Re: [gentoo-user] What's the story with 2.6.35 kernel?

2010-09-11 Thread Graham Murray
Ajai Khattri a...@bway.net writes: I upgraded several machines and some failed to boot 2.6.35, they just hang after grub starts loading the kernel. Some of these I managed to fix by comparing kernel configs with working machines, others dont work at all. The worst case is one where Ive

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon walt w41...@gmail.com: On 09/10/2010 07:25 AM, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: Selon alain.didierj...@free.fr: Selon Strollerstrol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected

[gentoo-user] IOAPIC kernel error and oops!

2010-09-11 Thread Mick
I just compiled and installed gentoo 2.6.35-r4 on an x86 machine and it failed miserably on boot up. As this kernel configuration of mine is not materially different to the 2.6.34 version, I am wondering if it is suffering from some congenital defect. Anyone else having such problems? --

[gentoo-user] Re: IOAPIC kernel error and oops!

2010-09-11 Thread Mick
On Saturday 11 September 2010 07:57:32 you wrote: I just compiled and installed gentoo 2.6.35-r4 on an x86 machine and it failed miserably on boot up. As this kernel configuration of mine is not materially different to the 2.6.34 version, I am wondering if it is suffering from some congenital

Re: [gentoo-user] Properly handling missing files when downloading files from ftp:// via ISA proxy (emerge/wget)

2010-09-11 Thread Mick
On Friday 10 September 2010 17:13:44 Maciej Grela wrote: 2010/9/10 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Maciej Grela maciej.gr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is there any way to make emerge (wget) correctly behave when it tries to download a

[gentoo-user] Moving / around...

2010-09-11 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I plan to convert (==reinstall) my system to be 64bit. Since I have an already working and configure 32bit Gentoo- system I would like to do the migration as follows: Create another / partition somwhere on my harddisk Install/Create a new 64bit Gentoo root there. If everything works fine:

[gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Stéphane Guedon
few months ago, I read linux kernel in a nutschell, and the author wrote we shouldn't do kernel operations (config and build) as root. Is sudo (or kdesudo ?) a good replacement to that ? Kdesudo works good to have xconfig, which is more comfortable that menuconfig. But is it a good manner of

Re: [gentoo-user] How to correctly read CPU temperature ?

2010-09-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 11 September 2010, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, with the command sensors (lm_sensor) I can read out the temperatures/voltages of my mobo/cpu: atk0110-acpi-0 Adapter: ACPI interface Vcore Voltage: +1.35 V (min = +0.80 V, max = +1.60 V) CPU/NB

[gentoo-user] static-libs

2010-09-11 Thread Stéphane Guedon
synce few days, I have a message of portage suggestiung me to use the static- libs USE flag for media-libs/jpeg-6b. What may be the consequence ? Please be gentle with explaining this sorte of things, as I have not the knowledges to understand the full compile process, otherwise I am a little

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:24 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: few months ago, I read linux kernel in a nutschell(sic), and the author wrote we shouldn't do kernel operations (config and build) as root. I call bullsh*t. I've been compiling kernels for 17 years and for the most part have done it

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving / around...

2010-09-11 Thread Alex Schuster
meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: I plan to convert (==reinstall) my system to be 64bit. Since I have an already working and configure 32bit Gentoo- system I would like to do the migration as follows: Create another / partition somwhere on my harddisk Install/Create a new 64bit Gentoo root

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Saturday 11 September 2010 11:46:59, Albert Hopkins a écrit : On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:24 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: few months ago, I read linux kernel in a nutschell(sic), and the author wrote we shouldn't do kernel operations (config and build) as root. I call bullsh*t. I've been

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Monday 06 September 2010 17:11:17, alain.didierj...@free.fr a écrit : Selon Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving / around...

2010-09-11 Thread meino . cramer
Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org [10-09-11 12:08]: meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: I plan to convert (==reinstall) my system to be 64bit. Since I have an already working and configure 32bit Gentoo- system I would like to do the migration as follows: Create another / partition somwhere

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving / around...

2010-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:08:49 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: I would mount -o bind / /mnt/binroot and cp -a or something /mnt/bindroot to the 32bit-/, so you don't copy things as /proc and /dev as well. Or use the -x option with cp, although I prefer to use rsync -ax for this type of thing. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Sep 2010, at 07:38, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: ... AFAICT, you didn't say if you read the earlier thread cited by Stroller: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/216290 Sure did. didn't help much. No, it wouldn't if you didn't bother to read it or actually follow

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 11 September 2010, Stéphane Guedon wrote: Le Saturday 11 September 2010 11:46:59, Albert Hopkins a écrit : On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:24 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: few months ago, I read linux kernel in a nutschell(sic), and the author wrote we shouldn't do kernel operations

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving / around...

2010-09-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:19 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: SNIP I think there is some misunderstanding: Before migration to 64bit: /dev/sda3 is mounted on / and contains the 32bit Gentoo /dev/sda10 is mounted on /home/mcc/migration and will contain the stuff of the 64bit Gentoo After

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving / around...

2010-09-11 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [10-09-11 17:08]: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:19 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: SNIP I think there is some misunderstanding: Before migration to 64bit: /dev/sda3 is mounted on / and contains the 32bit Gentoo /dev/sda10 is mounted on

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 05:46 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: In a perfect, tidy world we'd all do that. This world, however does not exist. Even portage, by default does configure and make as root (albeit in a sandbox so it is safe(r). I suppose one could compile the kernel sources as root

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de: alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, but /dev/cdrom is not created at boot time and k3b returns No optical drive

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu: Le Monday 06 September 2010 17:11:17, alain.didierj...@free.fr a écrit : Selon Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's the story with 2.6.35 kernel?

2010-09-11 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Extremely bad idea. It's no wonder something did break. You can't just silentoldconfig between kernel versions and expect it to always work. At least oldconfig would catch new options (which might be options replacing old ones.)

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving / around...

2010-09-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:23 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: SNIP Why not mount /dev/sda10 as root and be done with it.? No need to move anything.  ...because data access at the outer partitions are faster than those  in the middle... OK, assuming it's really measurable in real life, but

[gentoo-user] Re: S/MIME passphrase problem with Kleopatra

2010-09-11 Thread Mick
On Thursday 13 May 2010 11:08:48 you wrote: In the last two weeks I renewed an SSL certificate from Comodo for email usage. This time round Kleopatra is having problems with recognising the passphrase I use. I partially suspect a gnupg bug here probably relating to mime characters, but I

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread Mick
On Saturday 11 September 2010 16:57:18 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: Selon Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de: alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, but

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread Mick
On Saturday 11 September 2010 17:01:29 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: Selon Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu: Le Monday 06 September 2010 17:11:17, alain.didierj...@free.fr a écrit : Selon Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr

[gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/11/2010 11:24 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote: few months ago, I read linux kernel in a nutschell, and the author wrote we shouldn't do kernel operations (config and build) as root. Is sudo (or kdesudo ?) a good replacement to that ? Kdesudo works good to have xconfig, which is more

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: If you call cdrecord (release 3.00): cdrecord -scanbus or cdrecord -checkdrive and it finds a drive, then there is a bug in k3b. al...@isba ~ $ cdrecord --checkdrive Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Saturday 11 September 2010 17:01:29 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: Selon Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu: Le Monday 06 September 2010 17:11:17, alain.didierj...@free.fr a écrit : Selon Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: On 6

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 11 September 2010 18:50:04 Mick wrote: Deselect that which is deprecated and will be removed soon I hope it won't. I have one box whose drives the new drivers cannot detect - at least, nothing I've tried has worked so far. and select the appropriate SCSI drivers for your drives.

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving / around...

2010-09-11 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [10-09-11 20:40]: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:23 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: SNIP Why not mount /dev/sda10 as root and be done with it.? No need to move anything.  ...because data access at the outer partitions are faster than those  in the

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:24 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: On Saturday 11 September 2010 18:50:04 Mick wrote: Deselect that which is deprecated and will be removed soon I hope it won't. I have one box whose drives the new drivers cannot detect -

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 11:46 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:24 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: few months ago, I read linux kernel in a nutschell(sic), and the author wrote we shouldn't do kernel operations (config and build)

[gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/11/2010 11:18 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:46 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:24 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: few months ago, I read linux kernel in a nutschell(sic), and the author wrote we

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:46 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:24 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: few months ago, I read linux kernel in a nutschell(sic), and the author wrote we shouldn't do kernel

[gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/11/2010 11:35 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:46 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:24 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: few months ago, I read linux kernel in a nutschell(sic), and the author

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:35:58 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: If they are accessible by a user, couldn't a user then edit or add something that would then cause a security problem? If they can edit them and no one know it, then root comes along and builds a shiney new kernel with a

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:28 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Etaoin Shrdlu did opine thusly: On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:35:58 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: If they are accessible by a user, couldn't a user then edit or add something that would then cause a security problem? If

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/11/2010 11:35 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:46 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:24 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: few months ago, I read linux kernel in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:34 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Nikos Chantziaras did opine thusly: On 09/11/2010 11:18 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:46 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:24

[gentoo-user] Re: static-libs

2010-09-11 Thread walt
On 09/11/2010 02:13 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote: synce few days, I have a message of portage suggestiung me to use the static- libs USE flag for media-libs/jpeg-6b. What may be the consequence ? Please be gentle with explaining this sorte of things, as I have not the knowledges to understand the

[gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/11/2010 11:49 PM, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/11/2010 11:35 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:46 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:24 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: few months

[gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/11/2010 11:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:34 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Nikos Chantziaras did opine thusly: On 09/11/2010 11:18 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:46 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Albert Hopkins did opine

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving / around...

2010-09-11 Thread Alex Schuster
meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: I think there is some misunderstanding: Before migration to 64bit: /dev/sda3 is mounted on / and contains the 32bit Gentoo /dev/sda10 is mounted on /home/mcc/migration and will contain the stuff of the 64bit Gentoo After migration I will *not* mount

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:01 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Nikos Chantziaras did opine thusly: On 09/11/2010 11:49 PM, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/11/2010 11:35 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:46 on Saturday 11 September

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/11/2010 11:49 PM, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/11/2010 11:35 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:46 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:24 +0200, Stéphane

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 11 September 2010 21:15:12 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 20:24 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thus: On Saturday 11 September 2010 18:50:04 Mick wrote: Deselect that which is deprecated and will be removed soon I hope it won't.

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 11 September 2010 21:28:13 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: This was actually a potential risk once upon a time: Sorry to drift from the topic, but would somebody please explain to me what a potential risk is? How does it differ from a risk? (Not getting at you, Etaoin; the world is just full

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:05:22 +0100 Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Saturday 11 September 2010 21:28:13 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: This was actually a potential risk once upon a time: Sorry to drift from the topic, but would somebody please explain to me what a potential risk

Re: [gentoo-user] Properly handling missing files when downloading files from ftp:// via ISA proxy (emerge/wget)

2010-09-11 Thread Brett Freer
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 10 September 2010 17:13:44 Maciej Grela wrote: 2010/9/10 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com : On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Maciej Grela maciej.gr...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread Mick
On Saturday 11 September 2010 22:57:12 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 11 September 2010 21:15:12 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 20:24 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thus: On Saturday 11 September 2010 18:50:04 Mick wrote: Deselect

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 11 September 2010 23:03:14 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Makes sense? Not convinced. Sorry. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:47 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Dale did opine thusly: My point was, if the sources are say in the user group, then any user can edit them? Right now, they are in the root group and owned my root which for security reasons is a good idea. That way a

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 00:06:04 +0100 Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Saturday 11 September 2010 23:03:14 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Makes sense? Not convinced. Sorry. The Merriam-Webster gives this definition of potential: existing in possibility : capable of development into

[gentoo-user] Re: static-libs

2010-09-11 Thread walt
On 09/11/2010 01:52 PM, walt wrote: I don't know how portage chooses between static and dynamic libs while building a package. Aha! Grepping through /usr/portage/eclass/* for 'static' taught me something: xorg-2.eclass: myopts+= $(use_enable static-libs static) So there is

[gentoo-user] Re: undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-11 Thread walt
On 09/11/2010 11:24 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 11 September 2010 18:50:04 Mick wrote: Deselect that which is deprecated and will be removed soon I hope it won't. I have one box whose drives the new drivers cannot detect - at least, nothing I've tried has worked so far. That

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: static-libs

2010-09-11 Thread Al
What happens if portage builds a 'static' package that links against a library that was installed without the 'static-libs' useflag being set? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/introduction.html writes: DL libraries aren't really a different kind of library format (both static and

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving / around...

2010-09-11 Thread meino . cramer
Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org [10-09-12 04:13]: meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: I think there is some misunderstanding: Before migration to 64bit: /dev/sda3 is mounted on / and contains the 32bit Gentoo /dev/sda10 is mounted on /home/mcc/migration and will contain the stuff