Re: [gentoo-user] Slow not in sync movie playing with mplayer2, ffmpeg, x264 with intel core i5

2012-02-19 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 06:57:08PM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote No, it is all the videos that are 720p x264. Is this a recently installed Gentoo? I had a similar problem trying to play 1080i TV and also with NHL

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-19 Thread Mick
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 03:09:28 ny6...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:28:44PM -0800, Grant wrote: I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm loving it. What would you recommend for getting away from thunderbird? I'm looking for something simple and

Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Thanasis
on 02/18/2012 06:57 PM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:30:23 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone set up lightdm?  I'm using it with the default config file but I get a black screen with no error in Xorg.0.log.  gdm works fine. Any ideas? - Grant I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:40:48 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm loving it.  What would you recommend for getting away from thunderbird?  I'm looking for something simple and minimal. - Grant claws-mail

[gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove packages which emerge evaluates as obsoloted and no longe in use). How can I acchieve this? Thank you very much for any help in advance! Have a nce sunday! Best

Re: [gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:32 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove packages which emerge evaluates as obsoloted and no longe in use). How can I acchieve this?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Mick
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 00:30:23 Grant wrote: Has anyone set up lightdm? I'm using it with the default config file but I get a black screen with no error in Xorg.0.log. gdm works fine. Any ideas? - Grant I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart

Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil?

Re: [gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?

2012-02-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:32 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove packages which emerge evaluates as obsoloted and no longe in use). How can I acchieve this? emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Mick
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and

[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Thanasis: on 02/18/2012 06:57 PM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. Yes. Perhaps i should consider

Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:26:57 +, Mick wrote: * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil? Intel(R) Core(TM)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:50:47 +0100 Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote: Thanasis: on 02/18/2012 06:57 PM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge

Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Meik Frischke
Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2012, 12:26:57 schrieb Mick: On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012

[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge: Perhaps i should consider using the source myself, because of hafi@i5_64 ~ $ loffice /usr/bin/loffice: line 2: 12258 Illegal instruction /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice $@ which i just got with an i5. Should i? That would give me these new packages Calculating

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Again about a gentoo vm appliance for vbox

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:36:29 -0500 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Alan responded: Try this. Attached is a .config for 2.6.39 that works and boots just fine in a default VBox vm using AHCI SATA controller as provided by vbox. [...] Thanks for posting the .config. I didn't

[gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer
Hi After an emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp I got this output. What does the line with cxx? want say to me? These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies / !!! Problem resolving dependencies for

Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:48 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi After an    emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp I got this output. What does the line with cxx? want say to me?    These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:    Calculating

Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread Jarry
I have seen this message yesterday. Just add dev-libs/beecrypt threads to /etc/portage/package.use and you'll be fine... Jarry On 19-Feb-12 15:18, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies / !!! Problem

Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Mick
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 12:57:51 Meik Frischke wrote: Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2012, 12:26:57 schrieb Mick: On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice

Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Alecks Gates
I would be curious to see the results of compiling libreoffice with PORTAGE_TMPDIR on btrfs with compress=lzo. On Feb 19, 2012 9:37 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 12:57:51 Meik Frischke wrote: Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2012, 12:26:57 schrieb Mick: On Sunday 19

Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer
Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com [12-02-19 15:32]: I have seen this message yesterday. Just add dev-libs/beecrypt threads to /etc/portage/package.use and you'll be fine... Jarry On 19-Feb-12 15:18, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:18:28 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi After an emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp I got this output. What does the line with cxx? want say to me? These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:48:29 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: cxx? ( threads ) Thanks a lot for your help! I was unsure about this cause of the question mark after cxx... It's a conditional, it basically means if

[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge: libreoffice-bin doesn't require the above packages. Perhaps it failes therefore? *g* No. I had emerged them with oneshot to test that and to avoid, that emerging them would count to the time required to emerge libreoffice. Here are the results for my machine. Intel(R) Core(TM) i5

Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x

2012-02-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]: In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to Neil. I don't believe Neil has responded yet but Meino's

[gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-02-18, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm loving it. What would you recommend for getting away from thunderbird? I'm looking for something simple and minimal. mutt

[gentoo-user] libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Greetings, after emerging libreoffice-3.4.5.2 i tried getting the help of libreoffice by pressing F1. No luck, something flashed shortly on the xterm resulting in several blank lines. Trying 'loffice | tee so-log.txt' gave this: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/lo120219-2.png (18 KB) Not

Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]: In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 02/19/12 11:02, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-18, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm loving it. What would you recommend for getting away from thunderbird? I'm looking for something simple and minimal. mutt I

[gentoo-user] [OT] Proxytunnel through nginx

2012-02-19 Thread Mick
Hi All, I am trying to set up a reverse-proxy at my home to be able to by-pass restrictive firewalls that only allow http/https traffic. So I configured nginx as a reverse-proxy to send connections to the sshd at the home server. However, I fail to establish a connection. The connection

Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x

2012-02-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:37 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]: In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble

Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 19:56]: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:37 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]: In a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Grant
Has anyone set up lightdm?  I'm using it with the default config file but I get a black screen with no error in Xorg.0.log.  gdm works fine. Any ideas? - Grant I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen.  I had to

Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x

2012-02-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 19:56]: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:37 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

[gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-19 Thread Grant
Has anyone found a screen locker they like? I'd like to move away from xscreensaver. It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for me anymore. slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails with: !!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED! !!! Reason:

Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Philip Webb
120219 Hartmut Figge wrote: after emerging libreoffice-3.4.5.2 i tried getting help by pressing F1. No luck, something flashed shortly on the xterm resulting in several blank lines. i was told to use the useflag java Grudgingly, because that would install another 44 packages, i have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2012-02-18 23:15, schrieb Grant: I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen. I had to emerge xterm to make it work BTW. Could someone point out what is bad about gdm? Does it matter that much? What advantages does it have

[gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-19 Thread walt
On 02/18/2012 05:18 AM, Dale wrote: Sounds like the internet could be switched off. So, next question, how easy would it be to get it going again? Hours? Days? Weeks? My guess is that the old farts that read this list could have their old dialup bulletin boards back on line in a day.

[gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-19 Thread walt
On 02/18/2012 08:35 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: * On March 8 the FBI will turn off their stand-in DNS servers. The FBI has people that know how to run a DNS server? I feel better about my tax dollars now ;) Oh, wait, I'll bet they outsource it to Google.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/18/2012 05:18 AM, Dale wrote: Sounds like the internet could be switched off.  So, next question, how easy would it be to get it going again?  Hours?  Days?  Weeks? My guess is that the old farts that read this list could

[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread walt
On 02/19/2012 08:33 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Greetings, after emerging libreoffice-3.4.5.2 i tried getting the help of libreoffice by pressing F1. No luck, something flashed shortly on the xterm resulting in several blank lines. Trying 'loffice | tee so-log.txt' gave this:

[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Philip Webb: lack of internal help for LO was the only thing which disappeared. My solution was to download the LO help files from their site (PDFs), which are actually easier to read + search than the internal help. Isn't the help context-sensitive? Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki

[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
walt: The Help function (on my machines) displays help.libreoffice.org in my web browser. I have assumed, that the browser would be used, but i couldn't find a place in libreoffice, in which i could tell it, *what* my browser is. And if libreoffice cannot found the browser... ;) Running

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-19 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/18/2012 05:18 AM, Dale wrote: Sounds like the internet could be switched off. So, next question, how easy would it be to get it going again? Hours? Days? Weeks? My guess is that the old farts that

[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge: How to tell libreoffice which browser it should use? Assuming that nowadays Firefox is used by many people i experimented. hafi@i5_64 ~ $ sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/affe /usr/bin/firefox 'affe' is the name of my browser which in reality is a daily compiled trunk-seamonkey with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Grant
I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen.  I had to emerge xterm to make it work BTW. Could someone point out what is bad about gdm? Does it matter that much? What advantages does it have to use lightdm/slim/something

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 2012-02-18 23:15, schrieb Grant: I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen.  I had to emerge xterm to make it work BTW. Could someone point out

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Grant
I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen.  I had to emerge xterm to make it work BTW. Could someone point out what is bad about gdm? Does it matter that much? What advantages does it have to use lightdm/slim/something

[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge: But first i should look into that ominous xdg-open. 'man xdg-open' didn't help much, but xdg-open is part of xdg-utils. And there is e.g. xdg-settings. Looking into 'man xdg-settings' and then hafi@i5_64 ~ $ xdg-settings --list Known properties: default-url-scheme-handler

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-19 Thread wdk@moriah
On 20/02/2012, at 5:14, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/18/2012 08:35 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: * On March 8 the FBI will turn off their stand-in DNS servers. The FBI has people that know how to run a DNS server? I feel better about my tax dollars now ;) Oh, wait, I'll bet they

Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-19 Thread Willie Matthews
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:19 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a screen locker they like? I'd like to move away from xscreensaver. It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for me anymore. slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails

Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-19 Thread Grant
Has anyone found a screen locker they like?  I'd like to move away from xscreensaver.  It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for me anymore. slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails with: !!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED! !!!

Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-19 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a screen locker they like?  I'd like to move away from xscreensaver.  It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for me anymore. slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails with:

Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-19 Thread ny6p01
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 07:15:17PM -0500, Joshua Murphy wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a screen locker they like?  I'd like to move away from xscreensaver.  It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for me anymore. slimlock

Re: [gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?

2012-02-19 Thread Willie Matthews
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:44:58 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:32 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove

[gentoo-user] Downgrading gcc

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I want to downgrade gcc from 4.5.3-r1 to 4.4.5. The Gentoo gcc UPgrade guide tells me, that ABI are only upward compatible which implies problems when downgrading and not upgrading. Nonetheless a downgrade is needed here and I want to go to gcc-4.4.5. How can I acchieve this in a clean

[gentoo-user] Re: Downgrading gcc

2012-02-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 20/02/12 06:20, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I want to downgrade gcc from 4.5.3-r1 to 4.4.5. The Gentoo gcc UPgrade guide tells me, that ABI are only upward compatible which implies problems when downgrading and not upgrading. Nonetheless a downgrade is needed here and I want to go to

Re: [gentoo-user] Downgrading gcc

2012-02-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
Just re-emerge the older version e.g. emerge =...gcc-4.4.5 (... is the category). Then use eselect gcc or gcc-config to select the active gcc version. CMIIW Rgds, On Feb 20, 2012 11:24 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I want to downgrade gcc from 4.5.3-r1 to 4.4.5. The Gentoo gcc

[gentoo-user] Re: Downgrading gcc

2012-02-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 20/02/12 06:38, Pandu Poluan wrote: Just re-emerge the older version e.g. emerge =...gcc-4.4.5 (... is the category). Then use eselect gcc or gcc-config to select the active gcc version. It's better to emerge it by using its slot: emerge gcc:4.4 so you can get updates normally for that

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-19 Thread Fuzz
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 20:30 -0500, Michael Trausch wrote: I liked Claws when I used it before. If you really want lightweight, though, try mutt, which is a terminal-based mail program that supports OpenPGP and IMAP. There is also a new option, but it is written in Ruby and is therefore not