Keeping all of the laptops 100% identical as far as hardware is
central to this plan. I know I'm setting myself up for big problems
otherwise.
I'm hoping I can emerge every package on my laptop that every other
laptop needs. That way I can fix any build problems and update any
config
Hello Mates,
I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this issue:
I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I cannot
log in to gnome as a normal user, I can only log in to gnome as root.
What I have done before this started:
emerge -uDvaN world
Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I think all I really need
is something to manage config file differences and user accounts. At
this point I'm thinking I shouldn't push packages themselves, but
portage config files and then let each laptop emerge unattended based
on those
On 01/10/2013 08:07, Grant wrote:
Keeping all of the laptops 100% identical as far as hardware is
central to this plan. I know I'm setting myself up for big problems
otherwise.
I'm hoping I can emerge every package on my laptop that every other
laptop needs. That way I can fix any build
On 01/10/2013 00:14, pk wrote:
On 2013-09-30 08:45, Alan McKinnon wrote:
That is over-simplifying the problem and trivializing it. No-one ever
said the *everythign* in /usr is criticial for boot.
Is it really over-simplyfying it? How am I supposed to know whatever
comes next? Someone
Am 01.10.2013 08:30, schrieb Carlos Sura:
Hello Mates,
I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this issue:
I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I
cannot log in to gnome as a normal user, I can only log in to gnome as
root.
What I have done
I'm soaking up a lot of your time (again). I'll return with any real
Gentoo questions I run into and to run down the final plan before I
execute it. Thanks so much for your help. Not sure what I'd do
without you. :)
I'm sure Neil would step in if I'm hit by a bus
He'd say the same
Hello Jochen,
Thank you for your help.
Here is the Xorg log: http://tny.cz/69b4662a
Regarding the gdm session.log I don't have it. Here is
the /var/log/gdm/:0.log : http://tny.cz/35e886e2
Here is my emerge --info: http://tny.cz/10262247
On 1 October 2013 00:52, Jochen Kirchner
In another note:
I've just installed enlightenment and it works fine. Gnome works fine ONLY
as root, but not as normal user.
On 1 October 2013 01:06, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello Jochen,
Thank you for your help.
Here is the Xorg log: http://tny.cz/69b4662a
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 03:30:32 +0200, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
i have a Rootserver with Power. Can i built package on this Host and
send Package to my Notebooks? Can i built Packages on the Root without
local install?
If you install into a chroot on the server, just like the first steps of
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 22:36:34 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
Do you have some alias causing df output to use -h or how does that
work?
% alias df
df='df --human-readable --no-sync --print-type'
Or, to put it another way - Yes.
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On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 23:07:14 -0700, Grant wrote:
Build time itself really isn't a big deal. I can have the
clients update overnight. Whether the clients emerge or emerge -K is
the same amount of admnistrative work I would think.
I can think of one exception, the occasional ebuild that
Hi,
in good tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks ati-drivers again
(as always in the past).
Does anybody know about a patch to make
x11-drivers/ati-drivers:legacy
compile with linux-3.12-rc3 ?
Trying to emerge ati-drivers-13.1_pre897 (currently the only legacy
driver)
with 3.12-rc3
Am 01.10.2013 09:07, schrieb Carlos Sura:
In another note:
I've just installed enlightenment and it works fine. Gnome works fine
ONLY as root, but not as normal user.
On 1 October 2013 01:06, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com
mailto:carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello
Am 30.09.2013 22:03, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
I will simply let the scp take its time over night ... and I hope the
KVM-performance will be OK when I start the converted VM.
I used split and tar to split the image-file into 100 MB parts and rsync
them over right now.
Maybe I have
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:30:51AM -0600, Carlos Sura wrote
Hello Mates,
I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this issue:
I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I cannot
log in to gnome as a normal user, I can only log in to gnome as root.
On 09/29/2013 11:13 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 09:21:01PM -0500, Daniel Campbell wrote:
/usr/lib/udev.
/usr/lib/systemd.
were both placed in /usr despite objections from a number of folks.
So claims that udev and systemd are not responsible are not true.
On 09/29/2013 11:40 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
You're right, though; it's a problem that lots of programs have. I
guess it's the natural result of modular software that has
interdependencies. You basically need *everything* available on boot.
You don't need everything (obviously -- otherwise
On 01/10/2013 10:30, Greg Woodbury wrote:
All that is required is that the programs and libraries necessary to
locate and mount root and then to find and mount other filesystems be in
root.
Please provide the full and complete list of all code on all Gentoo
systems that are required in all
The 01/10/13, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
I used split and tar to split the image-file into 100 MB parts and rsync
them over right now.
Maybe I have something wrong in my kernel ... the server shows a load of
around 3 ... while only the rsync is running and my mosh-session ...
This is a
On 2013-09-30 3:14 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30/09/2013 19:25, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Alan wrote:
Charles wrote:
But... is /usr/portage the default/recommended location? If so, then I
don't think I want to move it - I generally never change defaults unless
rm ~/.Xauthority
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:30:51AM -0600, Carlos Sura wrote
Hello Mates,
I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this
issue:
I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I
cannot
log in to
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello Mates,
I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this issue:
I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I cannot
log in to gnome as a normal user, I can only log in
On 01/10/2013 14:35, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-09-30 3:14 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30/09/2013 19:25, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Alan wrote:
Charles wrote:
But... is /usr/portage the default/recommended location? If so, then I
don't think I want to move it - I
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 08:35:16 -0400
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2013-09-30 3:14 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30/09/2013 19:25, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Alan wrote:
Charles wrote:
But... is /usr/portage the default/recommended location? If so,
On 2013-10-01 8:46 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
I know that it is probably trivial, but I like to read official docs for
things like this...
It is trivial. All that it is, is a path to where some stuff is. That's
all, nothing more.
Ok, thanks... but (call me anal,
Am 01.10.2013 14:32, schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht:
The 01/10/13, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
I used split and tar to split the image-file into 100 MB parts and rsync
them over right now.
Maybe I have something wrong in my kernel ... the server shows a load of
around 3 ... while only the rsync
Jumping in randomly:
With portage-2.2 stable, you can now put sets in overlays. This has
greatly simplified our shared configuration, because I can push out a
base set of packages to every system just by including it in our overlay
(which is configured on every machine).
If you can push out
On 10/01/2013 08:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
So... if the change from /usr/portage to /var/portage was official, is
there any (official) documentation on precisely how to move it?
Hmmm more importantly, when did this change occur? Is it possibly
tied to portage 2.2? The reason I ask is,
On 01/10/2013 15:52, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-10-01 8:46 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
I know that it is probably trivial, but I like to read official docs for
things like this...
It is trivial. All that it is, is a path to where some stuff is. That's
all, nothing more.
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:52:47 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-10-01 8:46 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
I know that it is probably trivial, but I like to read official docs
for things like this...
It is trivial. All that it is, is a path to where some stuff is.
That's
There are 3 (or more) computers which sync (sometimes daily) on my LAN at
work: server, router, and workstation. server has issues almost all the time
getting a rsync server (for lack of better way to state it). All three comps
have the exact same SYNC in make.conf:
mingdao@server ~ $ grep SYNC
On 01/10/2013 16:20, Bruce Hill wrote:
There are 3 (or more) computers which sync (sometimes daily) on my LAN at
work: server, router, and workstation. server has issues almost all the time
getting a rsync server (for lack of better way to state it). All three comps
have the exact same SYNC in
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On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 04:44:29PM +0200, Alain Didierjean wrote:
I'm in trouble for
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 16:11:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
So I split them up and rigged things so each category of thing is in
it's own distinct directory tree. Like I said earlier, they are just
paths and you can put them anywhere you like. You too can put yours
anywhere it makes sense to
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:52:53 +0200 (CEST), Alain Didierjean wrote:
I didn't solved my issue: I downloaded and installed gcc and gcc-config
from tinderbox and now the whole kde apps don't work, libc++ being out
of reach (it's in /usr/lib64 all right). What did I possibly mess up ?
I can't find
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 10:04:54 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
With portage-2.2 stable, you can now put sets in overlays.
Nice! I missed that.
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Bruce Hill
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
There are 3 (or more) computers which sync (sometimes daily) on my LAN at
work: server, router, and workstation. server has issues almost all the time
getting a rsync server (for lack of better way to state it).
On 01/10/2013 17:17, Greg Turner wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Bruce Hill
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
There are 3 (or more) computers which sync (sometimes daily) on my LAN at
work: server, router, and workstation. server has issues almost all the time
getting a rsync
Am 01.10.2013 01:21, schrieb Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike):
El 30/09/13 00:47, Volker Armin Hemmann escribió:
Am 29.09.2013 18:41, schrieb Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike):
El 29/09/13 18:03, Volker Armin Hemmann escribió:
Am 29.09.2013 17:12, schrieb Greg Woodbury:
On
On 2013-10-01 10:14 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
On 10/01/2013 08:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
So... if the change from /usr/portage to /var/portage was official, is
there any (official) documentation on precisely how to move it?
Hmmm more importantly, when did this change
Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
Hi,
in good tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks ati-drivers
again (as always in the past).
Does anybody know about a patch to make
x11-drivers/ati-drivers:legacy
compile with linux-3.12-rc3 ?
Trying to emerge ati-drivers-13.1_pre897
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30/09/2013 19:31, Grant wrote:
Keeping all of the laptops 100% identical as far as hardware is
central to this plan. I know I'm setting myself up for big
problems
otherwise.
I'm hoping I can emerge every package on my laptop that every other
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch
installation.
Why? If ever there was a distro for people that didn't want to use
defaults, Gentoo is it.
Someone had to decide the defaults - so, what are they? Anyone?
Am 01.10.2013 16:00, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5719 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01)
This is a 4-port NIC ... maybe I need some specific drivers and not only
the tg3-kernel-module?
for the records and if someone wants to join in:
recompiled the kernel,
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:31 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2013-09-30 00:04, Alan McKinnon wrote:
It's the general idea that you can leave /usr unmounted until some
random arb time later in the startup sequence and just expect things to
work out fine that is broken.
It just happened
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:22 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:31 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2013-09-30 00:04, Alan McKinnon wrote:
It's the general idea that you can leave /usr unmounted until some
random arb time later in the startup sequence
On 2013-09-26 15:35, Bruce Hill wrote:
Check the manual for your BIOS/motherboard to see if it's some
indication of
hardware failure.
Hmm, I'm sure that I have seen some beeps documented, but I cannot find
that anywhere in the manual now. But I have a hard time believing that
it's the
On 2013-09-26 15:24, the wrote:
Might be related with some kind of io error.
What does dmesg show?
Nothing out of the ordinary. :-(
Can it have something to do with the graphics card instead? Because it
stops right when the screen blanks?
Peter.
On 2013-10-01 08:16, Alan McKinnon wrote:
There are many examples in /usr you could have used to illustrate your
point, such as many fuse modules. And yet you chose an imaginary space
invader game.
Let's rather stick within the bounds of what is feasible, OK?
What can I say, I like to
On 01/10/2013 20:48, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch
installation.
Why? If ever there was a distro for people that didn't want to use
defaults, Gentoo is it.
Someone had to
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/10/2013 20:48, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch
installation.
Why? If ever there was a distro for
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:51:01 -0700, Greg Turner wrote:
I do think I vaguely recall that discussion about /var too though...
frankly, /var seems more sensible ... but maybe that's a can of worms
I should not be opening in this thread :)
I think it was one of those discussion where every could
Peter Weilbacher wrote:
On one of my machines, I get continuous beeping from the internal
loudspeaker when I boot a newer kernel (I'm using vanilla-sources). I
first had that with 3.10.8 and also with 3.10.10, and it continues
with 3.11.1.
When I first had that problem I tried to remove all
I've been researching the very well-regarded configuration management
framework 'salt' and I wanted to report that it has Gentoo support:
Portage Config Module:
http://docs.saltstack.com/ref/modules/all/salt.modules.portage_config.html
Portage Config State:
Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:
http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html
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