1+sdb2), then I would not
suggest it as should anything
On Sunday 22 March 2009 08:36:31 Francesco Talamona wrote:
With or without LVM if you lose a drive then you've lost the data on
it. LVM does have the capability of assembling a partially damaged
volume group just not a partially damaged logical volume which, when
you think about it, makes
Hi,
you also have the chance of running emerge -DuavN system. That way you
can be sure that your system is stable without updating every program
you might only need once in a blue moon or you are allready seticfied with.
I would allways have an eye on the GLSA. You can do this in the forum,
with
Am Samstag, 21. März 2009 19:39:08 schrieb Jarry:
I remember having lvm2 a few years ago, and despite of that I could not
extend any partition, which was being used. What is then lvm2 good for,
if I can not extend partitions on-the-fly? I can not unmount /usr before
extending...
The
On Sunday 22 March 2009, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
Hi!
I have a PDF document. One of documet's page is a (scalable)
schematics. Printing the page via my A4 Kyocera isn't suitable - I
can see a schematics with a lens only :-) Is there a way to split the
page (into 2 or 4 parts) and ptint parts
Hi,
I'm not sure if the gtk+ update is relevant here but it was the only
thing I could find that was recently upgraded that may fit. It used to
be that if I was saving a file, picture or attachment in Seamonkey and
created a new folder, it would enter the new folder when I created it
without me
Philip Webb schrieb am 22.03.2009 07:58:
I never do that: I always do 'emerge -Dup world',
then decide which packages to update emerge them individually.
I also have a list of all the pkgs I have installed with dates + deps,
which I keep upto-date by hand as I emerge items.
I've never
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:04:03 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
I have a PDF document. One of documet's page is a (scalable)
schematics. Printing the page via my A4 Kyocera isn't suitable - I can
see a schematics with a lens only :-) Is there a way to split the page
(into 2 or 4 parts) and ptint
Am Samstag, 21. März 2009 19:39:08 schrieb Jarry:
And one more counter-argument: with traditional partitions I can select
where a certain partition is (physically). Those partitions accessed
frequently I put to the beginning of the disk with higher transfer-rate.
In my case, it makes quite
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
I remember having lvm2 a few years ago, and despite of that I could not
extend any partition, which was being used. What is then lvm2 good for,
if I can not extend partitions on-the-fly? I can not unmount /usr before
extending...
The filesystem has to support resizing. A
[...]
The point is that LVM adds an extra layer of complexity.
I used LVM paired with soft RAID, and when I needed to boot from a
liveCD I discovered that I had to rebuild the setup by hand.
You mean the 1 extra command that's needed to assemble a VG?
Daniel Pielmeier schrieb:
Marc Blumentritt schrieb am 21.03.2009 14:33:
Hi,
when I run emerge -p --depclen, I get these results:
[...]
These are the packages that would be unmerged:
x11-libs/qt
selected: 4.4.2
protected: none
omitted: 3.3.8b-r1
x11-libs/qt-assistant
090322 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:58:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
I never do that: I always do 'emerge -Dup world',
then decide which packages to update emerge them individually.
I hope you use --oneshot every time
or your world file will
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:53 -0600
Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com wrote:
It seems that as
long as I keep rebuilding machines from a current live CD, all is
well. But if I try to upgrade anything else, I end up having to
reformat. I've been using Gentoo long enough to have actually met
On Sunday 22 March 2009 12:59:15 Jarry wrote:
Are you sure? man resize2fs says:
...The resize2fs program will resize ext2 or ext3 file systems.
It can be used to enlarge or shrink an unmounted file system
located on device. If the filesystem is mounted, it can be used
to expand the
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:37:50 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
090322 Neil Bothwick wrote:
I hope you use --oneshot every time
or your world file will be a complete mess by now :(
Yes, there's always someone who says that (grin).
I wouldn't want to disappoint you :)
Of course, it's 2nd nature
On Sunday 22 March 2009 12:57:15 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:04:03 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
I have a PDF document. One of documet's page is a (scalable)
schematics. Printing the page via my A4 Kyocera isn't suitable - I can
see a schematics with a lens only :-) Is there
On Sunday 22 March 2009, Albert Hopkins wrote:
[...]
The point is that LVM adds an extra layer of complexity.
I used LVM paired with soft RAID, and when I needed to boot from a
liveCD I discovered that I had to rebuild the setup by hand.
You mean the 1 extra command that's needed to
I was thinking about the proper way to set-up the autologin some time
ago.
Some hints which came to my mind :
1) should be started as a service so restart/start/stop may be used and
doesn't leave an open root shell
2) should be restarted with ctrl+alt+backspace without losing the
keyboard focus
Am Sonntag, 22. März 2009 02:17:53 schrieb Mike Diehl:
Ok now, I'm getting fed up with all of the breakage that I've seen in
Gentoo in the last few months.
I'm trying to upgrade MythTV. Emerge told me to upgrade my profile, which
I did.
Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
But before I
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 12:44 +0100, Peter Alfredsen wrote:
I would say that if you do a complete world update at least every six
months, followed by revdep-rebuild, keeping Gentoo up-to-date should
be
relatively painless, excluding all the blockers you have to resolve.
ie.:
emerge -uDNav
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 13:53 +0100, Francesco Talamona wrote:
You mean the 1 extra command that's needed to assemble a VG?
It wasn't that easy, that's what I did in the end:
1) vgchange -a n
2) vgexport -a
3) vgimport -a
4) vgscan --mknodes
5) vgchange -a y
#5 is all I've ever had to do.
On 21/03/09 Nick Fortino said:
Hmm, that's odd. gtk+ does flag the fact that it includes gail with the
block you are running into, and gail-1000 is used to make programs which
depend on gail happy. emerge -uDN world should really just take care of
this, as gail should be upgraded to
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:35:56 -0400
Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote:
On 21/03/09 Nick Fortino said:
Hmm. Is it possible that I don't have the latest portage?
I have sys-apps/portage-2.1.6.7.
emerge --pretend --update sys-apps/portage
shows nothing so I guess I have
Hi list!
I recently acquired a virtual server at hosteurope.de
However, I slowly loose my patience with the OpenSuse installation and
would like to have my fellow Gentoo on it.
I already found this guide:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/vps/openvz-howto.xml
But it doesn't say much about how to
Hi,
I normally like to have the documentation built for all packages.
Therefore I have added 'doc' to /etc/make.conf USE
But I don't need documentation for the packages in kde-base/*
and kde-misc/*.
Since some of these take over an hour just for doxygen (on a Phenom II
3GHz) I'd like to disable
--- On Fri, 3/13/09, maxim wexler bliss...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: maxim wexler bliss...@yahoo.com
Subject: [gentoo-user] can't make rt2570 module
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Received: Friday, March 13, 2009, 2:32 PM
Hi group,
I found a bug report for this but that involved a
Florian Philipp wrote:
I recently acquired a virtual server at hosteurope.de
...
How do I have to configure the kernel?
Which sources can I use?
I'd say you do not need any sources, because as you wrote,
you have guest. openvz/virtuozzo uses one single kernel
running on host (similar as
Jarry schrieb:
Florian Philipp wrote:
I recently acquired a virtual server at hosteurope.de
... How do I have to configure the kernel?
Which sources can I use?
I'd say you do not need any sources, because as you wrote,
you have guest. openvz/virtuozzo uses one single kernel
running on
On Sunday 22 March 2009 18:57:16 Valmor de Almeida wrote:
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
...
How can I set the '-doc' use flags for all packages matching kde-base/*
and kde-misc/* (There are hundreds of them!)
I don't know whether the /etc/portage/package.use file will accept this
syntax
On Sunday 22 March 2009 17:35:56 Michael P. Soulier wrote:
On 21/03/09 Nick Fortino said:
Hmm, that's odd. gtk+ does flag the fact that it includes gail with the
block you are running into, and gail-1000 is used to make programs which
depend on gail happy. emerge -uDN world should really
Hi group,
Now that rt2570 module is installed I'd like to find out if there's a signal or
if the Ralink device even works.
iwconfig finds:
Link Quality=0/100 Signal level:-120 dBm Noise level:-93 dBm
This seems to say there is no signal. Right?
Here's kismet
heat...@kyzyl ~ $
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Sent: March 22, 2009 7:38 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?
090322 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:58:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
Now I'm doing an emerge -u
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:43:29 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote:
I normally like to have the documentation built for all packages.
Therefore I have added 'doc' to /etc/make.conf USE
Are you aware that the doc USE flag normally controls extra documentation,
such as API docs for devs? Normal
Philip Webb wrote:
090322 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:58:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
I never do that: I always do 'emerge -Dup world',
then decide which packages to update emerge them individually.
I hope you
Philip Webb wrote:
090322 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:58:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.
I never do that: I always do 'emerge -Dup world',
then decide which packages to update emerge them individually.
I hope you
Thanks for the albeit sad news!
Helmut.
--
Helmut Jarausch
Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:43:29 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote:
I normally like to have the documentation built for all packages.
Therefore I have added 'doc' to /etc/make.conf USE
Are you aware that the doc USE flag normally controls extra documentation,
Hi all, I was trying to install Gentoo 2008.0 in a Dell E4300 but the kernel
does not have support for the Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation
82567LM Gigabit Network Connection. Does anybody try to install Gentoo in
that notebook? or does anybody knows a better way to get gentoo working on
On Sunday 22 March 2009 21:53:25 Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:43:29 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote:
I normally like to have the documentation built for all packages.
Therefore I have added 'doc' to /etc/make.conf USE
Are you aware that the doc USE flag
My current setup is:
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1289423246023+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda228953381 3911827+ 82 Linux
swap /Solaris
/dev/sda33382 24804 172080247+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda4
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com wrote:
Ok now, I'm getting fed up with all of the breakage that I've seen in Gentoo
in the last few months.
Understood and personally felt.
SNIP
emerge -C mktemp
Generally a *very* bad move unless you are *absolutely* sure
Hi,
Momesso Andrea a écrit :
My current setup is:
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1289423246023+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda228953381 3911827+ 82 Linux
swap /Solaris
/dev/sda33382 24804
On Sunday 22 March 2009 22:15:14 Momesso Andrea wrote:
My current setup is:
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1289423246023+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda228953381 3911827+ 82 Linux
swap /Solaris
/dev/sda3
Am Sonntag, 22. März 2009 21:15:14 schrieb Momesso Andrea:
P.S. I'm not using vgextend to simply add sda4 to the lvm because I
might want to migrate my root (sda1) to ext4
Why do want to do that? ext4 is just a couple of months old and there's no
proof of stability whatsoever for it. Better
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:23:38 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
2) emerge -DuN world building lots of packages that are already on the
system but the LoG has apparently changed flags so emerge wants to
rebuild them.
Don't use --newuse, use --reinstall changed-use.
--
Neil Bothwick
Most software is
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:35:35 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 22 March 2009 22:15:14 Momesso Andrea wrote:
My current setup is:
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1289423246023+ 83 Linux
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:39:29 +0100
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de wrote:
Am Sonntag, 22. März 2009 21:15:14 schrieb Momesso Andrea:
P.S. I'm not using vgextend to simply add sda4 to the lvm because I
might want to migrate my root (sda1) to ext4
Why do want to do that? ext4 is
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 13:23 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
Personally I think we're in one of those
unfortunate periods of time where there is a relatively high number of
issues. I'm seeing it on all my machines. It's taking far more of my
time to deal with this than I wish it would.
1)
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:49:36 +
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:39:29 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
P.S. I'm not using vgextend to simply add sda4 to the lvm because
I might want to migrate my root (sda1) to ext4
Why do want to do that? ext4 is
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:35:35 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 22 March 2009 22:15:14 Momesso Andrea wrote:
My current setup is:
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1289423246023+ 83 Linux
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 21:58 +0100, Momesso Andrea wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:49:36 +
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:39:29 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
P.S. I'm not using vgextend to simply add sda4 to the lvm because
I might want to migrate
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:23:38 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
2) emerge -DuN world building lots of packages that are already on the
system but the LoG has apparently changed flags so emerge wants to
rebuild them.
Don't use
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 13:23 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
Personally I think we're in one of those
unfortunate periods of time where there is a relatively high number of
issues. I'm seeing it on all my machines. It's
On 22 Mar 2009, at 22:07, Mark Knecht wrote:
...
1) ntp-update problems at boot time.
Hmm, I'm not having any ntp-update problems on my machines. Have
you
submitted a bug report or searched the bug database? Obviously this
isn't happening for everyone so if the right people don't know
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:02:12 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
Also, it seems that there's no shortcut for that command so instead
of
emerge -pvDuN @world
if I understand then I might try
emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world
??? Certainly a lot more typing.
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:26:40 -0500, Dale wrote:
emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world
??? Certainly a lot more typing. ;-)
Use an alias and it's less typing.
Or add it to make.conf. I think that would work too.
It would work, every time you called emerge, whether you wanted
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:26:40 -0500, Dale wrote:
emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world
??? Certainly a lot more typing. ;-)
Use an alias and it's less typing.
Or add it to make.conf. I think that would work too.
It would
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 22:18 -0500, Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:26:40 -0500, Dale wrote:
emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world
??? Certainly a lot more typing. ;-)
Use an alias and it's less typing.
Or add it to
I think we've got too far for it, the startx in local.start does have some
drawbacks, the system will become nonresponsive if I switch back to the
console, and the X seems running on VT2 instead of VT7, I studied the xdm
script and found I've missed lots of important steps, for stability, I tried
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