[gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/24/2011 10:18 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2011, 08:04:43 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 06/24/2011 01:16 AM, Dale wrote: If it works with fortran turned on, I'd leave it alone. With hindsight, I should have left well enough alone anyway. It wasn't hurting a

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 June 2011 11:31:50 Pandu Poluan did opine thusly: On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 05:00, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:43:02 +0200 (CEST), Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote: I solved the problem by rebuilding xf86-input-evdev after booting on an unbuntu livecd

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-25 Thread Alain DIDIERJEAN
- Mail Original - De: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk À: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Envoyé: Samedi 25 Juin 2011 00h00:30 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:43:02 +0200 (CEST), Alain

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject

2011-06-25 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:12:26 -0700 schrieb kashani kashani-l...@badapple.net: I've noticed this a couple of times this week. A few of you have responded to the annoying Fortran thread, changed the subject, started a new message, and sent the email starting a new thread. I have not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the minimal install isos

2011-06-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 24 June 2011 16:58:25 Mark Knecht wrote: As for Gentoo installs, IMHO, they are in a bit of a mess right now. Last weekend a friend decided to give Linux a try and I helped him install Gentoo. The tarballs still, after nearly a month I think, didn't include all the required /dev

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-25 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alan. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 04:57:05PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hmm. Recompiling the same source code produces a different binary? Not quite: Rebuilding the same sources against different headers produces a different binary. Presumably, it uses C macros in a .h file which is

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject

2011-06-25 Thread enno+gentoo
Hi, Am 25.06.2011 10:09, schrieb Marc Joliet: Am Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:12:26 -0700 schrieb kashani kashani-l...@badapple.net: Because you responded to an existing thread you are not creating a new thread and thus and reducing the size of the audience that reads your email. Specially I'd

Re: [gentoo-user] WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:18:57 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: But now that I tried booting, I think I'm missing some kind of driver from the kernel build... boot is not able to find my root on sda3. And has a kernel panic. I remember having a heck of a time about scuzy drivers last time too. A

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:29:12 -0500, Dale wrote: I guess my first post was correct after all. Enable fortran USE flag and keep things as it was before it got changed. It was working fine. Isn't that flag enabled by default? All you have yo do is not disable it. You seem to have

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:37:59 +0200 (CEST), Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote: 2.2, it's listed as ~*2.2.0_alpha41, too early for me. Thanks all for the help Don't let the ridiculous version number fool you, 2.2 has been generally usable for a couple of years. Oooops, I stupidly thought that

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 24 June 2011 11:43:48 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Adam. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 06:59:42PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:47 PM, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: After upgrading xcb, ati driver and rebooting xorg can't read mouse and keyboard anymore. No

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:29:12 -0500, Dale wrote: I guess my first post was correct after all. Enable fortran USE flag and keep things as it was before it got changed. It was working fine. Isn't that flag enabled by default? All you have yo do is not disable

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject

2011-06-25 Thread methylherd
Am Samstag, 25. Juni 2011, 10:09:17 schrieb Marc Joliet: Am Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:12:26 -0700 schrieb kashani kashani-l...@badapple.net: I've noticed this a couple of times this week. A few of you have responded to the annoying Fortran thread, changed the subject, started a new

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject

2011-06-25 Thread David W Noon
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:43:31 -0700, kashani wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject: [snip] My understanding is that the NNTP server was munging headers thereby creating new threads where it should have been a single thread. Your subject line reads

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread justin
justin That make sense? Dale :-) :-) Hi, as most of you do not like to have fortran enabled by default, we tried to find a way around. We created a virtual/fortran which should depend on a working fortran compiler so that only ebuilds which need fortran compiler will build

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/machine-id ???

2011-06-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:49 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I found a file /etc/machine-id on my linux box. I did a qfile for this and nothing was found. What purpose is that file and can I delete it without problems? Best regards, mcc I don't know about removing /etc/machine-id,

[gentoo-user] mISDNuser on kernel 2.6.38

2011-06-25 Thread Dan Johansson
Hi, Has anyone on this list successfully compiled and installed =mISDNuser-1.1.20 on their Gentoo-box running kernel 2.6.38 (or above). I have found some ebuild for this but it fails miserably (even fetches the wrong tar-file). So if you have an ebuild that works, could you pleas post it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 25 June 2011 13:46:35 justin wrote: I wasn't aware that there is no hierarchy in the dependencies in an ebuild and portage will choose a solution w/o a USE change first. That is the reason why many of you saw that ifc should be installed, instead of gcc with USE=fortran. That was

Re: [gentoo-user] chrome and everything

2011-06-25 Thread András Csányi
On 2 June 2011 11:21, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Chromium is not the problem, Flash is the problem. Flash is a piece of shit that has never worked right and Adobe are a bunch of fools that cannot code properly or securely. I can comfortably say this based on long hard

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, June 23 at 12:52 (-0400), Albert Hopkins said: I've uploaded a (390MB) vmdk. I've been told by someone that it works with vmware (not sure what version). This was build just a few minutes ago with the latest stage3 tarball and the latest portage snapshot.

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-25 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Good evening, Volker! On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 02:01:50PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 24 June 2011 11:43:48 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Adam. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 06:59:42PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:47 PM, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-25 Thread Dale
Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hmmm. Yes. The problem is not so much the reading, but that the pertinent text is only fleetingly on the screen. I'm quite sure I saw these warnings, but their seriousness didn't impinge on my consciousness. Sadly. Are these warnings stored in a log anywhere? Looking

Re: [gentoo-user] chrome and everything

2011-06-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 June 2011 18:38:10 András Csányi did opine thusly: On 2 June 2011 11:21, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Chromium is not the problem, Flash is the problem. Flash is a piece of shit that has never worked right and Adobe are a bunch of fools that cannot code

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject

2011-06-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 June 2011 13:47:15 Volker Armin Hemmann did opine thusly: On Saturday 25 June 2011 01:09:31 David W Noon wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:12:26 -0700, kashani wrote about [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject: I've noticed this a couple of times

Re: [gentoo-user] chrome and everything

2011-06-25 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: This will never change, because you can't pick up a turd by the clean end. ROFLMBO That is so true. I have to add. I subscribe to some service that emails security problems, usually when they are fixed but anyway. I get a LOT of those related to flash. If you

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 June 2011 09:50:15 Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: Hi, Alan. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 04:57:05PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hmm. Recompiling the same source code produces a different binary? Not quite: Rebuilding the same sources against different headers

Re: [gentoo-user] rootfs over lvm - /dev/mapper only populate control

2011-06-25 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Do you have dovlm in your boot parameters? If so and you still have trouble plesae open a bug for it including versions of relevant stuff, boot parameters etc. Best, Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 June 2011 14:46:35 justin did opine thusly: justin That make sense? Dale :-) :-) Hi, as most of you do not like to have fortran enabled by default, we tried to find a way around. We created a virtual/fortran which should depend on a working fortran compiler

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Samstag, 25. Juni 2011, 14:58:56 schrieb Peter Humphrey: Whether many operations are written in Fortran is immaterial. What matters to me is whether any on my system are. If they aren't, I don't need a Fortran compiler and I'd rather not waste system resources on building one. Try euse -I

Re: [gentoo-user] chrome and everything

2011-06-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 June 2011 13:39:33 Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: This will never change, because you can't pick up a turd by the clean end. ROFLMBO That is so true. I have to add. I subscribe to some service that emails security problems, usually when they are fixed but

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject

2011-06-25 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 08:32:46PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 25 June 2011 13:47:15 Volker Armin Hemmann did opine thusly: On Saturday 25 June 2011 01:09:31 David W Noon wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:12:26 -0700, kashani wrote about [gentoo-user] Don't start a new

Re: [gentoo-user] chrome and everything

2011-06-25 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Well there's a few options: Adobe could publish the entire Flash spec so that projects like gnash could implement them fully or the web could largely use something else instead like HTML5 Both options are unlikely, more's the pity I know HTML5 is a ways off but I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Feedback from the consumer end of the producer-consumer link :-) The motivation is fine and well, it didn't quite work out, we call this a bug. The only real mistake was trying to slipstream it in without notification or warning. devs all agree we should never do this,

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 25 June 2011 17:36:17 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Good evening, Volker! On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 02:01:50PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 24 June 2011 11:43:48 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Adam. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 06:59:42PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] chrome and everything

2011-06-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 June 2011 14:39:40 Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: Well there's a few options: Adobe could publish the entire Flash spec so that projects like gnash could implement them fully or the web could largely use something else instead like HTML5 Both options

[gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: I didn't think to get the right wording before rebooting into SystemRescueCD and am now chrooted into the vm again. Here are the boot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jun 2011 20:45:58 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Feedback from the consumer end of the producer-consumer link :-) The motivation is fine and well, it didn't quite work out, we call this a bug. The only real mistake was trying to slipstream it in without

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: I didn't think to get the right wording before rebooting into

[gentoo-user] Re: no cdrom (IDE)

2011-06-25 Thread walt
On 06/25/2011 03:32 PM, Alexey Mishustin wrote: Hi. After updating udev the links /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvd etc disappeared. There are four /dev/sgX but there is no /dev/srX at all. No hdX, all sdX are hard drives. That's a good thing. The disk drivers that use/need/create /dev/hd* are

[gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:18:57 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: But now that I tried booting, I think I'm missing some kind of driver from the kernel build... boot is not able to find my root on sda3. And has a kernel panic. I remember having a heck of a

[gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: Here's the kernel config from my 64-bit 2.6.38-gentoo-r3 VM Mark is that guest running in vmware or something else than Virtual Box. The guest that uses that kernel is running in Virtualbox-4.0.8. The host is a Gentoo64-bit system, 98% stable, 2%

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: Here's the kernel config from my 64-bit 2.6.38-gentoo-r3 VM Mark is that guest running in vmware or something else than Virtual Box. The guest that uses that kernel is running in

[gentoo-user] Re: no cdrom (IDE)

2011-06-25 Thread walt
On 06/25/2011 05:03 PM, walt wrote: On 06/25/2011 03:32 PM, Alexey Mishustin wrote: Hi. After updating udev the links /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvd etc disappeared. There are four /dev/sgX but there is no /dev/srX at all. No hdX, all sdX are hard drives. That's a good thing. The disk drivers that

[gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: I think we're not communicating then. The file I sent you was /usr/src/linux.config in the VM. It's not a file that VB would run, but rather a kernel config you might use to build a kernel to make your VM boot. That of course assumes that the hardware

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/25/2011 8:04 AM, Dale wrote: We restructured the dependency chain for fortran support, which includes a compile test now. The failure can be seen above. The Problem was in short, USE=fortran was enabled by default for linux arches, but people tend to disable it. Depending on gcc[fortran]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 14:45 -0500, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Feedback from the consumer end of the producer-consumer link :-) The motivation is fine and well, it didn't quite work out, we call this a bug. The only real mistake was trying to slipstream it in without

[gentoo-user] cups 1.3 - 1.4 no more avahi?

2011-06-25 Thread Michael George
I upgraded cups to 1.4.6 today and my Macs could no longer print to it. I looked and the avahi USE flag is gone, so I checked the avahi wiki page to see if some other flag should be used. That page said this: Zeroconf isn't enabled by default so you have to browse the CUPS admin