Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean complains that a package is not installed but it is installed.

2011-02-02 Thread netfab
Le 02/02/11 à 01:23, Dale a tapoté : Is this a bug or am I missing something, again. ;-) Bug #353362 : http://bugs.gentoo.org/353362

[gentoo-user] Re: --depclean complains that a package is not installed but it is installed.

2011-02-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/02/2011 09:23 AM, Dale wrote: I run --depclean every once and a while to see if anything is not needed anymore. Sort of do a little house cleaning. When I run it, it gives me this message: Calculating dependencies... done! * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to * the

Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:17:11 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Tuxonice also includes kernel patches, so it isn't only using what the kernel provides. You can use the tuxonice scripts with a vanilla kernel, you just miss out on the extra features. Sure. But what are the extras in

Re: [gentoo-user] USB stick recognition problem

2011-02-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:43 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, since a few weeks I have a strange effect with my USB stick. According to fdisk there is one partition on it /dev/sde1              38     7839719     3919841    b  W95 FAT32 which I haven't changed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems...

2011-02-02 Thread BRM
From: Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org On Tuesday 01 February 2011 20:43:43 BRM wrote: And you're doing a typically manual process for updating all the systems - update your server first, then any rsync clients. Fine dandy if that is your process - but it's not mine. I may update my

Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.02.2011 09:41, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:17:11 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Sure. But what are the extras in S2R-context? What do I miss? The most obvious is the ability to abort a suspend or resume. That was my impression as well. I don't really need that.

[gentoo-user] xfce woes

2011-02-02 Thread John
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gentoo Lite Users, I have recently upgraded to xfce 4.8 All seems to be well apart from a) Normal Users cannot shutdown b) Normal Users cannot automount using xfce (can through sudo mount). I have followed xfce guide using use flags as suggested.

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I reset mount-count?

2011-02-02 Thread Nils Holland
On 15:16 Tue 01 Feb , Dale wrote: I also googled a bit and it does appear that the booting check resets the counter. At least that was what one poster said. May not be the case now but thought I would mention it. Yep, the check at boot that gets executed after the specified maximum

Re: [gentoo-user] HDD with too aggressive power management

2011-02-02 Thread Nils Holland
On 22:08 Tue 01 Feb , Nils Holland wrote: I guess it's probably the way this machine works, and feel that the reference to acpid sounds like a very promising way to fixing this. As such, thanks to everyone who pointed me into that direction - I'll have a look and see if it works!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems...

2011-02-02 Thread Nils Holland
On 15:41 Tue 01 Feb , Joshua Murphy wrote: The trick I've been using for... a couple years now, across various machines (no cron involved), is syncing one box that shares portage *and* my distfiles on nfs, portage R/O, distfiles R/W, then when it's done syncing and starts its own

[gentoo-user] Re: USB stick recognition problem

2011-02-02 Thread walt
On 02/02/2011 07:48 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: I have a USB SD-card reader which cannot read the partition table when first inserted into the PC. But, if I issue hdparm -z /dev/sdg then the kernel re-reads the partition table and everything works fine after that. That sounds to me like a bug :)

[gentoo-user] Re: xfce woes

2011-02-02 Thread walt
On 02/02/2011 11:23 AM, John wrote: I have recently upgraded to xfce 4.8 All seems to be well apart from a) Normal Users cannot shutdown b) Normal Users cannot automount using xfce (can through sudo mount). I understand very well your frustration because my gnome desktop goes through periods

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB stick recognition problem

2011-02-02 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 02 February 2011 21:29:22 walt wrote: On 02/02/2011 07:48 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: I have a USB SD-card reader which cannot read the partition table when first inserted into the PC. But, if I issue hdparm -z /dev/sdg then the kernel re-reads the partition table and everything

[gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Brian Waters
Hi there. I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu (I heard it just works, and that is a Good Thing) only to find that I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again. (The fact that Ubuntu ships with PulseAudio means that sound it basically broken out of the box, and I'm excited for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB stick recognition problem

2011-02-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:29 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/02/2011 07:48 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: I have a USB SD-card reader which cannot read the partition table when first inserted into the PC. But, if I issue hdparm -z /dev/sdg then the kernel re-reads the partition table and

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Brian Waters brianmwat...@gmail.com wrote: [...] So I'm wondering what versions of udev and X server (and any other packages, dbus maybe?) I need to unmask in order to get rid of the HAL dependency. Using GNOME, the only package that depends by default on HAL

[gentoo-user] Re: Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/03/2011 12:59 AM, Brian Waters wrote: [...] It's been a few months since I've been around, and I'd like to know if HAL has been fully deprecated yet. I'd like to avoid using it if at all possible, since that seems to be the way of the future. So I'm wondering what versions of udev and X

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Brian Waters
Thanks Canek, that's perfect because for this upcoming install I'm planning on using acpid for power management anyway. I don't think power management is something that should run as a regular logged in user, and it causes problems like your laptop not sleeping when you're logged out with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Brian Waters brianmwat...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu (I heard it just works, and that is a Good Thing) only to find that I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again. (The fact that Ubuntu ships with

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Dale
Brian Waters wrote: Hi there. I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu (I heard it just works, and that is a Good Thing) only to find that I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again. (The fact that Ubuntu ships with PulseAudio means that sound it basically broken out of the box,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/03/2011 12:59 AM, Brian Waters wrote: [...] It's been a few months since I've been around, and I'd like to know if HAL has been fully deprecated yet. I'd like to avoid using it if at all possible, since that seems to be the way of the future. So I'm wondering what

[gentoo-user] Re: USB stick recognition problem

2011-02-02 Thread walt
On 02/02/2011 03:05 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:29 PM, waltw41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/02/2011 07:48 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: I have a USB SD-card reader which cannot read the partition table when first inserted into the PC. That sounds to me like a bug :) do you

[gentoo-user] Re: How can I reset mount-count?

2011-02-02 Thread walt
On 02/01/2011 12:05 PM, Jarry wrote: I would like to avoid it [fsck], as it is rather large partition (2TB) with a lot of files, and fsck takes quite long time... The ext4 wiki site claims that fsck runs 2 to 20 time faster than ext3, depending on the number and size of the files contained in

[gentoo-user] openoffice and IDL

2011-02-02 Thread Bill Kenworthy
I am having problems building openoffice - it gets to the IDL files (actual file it hangs on can vary) and seems to crash part of X and the build hangs. Anyone seen this before? - it is happening on only one of my systems and I google isnt showing me any similar situations. BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice and IDL

2011-02-02 Thread Dale
Bill Kenworthy wrote: I am having problems building openoffice - it gets to the IDL files (actual file it hangs on can vary) and seems to crash part of X and the build hangs. Anyone seen this before? - it is happening on only one of my systems and I google isnt showing me any similar

Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice and IDL

2011-02-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 06:14 on Thursday 03 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Bill Kenworthy wrote: I am having problems building openoffice - it gets to the IDL files (actual file it hangs on can vary) and seems to crash part of X and the build hangs. Anyone seen this

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:59 on Thursday 03 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Brian Waters wrote: Hi there. I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu (I heard it just works, and that is a Good Thing) only to find that I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce woes

2011-02-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:00 on Thursday 03 February 2011, walt did opine thusly: On 02/02/2011 11:23 AM, John wrote: I have recently upgraded to xfce 4.8 All seems to be well apart from a) Normal Users cannot shutdown b) Normal Users cannot automount using xfce (can through

Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice and IDL

2011-02-02 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 07:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 06:14 on Thursday 03 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Bill Kenworthy wrote: I am having problems building openoffice - it gets to the IDL files (actual file it hangs on can vary) and seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Brian Waters
I can't imagine why the GIMP would depend on HAL... lol. And for the record, yes, I am not on Gentoo right now. - BW On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 01:59 on Thursday 03 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Brian

[gentoo-user] Any way to get real text console without killing X capability?

2011-02-02 Thread Walter Dnes
Back around 2000, we still had CRT monitors, not LCDs. The cheaper monitors shimmered badly in GUI mode and were hard on my eyes. One of the factors that drove me to linux back then was that, except for web browsing and spreadsheets, I could do most of my work in a true text console (and I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB stick recognition problem

2011-02-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:11 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/02/2011 03:05 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:29 PM, waltw41...@gmail.com  wrote: On 02/02/2011 07:48 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: I have a USB SD-card reader which cannot read the partition table when first

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Dale
Brian Waters wrote: I can't imagine why the GIMP would depend on HAL... lol. And for the record, yes, I am not on Gentoo right now. - BW In GIMP under the file menu, there is a option to get pictures from a camera. I have never used that but I guess that is where hal comes in. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB stick recognition problem

2011-02-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 08:08 on Thursday 03 February 2011, Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:11 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/02/2011 03:05 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:29 PM, waltw41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/02/2011 07:48 AM,

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Brian Waters
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: In GIMP under the file menu, there is a option to get pictures from a camera.  I have never used that but I guess that is where hal comes in.  It may be something else but that is all I could find. Christ, it's like .dll hell all

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Philip Webb
110202 Brian Waters wrote: I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu -- I heard it just works and that is a Good Thing -- only to find that I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again. When I set up my little EEE netbook 2009 , I considered alternatives, but quickly decided that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB stick recognition problem

2011-02-02 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Then the reader itself is probably horribly broken. Or has been built to comply to whatever broken Windows is doing today My USD card reader JustWorks(tm) everywhere with everything. And they are dirt cheap, about the price of the smallest SD card I can buy. Time for a new