Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird fixed folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-07 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Monday 06 June 2011 11:55:07 Tanstaafl wrote: On 2011-06-06 11:16 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Not idea, I'll grant you, but it isn't *that* hard to do... If you know the different locations to change it AND realize you need to restart the application for changes like these to take

Re: [gentoo-user] Vbox won't show up on left monitor at full screen

2011-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 07:20 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mick did opine thusly: On Monday 06 Jun 2011 23:44:12 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 00:08 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mick did opine thusly: I'm not sure I understand why this happens: Left

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

2011-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 04:55 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Bill Longman wrote: On 06/06/2011 11:32 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo. Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days, unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to

Re: [gentoo-user] Init

2011-06-07 Thread Dale
JDM wrote: When switching from runlevel 3 to 1 init 1 seems to work as I would expect. When I init 3 applications hang, I have to keep hitting return to get any progress. Usually I end up rebooting as X won't start. Question - should I be using init to change runlevels or is there a better

Re: [gentoo-user] Init

2011-06-07 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: JDM wrote: When switching from runlevel 3 to 1 init 1 seems to work as I would expect. When I init 3 applications hang, I have to keep hitting return to get any progress. Usually I end up rebooting as X won't start. Question - should I be using init to change runlevels or is

Re: [gentoo-user] Init

2011-06-07 Thread JDM
Thanks Dale. Will try tonight when I get home. After using Gentoo for a number of years you get used to doing things a certain. These mailing lists really help expand knowledge. Regards JDM -Original Message- From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 02:22:27 To:

[gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with system set and depclean handling. It now shows this: !!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system profile.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with system set and depclean handling. It now shows this: !!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system. app-editors/nano selected: 2.3.1 protected: none

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

2011-06-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Bill. On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 04:11:57PM -0700, Bill Longman wrote: On 06/06/2011 11:32 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo. Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days, unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs developer; the number of

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

2011-06-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, David. On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 07:47:37PM -0400, David Relson wrote: Long live emacs ! emacs is an essential part of my personal toolkit. I've been using it since 1996. For 11 yrs before that I used epsilon - an editor with much the same keymappings. Wow! I started in about 1997,

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

2011-06-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Indi. On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 03:15:14PM -0400, Indi wrote: On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 06:32:11PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo. Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days, unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs developer; the

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:10:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: !!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system. !!! 'sys-apps/less' is part of your system profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system. Anyone else seeing this?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thanks for all the fish!

2011-06-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, James. On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 06:56:49PM +, James wrote: Alan Mackenzie acm at muc.de writes: Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days, Well, you can withdraw from the volume of mail but using gmane to interface to the list: gmane.org Just use an interface

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

2011-06-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Alan. On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 08:49:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 20:32 on Monday 06 June 2011, Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: Hi, Gentoo. Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days, unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird fixed folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-07 Thread Todd Goodman
* kashani kashani-l...@badapple.net [110606 19:37]: On 6/6/2011 4:31 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 01:01 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, James did opine thusly: Ju want closet commando action? Check out some of my old college buddies from Alaska:

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:54 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:10:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: !!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system. !!! 'sys-apps/less' is part

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Indi
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:10:25AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: sys-apps/less selected: 443 protected: none omitted: none Changelog doesn't say much about this. I have nano, vim, more and less installed and vim is in world. I really don't feel like adding the other

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Todd Goodman
* Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com [110607 04:42]: Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with system set and depclean handling. It now shows this: !!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system profile.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with system set and depclean handling. It now shows this: !!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system. I

[gentoo-user] udisks wants to downgrade udev and parted - but why?

2011-06-07 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I'm puzzled again by portage's logic. When trying to emerge sys-fs/udisks-1.0.2-r4 it wants to downgrade sys-fs/udev from 171 to 168-r2 and sys-block/parted from 3.0 to 2.4 The udisks' ebuild contains =sys-fs/udev-147[extras] =sys-block/parted-1.8.8[device-mapper] sys-fs/udev hasn't an

Re: [gentoo-user] udisks wants to downgrade udev and parted - but why?

2011-06-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 17:36:08 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: sys-block/parted-3.0 has been emerged with the device-mapper use flag. But why does portage try to downgrade these to packages? parted 3.0 is now masked, it broke gparted and others # Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org (5 Jun 2011) #

Re: [gentoo-user] udisks wants to downgrade udev and parted - but why?

2011-06-07 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Helmut Jarausch schrieb am 07.06.2011 17:36: When trying to emerge sys-fs/udisks-1.0.2-r4 it wants to downgrade sys-fs/udev from 171 to 168-r2 The udisks' ebuild contains =sys-fs/udev-147[extras] sys-fs/udev hasn't an 'extra' use flag But sys-fs/udev-168-r2 has an extra use flag thus

[gentoo-user] vmware opengl

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Harrison
Hi list, I have to run windows most of the time on my main desktop for work reasons, but every now and then I install a gentoo guest on vmware to see how the latest DMs are coming along. The current KDE4 is vastly improved from last time, extremely responsive and everything is really

Re: [gentoo-user] vmware opengl

2011-06-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Matt Harrison iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Hi list, I have to run windows most of the time on my main desktop for work reasons, but every now and then I install a gentoo guest on vmware to see how the latest DMs are coming along. The current KDE4 is

Re: [gentoo-user] vmware opengl

2011-06-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Matt Harrison iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Hi list, I have to run windows most of the time on my main desktop for work reasons, but every now and then I install a gentoo

[gentoo-user] Re: vmware opengl

2011-06-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/07/2011 09:43 PM, Matt Harrison wrote: Hi list, I have to run windows most of the time on my main desktop for work reasons, but every now and then I install a gentoo guest on vmware to see how the latest DMs are coming along. The current KDE4 is vastly improved from last time, extremely

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware opengl

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Harrison
On 07/06/2011 20:34, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/07/2011 09:43 PM, Matt Harrison wrote: Hi list, I have to run windows most of the time on my main desktop for work reasons, but every now and then I install a gentoo guest on vmware to see how the latest DMs are coming along. The current

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:36 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Alan McKinnon did opine thusly: Apparently, though unproven, at 12:54 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:10:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: !!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware opengl

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Harrison
On 07/06/2011 20:34, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/07/2011 09:43 PM, Matt Harrison wrote: Hi list, I have to run windows most of the time on my main desktop for work reasons, but every now and then I install a gentoo guest on vmware to see how the latest DMs are coming along. The current

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP #370295 Zac responded (comment #21) to my post in that bug with quite a well-reasoned rationale. It makes interesting reading. It was a good response. One question left hanging for me goes like this: I

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:51 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mark Knecht did opine thusly: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP #370295 Zac responded (comment #21) to my post in that bug with quite a well-reasoned rationale. It makes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware opengl

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Harrison
On 07/06/2011 21:40, Matt Harrison wrote: On 07/06/2011 20:34, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/07/2011 09:43 PM, Matt Harrison wrote: Hi list, I have to run windows most of the time on my main desktop for work reasons, but every now and then I install a gentoo guest on vmware to see how the

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:51 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mark Knecht did opine thusly: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP #370295 Zac responded (comment

[gentoo-user] Re: vmware opengl

2011-06-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/08/2011 12:17 AM, Matt Harrison wrote: [...] Well I eventually managed to get the vmwgfx gallium driver to compile, but I get an undefined symbol when trying to load it with xorg. I'll give up with it now unless anyone else has an idea. It was a nice thought that I might get to see the

[gentoo-user]

2011-06-07 Thread Abhishek Gupta
Hello We need to setup a local repository for Gentoo, to serve the needs of our Academic institution IIT Delhi, India. Please tell me where can we request the access to the master repository for setting up the Gentoo repository in our institution. -- Abhishek 3rd Year, CSE, IIT Delhi

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:39 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mark Knecht did opine thusly: I have no problem with saying someone needs to understand what less does. less isn't important. It's just the example at hand today. The 'problem' that I'm trying to get closer to answering is how

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 05:55:38AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with system set and depclean handling. It now shows this: !!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:39:34 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: What I didn't like about this issue popping up yesterday is that it altered the idea that average users never touch anything in @system. Iin fact, TTBOMK I've never in 11 or 12 years of running Gentoo ever done an emerge -C on a @system

Re: [gentoo-user]

2011-06-07 Thread David Abbott
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Abhishek Gupta cs1090...@cse.iitd.ernet.in wrote: Hello We need to setup a local repository for Gentoo, to serve the needs of our Academic institution IIT Delhi, India. Please tell me where can we request the access to the master repository for setting up the

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:08 on Wednesday 08 June 2011, Walter Dnes did opine thusly: On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 05:55:38AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: OK, now we're tracking. In the specific case of less, the answer is self-evident - it isn't needed. A dev would just know that. More likely, he would assume he knows that. In the general case, they suck their thumbs and guess. Some think more than others before they guess,

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 01:08 on Wednesday 08 June 2011, Walter Dnes did opine thusly: On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 05:55:38AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Latest

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:03 on Wednesday 08 June 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 01:08 on Wednesday 08 June 2011, Walter Dnes did opine thusly: On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 05:55:38AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote On Tue, Jun 7,

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:39:34 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:    What I didn't like about this issue popping up yesterday is that it altered the idea that average users never touch anything in @system. Iin fact, TTBOMK I've never

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:39 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mark Knecht did opine thusly:    I have no problem with saying someone needs to understand what less does. less isn't important. It's just the example at

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: That's what I thought until I moved to the kde profile, at which time it seems to about 80% of kde-meta became part of @system. Prior to switching to that profile I think @system as about 150 packages. Today it's 389: 2stable ~ # emerge -epv @system These are the packages

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: That's what I thought until I moved to the kde profile, at which time it seems to about 80% of kde-meta became part of @system. SNIP I complained about KDE stuff being in the system set long ago.  It is

[gentoo-user] IPv6 not ready here; Hmmm

2011-06-07 Thread Dale
Howdy, I got a link to this: http://www.worldipv6day.org/ From there, there is a link to test whether the new IPv6 works on my system and between me and the reat of the world. It appears I am not ready. It complained about the DNS server for the most part. Funny thing is, I use googles

Re: [gentoo-user] IPv6 not ready here; Hmmm

2011-06-07 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: Howdy, I got a link to this: http://www.worldipv6day.org/ From there, there is a link to test whether the new IPv6 works on my system and between me and the reat of the world. It appears I am not ready. It complained about the DNS server for the most part. Funny thing is, I

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: That's what I thought until I moved to the kde profile, at which time it seems to about 80% of kde-meta became part of @system. SNIP I complained about KDE stuff being

Re: [gentoo-user] IPv6 not ready here; Hmmm

2011-06-07 Thread Adam Carter
Actually, it is enabled already. Here is its complaint list: Test with IPv6 DNS record bad (0.261s) Works for me (asking for v6 record using v4 transport). I dont have v6 transport. /home/adam$ host -t www.google.com www.google.com is an alias for www.l.google.com. www.l.google.com

Re: [gentoo-user] IPv6 not ready here; Hmmm

2011-06-07 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 08 Jun 2011 03:18:47 Adam Carter wrote: Actually, it is enabled already. Here is its complaint list: Test with IPv6 DNS record bad (0.261s) Works for me (asking for v6 record using v4 transport). I dont have v6 transport. /home/adam$ host -t www.google.com