Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

2010-08-19 Thread Mick
On Thursday 19 August 2010 05:01:45 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Am Mittwoch, 18. August 2010 schrieb Mick: On Wednesday 18 August 2010 19:58:14 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console. It is the X applications (including terminals) that seem to

[gentoo-user] networkmanager cannot connect to wireless network.

2010-08-19 Thread liu shukui
Hi, all after I upgraded net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.1-r3, I cannot connect to my wireless ap. here is some debug infomation. How can I fix it? tux ~ # /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon NetworkManager[6653]: info NetworkManager (version 0.8.1) is starting... NetworkManager[6653]: info Read

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xchat fails

2010-08-19 Thread liu shukui
I faced the same problem, thank you. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Gregory Shearman zek...@gmail.com wrote: In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: I have xchat installed.  An update is failing to install with error: libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libpng12.la' or unhandled

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Let me add some text I wrote for another place but that explains how things would work: 1) The OpenSource definition http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php section 9 makes it very clear that an OSS license must not restrict other software and must not prevent to bundle different works

Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL

2010-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:49:22 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: I've just experimented a bit with that and it turned out that --depclean doesn't clean up the buildtime-only deps. But if I remove one of them (eg. cabextract), they don't get pulled in again (that's indicating the depending ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed

2010-08-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:55:04PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote I had a similar message, it was there because of the fact that i specified the wrong (or failed to specify?) mtrr method in my kernel boot parameters for the framebuffer. I'm using uvesafb and in kernel documentation

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environment variable in make.conf. What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:48 on Thursday 19 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel questions

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
Thank you all.

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Nganon
On 19 August 2010 14:48, Elmar Hinz oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Graham Murray
Elmar Hinz oss.el...@googlemail.com writes: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environment variable in make.conf.

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Florian CROUZAT
On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote: Elmar Hinz oss.el...@googlemail.com writes: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1

2010-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:05:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: But for critical production machines? Not a flying chance in hell :-) Too many times I've had to sort out the carnage from idiotic juniors who blindly run emerge -uND world and walk away thinking Unix always works like RedHat. Why do

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. Has it anything to do with portage at all? Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages which languages to include/support. When Portage

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Arttu V.
On 8/19/10, Elmar Hinz oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote: Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. Has it anything to do with portage at all? Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Arttu V.
On 8/19/10, Florian CROUZAT gen...@floriancrouzat.net wrote: On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote: Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages which languages to include/support. I have

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread David W Noon
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:50:02 +0200, Elmar Hinz wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Andrea Conti
On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not portage specific. LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. It's used to control the compile-time inclusion of languages and/or locales for packages which have that kind of option (i.e. OpenOffice, KDE, Firefox and many others); as

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
No, I think you're mixing up compile-time and run-time values -- and also reading too much into the file names. make.conf should really rather be called portage.conf. That would make much more sense IMHO. :) As long as the source is the documentation, it should be possible by concept to

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
2010/8/19 Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net: On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not portage specific. LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. Really? Researching the web I understand it origins from gettext and portage has implemented it. If I understand right, it would

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/19/2010 05:37 AM, Florian CROUZAT wrote: On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote: Elmar Hinz oss.el...@googlemail.com writes: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly:

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/19/2010 06:53 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote: 2010/8/19 Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net: On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not portage specific. LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. Really? Researching the web I understand it origins from gettext and portage has

Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed

2010-08-19 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/19/2010 04:37 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:55:04PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote I had a similar message, it was there because of the fact that i specified the wrong (or failed to specify?) mtrr method in my kernel boot parameters for the framebuffer. I'm using uvesafb

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions

2010-08-19 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 18.08.2010 21:30, schrieb Elmar Hinz: 1.) Is there a Map: modules to configration parameters? lspci -k lists me all modules of the running genkernel. Unfortunately the configuration parameters of the kernel have different names. 2.) Which approach would you recommend? With new

[gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use for LINGUAS?

2010-08-19 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list! I'd like to change the LINGUAS setting for a single package. Is there a config file for stuff like this? The thing is: I want to prevent the installation of German man-pages because they are generally inferior to the English originals and while I appreciate the work done to translate

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1

2010-08-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:49 on Thursday 19 August 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:05:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: But for critical production machines? Not a flying chance in hell :-) Too many times I've had to sort out the carnage from idiotic

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use for LINGUAS?

2010-08-19 Thread Mirek Dvořák
try in package.use something like app-office/openoffice-bin linguas_en_GB linguas_de Mirek 2010/8/19 Florian Philipp li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net Hi list! I'd like to change the LINGUAS setting for a single package. Is there a config file for stuff like this? The thing is: I want to

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use for LINGUAS?

2010-08-19 Thread Andrea Conti
On 19/08/2010 17:49, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I'd like to change the LINGUAS setting for a single package. Is there a config file for stuff like this? LINGUAS (like VIDEO_CARDS, INPUT_DEVICES and similar stuff) is declared as an USE_EXPAND variable, so that its contents get

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1

2010-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:55:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Besides, if I don't give them some form of responsibility they will never become responsible. Unfortunately, the converse is not necessarily true :( -- Neil Bothwick We have a equal opportunity Calculus class -- it's fully

[gentoo-user] Firefox Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
Hi all, I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, libflash and libflashsupport: media-libs/libflash-0.4.10-r1 www-plugins/libflashsupport-1.2 USE=esd gnutls oss pulseaudio -ssl

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
Em 19-08-2010 14:34, Hilco Wijbenga escreveu: Hi all, I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, libflash and libflashsupport: media-libs/libflash-0.4.10-r1 www-plugins/libflashsupport-1.2 USE=esd gnutls

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 19 August 2010 11:00, Zhu Sha Zang zhushaz...@yahoo.com.br wrote: I don't have neither media-libs/libflash or www-plugins/libflashsupport installed here, only the same version of adobe-flash in x86_64 enviroment. In adobe site above i receive this answer: You have version 10,1,82,76

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 08/19/2010 08:34 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, libflash and libflashsupport: media-libs/libflash-0.4.10-r1 www-plugins/libflashsupport-1.2 USE=esd gnutls oss

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
Em 19-08-2010 15:49, Nikos Chantziaras escreveu: On 08/19/2010 08:34 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, libflash and libflashsupport:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 19 August 2010 11:49, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: It seems like you have installed it locally.  To find out where it is, execute this (as normal user):  lsof | grep flash Firefox must be running and flash loaded (opening a YouTube video should do it.) Brilliant! That was

[gentoo-user] [OT] Incomplete mysql backup

2010-08-19 Thread Mick
I use mysqldump to back up a database from a development environment and upload it to a production environment. A couple of days ago I was surprised to see that I was getting errors as soon as I uploaded the backed up database to the production machine! I repeated the backup (more in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 19 August 2010 11:59, Zhu Sha Zang zhushaz...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Did you erased ~/.mozilla directory? Calm down first, but think thirst in mv .mozilla MOZILLA-BCK, then try use firefox again. :-) I'm quite calm. :-) I didn't erase the whole directory just the lib for the plugin in

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 8/19/2010 9:33 AM, Andrea Conti wrote: On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not portage specific. LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. It's used to control the compile-time inclusion of languages and/or locales for packages which have that kind of option (i.e.

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 8/19/2010 9:53 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote: But is the following generalization correct? * LINGUAS is the compile time setting (for multiple languages) * LANG is the runtime setting (for the current language). Yes, as long as you're aware that LINGUAS support is recommended, but optional. A

[gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-19 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I just got this elog from updating my gentoo system. It's from freetype-2.4.2: begin -- LOG (postinst) The TrueType bytecode interpreter is no longer patented and thus no longer controlled by the bindist USE flag. Enable the auto-hinter

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
With new enough kernel sources (gentoo-sources in stable are good enough), there is `make localmodconfig` which removes all mods from your current .config which are not loaded. There is also `make localyesconfig` which does the same but doesn't create modules. Hope this helps, Yes. Sounds

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 08/19/2010 10:03 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On 19 August 2010 11:49, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: It seems like you have installed it locally. To find out where it is, execute this (as normal user): lsof | grep flash Firefox must be running and flash loaded (opening a YouTube

Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed

2010-08-19 Thread Mick
On Thursday 19 August 2010 15:47:46 Bill Longman wrote: On 08/19/2010 04:37 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:55:04PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote I had a similar message, it was there because of the fact that i specified the wrong (or failed to specify?) mtrr method in my

Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed

2010-08-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I think my mtrr is OK, but I do not understand this enough to know if it would benefit from manual configuration. I think, from the error you posted about originally, it's just letting you know: Hey, your MTRR was set wrong

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:21:20 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: So I looked up auto-hinter in the flagedit(1) program. It says: auto-hinter: Local Flag: Use the unpatented auto-hinter instead of the (recommended) TrueType bytecode interpreter (media-libs/freetype) The placement of the

Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed

2010-08-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 19 August 2010 22:43:19 Paul Hartman wrote: I think, from the error you posted about originally, it's just letting you know: Hey, your MTRR was set wrong and we've changed it for you. So changing it would simply make the message go away but not actually perform any differently

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 19 August 2010 21:21:20 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: So I looked up auto-hinter in the flagedit(1) program. It says: auto-hinter: Local Flag: Use the unpatented auto-hinter instead of the (recommended) TrueType bytecode interpreter (media- libs/freetype) The placement of the

[gentoo-user] removing an overlay

2010-08-19 Thread Alan Warren
Hello, I've just sync'd my machine, and realized I'm pulling in a few packages from the devnull overlay that I would rather not. freetype / fontconfig / cairo for example and it's causing some conflicts when I try to update (-auvND world). I mainly use devnull for uzbl, dmenu, and my window

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Incomplete mysql backup

2010-08-19 Thread kashani
On 8/19/2010 12:03 PM, Mick wrote: I use mysqldump to back up a database from a development environment and upload it to a production environment. A couple of days ago I was surprised to see that I was getting errors as soon as I uploaded the backed up database to the production machine! I