Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable) alternatives ?

2014-11-17 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 07:18:30AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote Can you find one example of any situation where the linux kernel has ever required any specific implementation of anything in userspace as a matter of policy

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng-3.6.1 nearly no log anymore

2014-11-17 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 04:11:56PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote USE=systemd simply means to enable support for systemd, not that it is running. Generally stuff like this should be a matter of configuration, not build

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng-3.6.1 nearly no log anymore

2014-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 05:32:14 -0500, Tom H wrote: Is the systemd USE flag an actual syslog-ng compilation option or it is a flag to generate systemd units when syslog-ng is installed? Both. -- Neil Bothwick Quantum leap: (adj.) literally, to move by the smallest amount theoretically

Re: [gentoo-user] apcupsd to recycle power

2014-11-17 Thread Thanasis
on 11/17/2014 03:06 AM thegeezer wrote the following: snip the only way forward that i see would be to get a small device a la raspberry pi, and have that run apcupsd on it. you can then have that device run wake on lan if it detects the power is good, and trigger remote shutdown when not.

[gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hi. I was going to install gentoo on my laptop and since I needed an easy WPA2 wireless connection I used system rescue cd for installation. After finishing the installation when I booted gentoo the ifconfig -a didnt show my wireless interface. I thought that I have not included the driver, so I

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 17/11/14 14:42, behrouz khosravi wrote: Hi. I was going to install gentoo on my laptop and since I needed an easy WPA2 wireless connection I used system rescue cd for installation. After finishing the installation when I booted gentoo the

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng-3.6.1 nearly no log anymore

2014-11-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 05:32:14 -0500, Tom H wrote: Is the systemd USE flag an actual syslog-ng compilation option or it is a flag to generate systemd units when syslog-ng is installed? Both. Please read the ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng-3.6.1 nearly no log anymore

2014-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 07:59:57 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: Is the systemd USE flag an actual syslog-ng compilation option or it is a flag to generate systemd units when syslog-ng is installed? Both. Please read the ebuild before giving answers like this. The unit file is installed

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hm, does wireless device require firmware? Have you installed firmware properly? I dont think so. I have installed gentoo on it before and back then I just used the genkernel and it was working.

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng-3.6.1 nearly no log anymore

2014-11-17 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 11/13/2014 05:41:27 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, after upgrading from syslog-ng-3.5.6 to syslog-ng-3.6.1 my system has stopped logging, i.e. I only get the messages Nov 12 21:04:10 numa syslog-ng[1392]: syslog-ng shutting down; version='3.6.1' Nov 13 14:52:20 numa

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:32 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hm, does wireless device require firmware? Have you installed firmware properly? I dont think so. I have installed gentoo on it before and back then I just used the genkernel and it was working. What's the

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Nov 17, 2014 7:32 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:32 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hm, does wireless device require firmware? Have you installed firmware properly? I dont think so. I have installed gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:58 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 7:32 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:32 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hm, does wireless device require firmware? Have

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:58 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 7:32 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:32 PM, behrouz

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Nov 17, 2014 8:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:58 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 7:32 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:32 PM, behrouz khosravi

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 7:36 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 8:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:58 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 7:32 PM, Alexander Kapshuk

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Nov 17, 2014 9:06 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 8:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:58 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 7:32 PM, Alexander Kapshuk

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 7:55 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 9:06 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 8:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:58 PM, behrouz khosravi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: qt5

2014-11-17 Thread Michael Vetter
Jauhien knows what he is doing. If he is waiting on the QT5 bug to be resolved, then that is where it is sitting. Surely you should open up a bgo ticket on QTcreator? I am not sure there is any bug. I thought it's only about configuration. My main reason for writing the initial mail was to get

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng-3.6.1 nearly no log anymore

2014-11-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Should I make a bug report on this? See my post. I suggest testing the different input source options to understand what the actual problem is. I suspect this is an upstream bug in the implementation of

[gentoo-user] Re: qt5

2014-11-17 Thread James
Michael Vetter michael.vetter at uni-konstanz.de writes: Jauhien knows what he is doing. If he is waiting on the QT5 bug to be resolved, then that is where it is sitting. Surely you should open up a bgo ticket on QTcreator? Anybody could tell me what's going on and answer my initial

Re: [gentoo-user] kexec

2014-11-17 Thread thegeezer
On 17/11/14 03:25, wraeth wrote: Would I be correct in guessing that this is dependant on sys-apps/kexec-tools being installed and CONFIG_KEXEC being enabled in the kernel? correct. And, with CONFIG_KEXEC, is that required for the old kernel, new kernel or both? just the one you are

Re: [gentoo-user] difficulties with lvm2+systemd+grub2

2014-11-17 Thread Michael Mair-Keimberger
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 12:21:37PM +1100, wraeth wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 07:43:18PM +0100, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: Basically my changes in my grub config were already correct, however I completely forgot, that, since I wrote my own init script, arg's like root and init simply

[gentoo-user] question about binhost's

2014-11-17 Thread Michael Mair-Keimberger
Hi list, I was setting up an binhost recently and i couldn't found any information how to keep old builds. Usually, for example a newer version of tcpdump gets build, the old build will be deleted. Only different slots were keeped. However, I want to keep these old builds but I haven't found an

Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's

2014-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/11/2014 23:01, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: Hi list, I was setting up an binhost recently and i couldn't found any information how to keep old builds. Usually, for example a newer version of tcpdump gets build, the old build will be deleted. Only different slots were keeped.

[gentoo-user] Inconsistency in portage automake package versioning

2014-11-17 Thread Gevisz
In today's system update I was advised to update sys-devel/automake from version 1.11.6 to version 1.11.6-r1. However, just after the update the system reported that sys-devel/automake has version 1.13.4. Is it only me who think that something is wrong here? The commands and their output is

Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's

2014-11-17 Thread thegeezer
On 17/11/14 21:01, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: Hi list, I was setting up an binhost recently and i couldn't found any information how to keep old builds. Usually, for example a newer version of tcpdump gets build, the old build will be deleted. Only different slots were keeped. However, I

Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's

2014-11-17 Thread Michael Mair-Keimberger
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:27:08PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 17/11/2014 23:01, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: Hi list, I was setting up an binhost recently and i couldn't found any information how to keep old builds. Usually, for example a newer version of tcpdump gets build, the

Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's

2014-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/11/2014 23:32, thegeezer wrote: On 17/11/14 21:01, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: Hi list, I was setting up an binhost recently and i couldn't found any information how to keep old builds. Usually, for example a newer version of tcpdump gets build, the old build will be deleted. Only

Re: [gentoo-user] Inconsistency in portage automake package versioning

2014-11-17 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/17/2014 04:29 PM, Gevisz wrote: In today's system update I was advised to update sys-devel/automake from version 1.11.6 to version 1.11.6-r1. However, just after the update the system reported that sys-devel/automake has version 1.13.4. Is it only me who think that something is wrong

Re: [gentoo-user] Inconsistency in portage automake package versioning

2014-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/11/2014 23:29, Gevisz wrote: In today's system update I was advised to update sys-devel/automake from version 1.11.6 to version 1.11.6-r1. However, just after the update the system reported that sys-devel/automake has version 1.13.4. Is it only me who think that something is wrong

Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's

2014-11-17 Thread Michael Mair-Keimberger
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 09:32:45PM +, thegeezer wrote: On 17/11/14 21:01, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: Hi list, I was setting up an binhost recently and i couldn't found any information how to keep old builds. Usually, for example a newer version of tcpdump gets build, the old

Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's

2014-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/11/2014 23:46, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:27:08PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 17/11/2014 23:01, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: Hi list, I was setting up an binhost recently and i couldn't found any information how to keep old builds. Usually, for

Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's

2014-11-17 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Nov 17, 2014, at 23:46, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/11/2014 23:32, thegeezer wrote: On 17/11/14 21:01, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: Hi list, I was setting up an binhost recently and i couldn't found any information how to keep old builds. Usually, for example

Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's

2014-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 22:55:05 +0100, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: Hmm, that's interesting. I just checked another binhost and they clearly were kept. I don't know why it doesn't work with mine but it's definitely a problem with my system. They should be kept, it defeats one of the main

Re: [gentoo-user] Inconsistency in portage automake package versioning

2014-11-17 Thread Gevisz
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:46:48 -0500 Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11/17/2014 04:29 PM, Gevisz wrote: In today's system update I was advised to update sys-devel/automake from version 1.11.6 to version 1.11.6-r1. However, just after the update the system reported that

Re: [gentoo-user] Inconsistency in portage automake package versioning

2014-11-17 Thread Gevisz
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 23:49:18 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/11/2014 23:29, Gevisz wrote: In today's system update I was advised to update sys-devel/automake from version 1.11.6 to version 1.11.6-r1. However, just after the update the system reported that

Re: [gentoo-user] Inconsistency in portage automake package versioning

2014-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 00:55:09 +0200, Gevisz wrote: You have both installed, 1.13.4 is just the latest. Give eix a try, it will make your life better. In this case equery also works: $ equery l automake * Searching for automake ... [IP-] [ ]

[gentoo-user] Re: Inconsistency in portage automake package versioning

2014-11-17 Thread James
Gevisz gevisz at gmail.com writes: p.s. make life easier for yourself when searching the tree. Install eix and stop using emerge --search. eix runs out a gazillion times faster As fas as I remember, I have eix installed but used only once. :) Have to re-read its documentation first.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Inconsistency in portage automake package versioning

2014-11-17 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 18/11/14 14:13, James wrote: Gevisz gevisz at gmail.com writes: p.s. make life easier for yourself when searching the tree. Install eix and stop using emerge --search. eix runs out a gazillion times faster As fas as I remember, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Inconsistency in portage automake package versioning

2014-11-17 Thread gevisz
2014-11-18 2:04 GMT+02:00 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 00:55:09 +0200, Gevisz wrote: You have both installed, 1.13.4 is just the latest. Give eix a try, it will make your life better. In this case equery also works: $ equery l automake * Searching for

Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's

2014-11-17 Thread Mick
On Monday 17 Nov 2014 22:14:47 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 22:55:05 +0100, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: Hmm, that's interesting. I just checked another binhost and they clearly were kept. I don't know why it doesn't work with mine but it's definitely a problem with my

Re: [gentoo-user] apcupsd to recycle power

2014-11-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, November 14, 2014 08:53:13 PM Thanasis wrote: I have an APC SC620I, which in case of power failure, it successfully initiates a shutdown to the connected (via SMART cable) PC, but if the mains power returns, the UPS does not recycle the power to the PC, and consequently the PC stays

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

2014-11-17 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 7:55 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 9:06 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 8:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk

Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's

2014-11-17 Thread wraeth
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 06:45:51AM +, Mick wrote: Interestingly, how do you remove an binary package using portage when you no longer need it? Using 'rm -i package' manually? The `eclean` utility from app-portage/gentoolkit can do this for you (as well as maintaining your distfiles