[gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Dale
Hi, As some know, I'm planning to buy me a LARGE hard drive to put all my videos on, eventually. The prices are coming down now. I keep seeing these green drives that are made by just about every company nowadays. When comparing them to a non green drive, do they hold up as good? Are they as

[gentoo-user] Read your cups-1.5 elog!

2012-05-09 Thread Grant
Just thought I'd remind everyone to read their cups-1.5 elog when upgrading from 1.4. It's necessary to either disable the usb USE flag or disable USB Printer support in the kernel in order for USB printers to work after the upgrade. I just figured that out this morning after working on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 09 May 2012 03:47:09 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As some know, I'm planning to buy me a LARGE hard drive to put all my videos on, eventually. The prices are coming down now. I keep seeing these green drives that are made by just about every company nowadays. When

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed, 09 May 2012 03:47:09 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As some know, I'm planning to buy me a LARGE hard drive to put all my videos on, eventually. The prices are coming down now. I keep seeing these green drives that are made by just about every

Re: [gentoo-user] ssh stalls - please help

2012-05-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 8 May 2012 09:09:28 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: The problem is caused by the server running openssh-0.6_p1 with the hpn USE flag, which is enabled by default. Either downgrade to 5.x or re-emerge with USE=-hpn. I did the latter and everything is working as it should now. The bug

[gentoo-user] why is it using OpenDNS?

2012-05-09 Thread Grant
One of my systems is using OpenDNS: # cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 # cat /etc/conf.d/net config_wlan0=192.168.0.2 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 routes_wlan0=default via 192.168.0.1 and I can't figure out why. Does anyone know why this is

Re: [gentoo-user] why is it using OpenDNS?

2012-05-09 Thread Willie Matthews
Try appending this into your /etc/conf.d/net dns_servers_wlan0=208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 with or without quotes and brackets I am not really sure. dns_servers_wlan0=( 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 ) Hope this helps! On 05/09/12 03:36, Grant wrote: One of my systems is using

Re: [gentoo-user] ssh stalls - please help

2012-05-09 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 05/09/2012 11:56:45 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 8 May 2012 09:09:28 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: The problem is caused by the server running openssh-0.6_p1 with the hpn USE flag, which is enabled by default. Either downgrade to 5.x or re-emerge with USE=-hpn. I did the latter and

[gentoo-user] mplayer2 idle CPU condumption

2012-05-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there! When you pause mplayer2 playing any kind of video, does its process also use 100% of one of your cores? I think this is weird. I'm switching back to mplayer. Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Daniel Troeder
I'm using big WD Caviar Green (WDxxEAxx) SATA HDDs for some years now in my home 24/7 server, and haven't had any issues - they run cool and low-noise, and the performance is good. Low power and heat was what was important for me when choosing. HDD performance isn't an issue anyway, when storing

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-05-09 4:47 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: As some know, I'm planning to buy me a LARGE hard drive to put all my videos on, eventually. The prices are coming down now. I keep seeing these green drives that are made by just about every company nowadays. When comparing them to a

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Dale
Daniel Troeder wrote: I'm using big WD Caviar Green (WDxxEAxx) SATA HDDs for some years now in my home 24/7 server, and haven't had any issues - they run cool and low-noise, and the performance is good. Low power and heat was what was important for me when choosing. HDD performance isn't an

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 05/09/2012 07:47 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: As long as you don't use them in any kind of RAID setup you they should be fine. The biggest difference between them and 'enterprise' class drives is the enterprise class drives are designed for multi-drive RAID setups... you don't want drives to

[gentoo-user] Re: mplayer2 idle CPU condumption

2012-05-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/05/12 14:31, Alex Schuster wrote: When you pause mplayer2 playing any kind of video, does its process also use 100% of one of your cores? Nope.

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-05-09 4:47 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: As some know, I'm planning to buy me a LARGE hard drive to put all my videos on, eventually.  The prices are coming down now.  I keep seeing these green drives

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2012, 03:47:09 schrieb Dale: Hi, As some know, I'm planning to buy me a LARGE hard drive to put all my videos on, eventually. The prices are coming down now. I keep seeing these green drives that are made by just about every company nowadays. When comparing them to a

Re: [gentoo-user] Read your cups-1.5 elog!

2012-05-09 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Just thought I'd remind everyone to read their cups-1.5 elog when upgrading from 1.4.  It's necessary to either disable the usb USE flag or disable USB Printer support in the kernel in order for USB printers to work after the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mplayer2 idle CPU condumption

2012-05-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Nikos Chantziaras writes: On 09/05/12 14:31, Alex Schuster wrote: When you pause mplayer2 playing any kind of video, does its process also use 100% of one of your cores? Nope. Thanks. Another thing that happens to me only. I filed a bug about this:

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-05-09 8:06 AM, m...@trausch.us m...@trausch.us wrote: AFAIK, the only technical difference between a consumer drive and an enterprise one is that the enterprise one doesn't tell lies. Or at least, it isn't supposed to. There's a bit more to it than that...

Re: [gentoo-user] ssh stalls - please help

2012-05-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 09 May 2012 13:29:26 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: The bug report at https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414401 now contains another solution. Leave hpn enabled but set TcpRcvBufPoll to no in sshd_config. I've tried this and it seems to work. Now we just need to find

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Pandu Poluan
On May 9, 2012 7:36 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: As for RAID, +100 to not use them. The WD Green drives do not support time-limited error recovery (TLER) and spin down based on their view of trying to save power. For me anyway they simply didn't work well in any RAID

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On May 9, 2012 7:36 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: As for RAID, +100 to not use them. The WD Green drives do not support time-limited error recovery (TLER) and spin down based on their view of trying to save

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: The best answer at the time was some piece of low level software from WD called something like wdtwiddle or something WDTLER :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: The best answer at the time was some piece of low level software from WD called something like wdtwiddle or something WDTLER  :) Hey, I

[gentoo-user] Missing perl File-FcntlLock / debhelper (dh_gencontrol) fails

2012-05-09 Thread Hans Müller
Hello, after some time I have to rebuild some debian packages using the debhelper scripts and recognized the following error: 'dh_gencontrol' fails with missing File/FcntlLock.pm: $ dpkg-buildpackage -b -d ... dh_gencontrol Can't locate File/FcntlLock.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote: Mark Knecht writes: OK, fire up two terminals. In one run top, hit 1 z so you see all your CPUs and then watch CPU usage. In the second terminal su to root and run iotop -o. Now, watch for a few minutes and get a feel for what's going on when video is not running. Then

[gentoo-user] quick question on ALSA_CARDS

2012-05-09 Thread Doug Hunley
My SB Live! 5.1 sang its last note finally, so I'm reverting to the onboard Intel chip. I got my kernel configured already, but when I went to edit make.conf, I became confused on which of the following is correct: ALSA_CARDS=snd-hda-intel or ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel I googled it and, of course,

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 May 2012 21:44:19 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: I guess I could remove anything running on my KDE desktop one by one, including plasmoids, and see if playback gets better. But not now, I finally have to actually do some work. I recently experienced slowdowns and delays with KDE. It

[gentoo-user] Re: quick question on ALSA_CARDS

2012-05-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/05/12 23:10, Doug Hunley wrote: My SB Live! 5.1 sang its last note finally, so I'm reverting to the onboard Intel chip. I got my kernel configured already, but when I went to edit make.conf, I became confused on which of the following is correct: ALSA_CARDS=snd-hda-intel or

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 09 May 2012 04:52:57 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking the same thing about the speed and them lasting longer because of the slower speed. I mean, it's less wear and less heat. I'd just hate to buy one and it be a piece of junk or something else I wasn't expecting

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing perl File-FcntlLock / debhelper (dh_gencontrol) fails

2012-05-09 Thread Stroller
On 9 May 2012, at 19:59, Hans Müller wrote: ... after some time I have to rebuild some debian packages using the debhelper scripts and recognized the following error: 'dh_gencontrol' fails with missing File/FcntlLock.pm: $ dpkg-buildpackage -b -d ... dh_gencontrol Can't locate

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed, 09 May 2012 04:52:57 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking the same thing about the speed and them lasting longer because of the slower speed. I mean, it's less wear and less heat. I'd just hate to buy one and it be a piece of junk or something

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2012, 03:47:09 schrieb Dale: Hi, As some know, I'm planning to buy me a LARGE hard drive to put all my videos on, eventually. The prices are coming down now. I keep seeing these green drives that are made by just about every company nowadays.

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:  It doesn't matter what brand you go with Especially true since there are only 2 companies actually making consumer hard drives anymore: WD and Seagate. Both of them seem to know what they are doing, for the most part... Some hard

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: SNIP My thoughts these days is that nobody really makes a bad drive anymore. Like cars[1], they're all good and do what it says on the box. Same with bikes[2]. A manufacturer may have some bad luck and a

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't matter what brand you go with Especially true since there are only 2 companies actually making consumer hard drives anymore: WD and Seagate. Both of them seem to know what they are doing, for

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: SNIP My thoughts these days is that nobody really makes a bad drive anymore. Like cars[1], they're all good and do what it says on the box. Same with bikes[2]. A manufacturer may have

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Neil Bothwick writes: On Wed, 9 May 2012 21:44:19 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: I guess I could remove anything running on my KDE desktop one by one, including plasmoids, and see if playback gets better. But not now, I finally have to actually do some work. I recently experienced

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Pandu Poluan
On May 10, 2012 6:54 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't matter what brand you go with Especially true since there are only 2 companies actually making consumer hard drives anymore: WD and

Re: [gentoo-user] Are those green drives any good?

2012-05-09 Thread Adam Carter
Way back in the stone age, there was a guy that released a curve for electronics life.  The failure rate is high at the beginning, especially for the first few minutes, then falls to about nothing, then after several years it goes back up again. That concept is much more general than just

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Neil Bothwick writes: On Wed, 9 May 2012 21:44:19 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: I guess I could remove anything running on my KDE desktop one by one, including plasmoids, and see if playback gets better. But not now, I finally have to actually do some work. I recently

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Adam Carter
Is there a way to find out what is using swap?  Maybe something related to the video is on swap which at times can be slow, certainly slower than ram. I have always wondered how to find this out myself. Well the OS uses swap, i dont know if its possible to then tie that directly to a

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Adam Carter
There's plenty of swap space available. With 16 G of RAM it should not be needed, but sometimes my load gets really really high, and when I can use the system again, there is 2-3 G of swap usage. I haven't found out yet what this is, it seems to happen when emerging things, maybe related to