Re: [gentoo-user] swapping processor problem

2011-11-16 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
On 11/16/2011 08:34 AM, Dale wrote: I agree tho that checking those BIOS setting is a good start. If that fails, boot a CD or something, chroot in, do a emerge -e system. Maybe make some corrections to the kernel then try booting. Oh, I'd rebuild the input drivers to, mouse and

Re: [gentoo-user] swapping processor problem

2011-11-16 Thread Dale
Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 11/16/2011 08:34 AM, Dale wrote: I agree tho that checking those BIOS setting is a good start. If that fails, boot a CD or something, chroot in, do a emerge -e system. Maybe make some corrections to the kernel then try booting. Oh, I'd rebuild the input drivers

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading gcc: both 4.4 and 4.5 needed?

2011-11-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 16, 2011 2:15 PM, Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:07:12 Pandu Poluan wrote: And if you're adventurous, add USE graphite, reemerge gcc, and reemerge world :) Rgds, what does graphite add ? thanks It makes gcc-4.5.3 use a newer

Re: [gentoo-user] swapping processor problem

2011-11-16 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
On 11/16/2011 09:23 AM, Dale wrote: You could be right that it is a mobo CPU issue. When you are grasping at straws, just grab all you can. Yep, that's why I wrote about it here, I see very good suggestions on this list. Maybe check if there is a BIOS update available? Might be worth a

Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-16 Thread James Broadhead
Your user should be in plugdev, with the mountpoiny rwx by plugdev. I have root:plugdev rwxrwxr-x. I have more written, but I'm travellong atm. Use app-pda/ideviceinstaller -l to get AppIds then use ifuse --appid to mount Apps 'Documents' folders (to pass them music/videos/ebooks). I needed

Re: [gentoo-user] swapping processor problem

2011-11-16 Thread Dale
Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 11/16/2011 09:23 AM, Dale wrote: Maybe check if there is a BIOS update available? Might be worth a shot. I already upgraded the BIOS to have the dual-core CPU recognized, otherwise the kernel would not even start. There is yet another update on the ASUS site but

Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-16 Thread James Broadhead
On 16 November 2011 08:42, James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote: Your user should be in plugdev, with the mountpoiny rwx by plugdev. I have root:plugdev rwxrwxr-x. Oh, and run ifuse as the user, not as root :)

Re: [gentoo-user] swapping processor problem

2011-11-16 Thread James Broadhead
On 16 November 2011 08:55, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 11/16/2011 09:23 AM, Dale wrote: Maybe check if there is a BIOS update available?  Might be worth a shot. I already upgraded the BIOS to have the dual-core CPU recognized, otherwise the kernel would not

Re: [gentoo-user] swapping processor problem

2011-11-16 Thread Dale
James Broadhead wrote: On 16 November 2011 08:55, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 11/16/2011 09:23 AM, Dale wrote: Maybe check if there is a BIOS update available? Might be worth a shot. I already upgraded the BIOS to have the dual-core CPU recognized, otherwise

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-11-16 01:20, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:51:44 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I play with the thought of getting myself a nice new machine for work, better to spend some money on hardware than on taxes (2012 is near ...). My thoughts exactly. Same world ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro

2011-11-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:45:45 -0200, Érico Porto wrote: is it possible to install lightDM (ubuntu 11.10) in gentoo? It's in portage, so I suppose the answer has to be yes. PS please do not top-post. PPS Sorry for nicking your tagline Alan ;-) -- Neil Bothwick I'm not opinionated, I'm just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:56:39 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Very often one looks back a year after and regrets I should have chosen the bigger CPU, more RAM, whatever I will decide the RAM-issue when I order. That's why I switched the money from RAM to CPU. If I want more RAM I can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro

2011-11-16 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:45:45 -0200, Érico Porto wrote: is it possible to install lightDM (ubuntu 11.10) in gentoo? It's in portage, so I suppose the answer has to be yes. PS please do not top-post. PPS Sorry for nicking your tagline Alan ;-) I sure did misread that

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev?

2011-11-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 07:52, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Nov 16, 2011 3:21 AM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:  The more scenarios we can test, the better.  mdev might shave a second  or two off the VM's bootup time, versus udev. Okay, I have two staging VMs on XenServer and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro

2011-11-16 Thread Lars Madson
Coming from Gentoo, I'll recommend Arch Linux, a Gentoo with binariespure sugar. Laurent 2011/11/16 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:45:45 -0200, Érico Porto wrote: is it possible to install lightDM (ubuntu 11.10) in gentoo? It's in portage, so I

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev?

2011-11-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 07:52, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Nov 16, 2011 3:21 AM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:  The more scenarios we can test, the better.  mdev might shave a second  or two off the VM's bootup time, versus udev. Okay, I have two staging VMs on XenServer and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.11.2011 11:09, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:56:39 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Very often one looks back a year after and regrets I should have chosen the bigger CPU, more RAM, whatever I will decide the RAM-issue when I order. That's why I switched the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:11:25 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: You only upgrade CPU and board now and re-use cooling etc ? Why not? The cooling I have is already more than my CPU needs and, most importantly, is extremely quiet. The loudest noise on my PC is the hard drive stepper motors. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-11-16 12:25, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:11:25 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: You only upgrade CPU and board now and re-use cooling etc ? Why not? The cooling I have is already more than my CPU needs and, most importantly, is extremely quiet. The loudest

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading gcc: both 4.4 and 4.5 needed?

2011-11-16 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 03:29:27PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: what does graphite add ? It makes gcc-4.5.3 use a newer method to detect parallelism, thus (potentially) makes programs compiled by gcc to have better multithreaded performance. Now, why can't the USE descriptions be like the

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading gcc: both 4.4 and 4.5 needed?

2011-11-16 Thread Alex Schuster
Jarry writes: On 15-Nov-11 20:36, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 13:58, Jarrymr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: today I upgraded gcc from 4.4.5 to the last stable version But at the and I noticed gcc 4.4 has not been unmerged and my world file is somehow larger. To my surprise, it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading gcc: both 4.4 and 4.5 needed?

2011-11-16 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 08:30 -0500, Willie Wong wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 03:29:27PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: what does graphite add ? It makes gcc-4.5.3 use a newer method to detect parallelism, thus (potentially) makes programs compiled by gcc to have better multithreaded

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading gcc: both 4.4 and 4.5 needed?

2011-11-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 16, 2011 2:26 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:07:12 Pandu Poluan wrote: And if you're adventurous, add USE graphite, reemerge gcc, and reemerge world :) what

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread masterprometheus
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I ask myself if I need the K-version at all, I don't want to overclock No, if you're not going to overclock the K version is not needed. Did you also consider the newer i7-2700k? Maybe too expensive because it's so new. And I assume it's not that much

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-11-16 16:22, schrieb masterprometheus: Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I ask myself if I need the K-version at all, I don't want to overclock No, if you're not going to overclock the K version is not needed. But as far as I read reviews online it is easy and rather safe to do so

Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:21 AM, James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 November 2011 08:42, James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote: Your user should be in plugdev, with the mountpoiny rwx by plugdev. I have root:plugdev rwxrwxr-x. Oh, and run ifuse as the user, not as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 2011-11-16 16:22, schrieb masterprometheus: The 2700K is nothing different than the 2600K. The only plus is a 100 MHz frequency boost. Not worth the extra $70 over a 2600/2600K. Yep. So Intel noticed wow, we get a

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread masterprometheus
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 2011-11-16 16:22, schrieb masterprometheus: Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I ask myself if I need the K-version at all, I don't want to overclock No, if you're not going to overclock the K version is not needed. But as far as I read reviews online it is

[gentoo-user] sdhc card on eeepc701 running gentoo

2011-11-16 Thread Érico Porto
Hello, I'm having lots of hardware error current when trying to use a sdhc card (transcend 16GB) on my eeepc701. I have never used any card on gentoo before, but I have used with success previously in Ubuntu. Is there some know bug? Also, only sometimes I get a device at /dev/sdb and couldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.11.2011 17:00, schrieb Michael Mol: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 2011-11-16 16:22, schrieb masterprometheus: The 2700K is nothing different than the 2600K. The only plus is a 100 MHz frequency boost. Not worth the extra $70 over a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.11.2011 19:05, schrieb masterprometheus: Oh I would definitly do that (overclock it I mean). But if there isn't someone with the same name, you've said : I ask myself if I need the K-version at all, I don't want to overclock ... Change of heart ? Understandable as these CPUs are

Re: [gentoo-user] sdhc card on eeepc701 running gentoo

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Érico Porto ericoporto2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm having lots of hardware error current when trying to use a sdhc card (transcend 16GB) on my eeepc701. I have never used any card on gentoo before, but I have used with success previously in Ubuntu. Is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:05:55 +0200, masterprometheus wrote: Yep. So Intel noticed wow, we get a few of them which run stable even at 100MHz more, let's sell them for some more money ;-) True but Intel's MSRP was just $10-15 more than a 2600K. Vendors decided to up the price a bit. Not

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading gcc: both 4.4 and 4.5 needed?

2011-11-16 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Jarry writes: On 15-Nov-11 20:36, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 13:58, Jarrymr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: today I upgraded gcc from 4.4.5 to the last stable version But at the and I noticed gcc 4.4 has not been unmerged and my world file is somehow larger.

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading gcc: both 4.4 and 4.5 needed?

2011-11-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP root@fireball / # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep kwrite kde-base/kwrite root@fireball / # Is this a bug?  Just because you update a package doesn't mean you want it in the world file. Maybe a I need to set

Re: [gentoo-user] sdhc card on eeepc701 running gentoo

2011-11-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Érico Porto ericoporto2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm having lots of hardware error current when trying to use a sdhc card (transcend 16GB) on my eeepc701. I have never used any card on gentoo before, but I have used with success previously in Ubuntu. Is

[gentoo-user] trouble installing help2man on new gentoo box

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
I am reinstalling gentoo on a Dell inspiron 6400 laptop I am (again) using lvm2. I just built the kernel and then (following the lvm2 guide) tried emerge lvm2 This required a build of help2man, which failed with Configuring source in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.11.2011 20:23, schrieb Neil Bothwick: True but Intel's MSRP was just $10-15 more than a 2600K. Vendors decided to up the price a bit. Not uncommon with new products. That makes sense, if the old version is only a tenner less than the new one, no one would buy it, so they get

Re: [gentoo-user] sdhc card on eeepc701 running gentoo

2011-11-16 Thread Érico Porto
it is a 16GB class 10 Transcend, but the eeepc uses a usb card reader inside of it - no mmc I think. Actually, the first thing I tried to do with it was to format to ext2, and then the formating proccess frozed in the middle of it.. I've tried to load it in a windows pc after but couldn't read,

Re: [gentoo-user] sdhc card on eeepc701 running gentoo

2011-11-16 Thread Dale
Érico Porto wrote: it is a 16GB class 10 Transcend, but the eeepc uses a usb card reader inside of it - no mmc I think. Actually, the first thing I tried to do with it was to format to ext2, and then the formating proccess frozed in the middle of it.. I've tried to load it in a windows pc

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble installing help2man on new gentoo box--Solved: too fancy with symlinks/mounts

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Nov 16 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I am reinstalling gentoo on a Dell inspiron 6400 laptop I am (again) using lvm2. I just built the kernel and then (following the lvm2 guide) tried emerge lvm2 This required a build of help2man, which failed with Configuring source in

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble installing help2man on new gentoo box--Solved: too fancy with symlinks/mounts

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Mol
Rebind mount? On Nov 16, 2011 5:45 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Nov 16 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I am reinstalling gentoo on a Dell inspiron 6400 laptop I am (again) using lvm2. I just built the kernel and then (following the lvm2 guide) tried emerge lvm2

Re: CRTs and EDID (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev?

2011-11-16 Thread waltdnes
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 09:53:47AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote Just an FYI, EDID blocks have been part of CRT tech since the mid to late 90s; it's the basis of plug play monitors. IIRC, the EDID block is transported via DDC, which is essentially I2C implemented on top of your VGA cable. I've

Re: CRTs and EDID (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev?

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Mol
On 11/16/2011 06:20 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 09:53:47AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote Just an FYI, EDID blocks have been part of CRT tech since the mid to late 90s; it's the basis of plug play monitors. IIRC, the EDID block is transported via DDC, which is

Re: [gentoo-user] sdhc card on eeepc701 running gentoo

2011-11-16 Thread Érico Porto
hdparm -i /dev/sdb gives me SG_IO: bad/missing sense data sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 24 00 (00.. HDIO_GET_IDENDITY failed: Invalid argument I think I will try to use my warranty... Érico V. Porto On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Érico Porto

Re: [gentoo-user] sdhc card on eeepc701 running gentoo

2011-11-16 Thread Érico Porto
one thing I don't get is why I can see /dev/sdb1 when I type fdisk and press p, but that isn't listed when I type ls /dev/sd* Érico V. Porto On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Érico Porto ericoporto2...@gmail.comwrote: hdparm -i /dev/sdb gives me SG_IO: bad/missing sense data sb[]: 70 00 05

Re: [gentoo-user] sdhc card on eeepc701 running gentoo

2011-11-16 Thread Érico Porto
one thing I noted, is that I'm having buffer i/o error on logical block 3939582. Is it possible to at least use the position before this? Érico V. Porto On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Érico Porto ericoporto2...@gmail.comwrote: one thing I don't get is why I can see /dev/sdb1 when I type

Re: [gentoo-user] sdhc card on eeepc701 running gentoo

2011-11-16 Thread Dale
Érico Porto wrote: one thing I noted, is that I'm having buffer i/o error on logical block 3939582. Is it possible to at least use the position before this? Érico V. Porto I had sort of the same problem with a hard drive a few weeks ago. I got the data off and a day or so later, it died.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:33:24 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I think i7-2600k is the sweet spot right now. It's working nicely for me. I can't believe the difference in compile times, it's almost like using a binary distro. What board did you choose? Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 It seemed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:33:24 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I think i7-2600k is the sweet spot right now. It's working nicely for me. I can't believe the difference in compile times, it's almost like using a binary

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble installing help2man on new gentoo box--Solved: too fancy with symlinks/mounts

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Nov 16 2011, Michael Mol wrote: Rebind mount? I was thinking of reading the details of bind mounting, but decided I spent/wasted enough time trying to have a clean system with all mounting at /mnt. If your suggestion meant that usr would be mounted at both / and /mnt, I don't see that

[gentoo-user] LVM and LABELS in fstab

2011-11-16 Thread Dale
OK. I jumped into LVM. I took my spare drive, put it to use with LVM. Then copied data from my super large drive to it and backed up some to DVDs that wouldn't fit. Then I put the big drive on LVM and put the stuff back. Now comes the problem. I use LABELS in fstab and would like to

Re: [gentoo-user] sdhc card on eeepc701 running gentoo

2011-11-16 Thread fenlo
Hello, I would guess the internal reader don't work properly for such modern cards. Especially for the 701 there exist some reports about similar problems. You may try on another (external) sd-card-reader which is specified for class 10 cards. Steffen. Am 16.11.2011 19:32, schrieb Érico

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM and LABELS in fstab

2011-11-16 Thread Manuel McLure
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: OK.  I jumped into LVM.  I took my spare drive, put it to use with LVM.  Then copied data from my super large drive to it and backed up some to DVDs that wouldn't fit.  Then I put the big drive on LVM and put the stuff back.  

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM and LABELS in fstab

2011-11-16 Thread Dale
Manuel McLure wrote: You should be able to use e2label (or tune2fs -L as I do) on the /dev/data/data1 device to set the filesystem label. That's the logical volume that the operating system needs to mount. # tune2fs -L mylabel /dev/data/data1 should do what you need. I haven't done this with