Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread konsolebox
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 07/10/2016 01:27 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> It's an overlay, not an Attic. Enable the overlay with layman. >> >> A single kde-4 ebuild is useless without the rest of KDE it depends on. >> > > I just tried this and

[gentoo-user] Acceptable character encodings for files in /etc/portage?

2016-07-10 Thread P Levine
Glep 31 states that text files in the portage tree should use UTF-8 encoding. I see nothing indicating any standard encoding for files in the /etc/portage directory. Since everything I have seen in portage's python source-code seems to imply Unicode as valid but I can see nothing specific to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/10/2016 01:27 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > It's an overlay, not an Attic. Enable the overlay with layman. > > A single kde-4 ebuild is useless without the rest of KDE it depends on. > I just tried this and layman says the overlay doesn't exist: # layman -a kde-sunset * Adding

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 00:06, Philip Webb wrote: The proliferation of pkgs in KDE, Gnome, Perl + other areas is going to become a problem for Gentoo, as they will tend to demand more dev attention & will also add to users' burden in keeping track of what they use + need. I disagree. My burden is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Philip Webb
160711 Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 10/07/16 05:44, Philip Webb wrote: >> What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? >> root:508 ~> eix konsole >> [U?] kde-apps/konsole >> Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test} >> Installed versions: 4.14.3(4/4.14)^t([2015-10-07

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:19:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > Is this what KDE officialdom now requires or can Gentoo work around it ? > My understanding was that KDE is now a 'software collection', Actually, that label was applied to KDE4! -- Neil Bothwick Uhura: Captain, you're being flamed on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/07/2016 22:25, James wrote: Michael Palimaka gentoo.org> writes: On 10/07/16 05:44, Philip Webb wrote: What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? We recently dropped most of 4.14 as it is old, unsupported, and assists in easing our general maintenance burden. As usual, it has been copied

[gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread James
Michael Palimaka gentoo.org> writes: > On 10/07/16 05:44, Philip Webb wrote: > > What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? > We recently dropped most of 4.14 as it is old, unsupported, and assists > in easing our general maintenance burden. > As usual, it has been copied to the kde-sunset overlay

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/07/2016 21:19, Philip Webb wrote: 160711 konsolebox wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Philip Webb wrote: What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? root:508 ~> eix konsole [U?] kde-apps/konsole Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook

[gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 10/07/16 05:44, Philip Webb wrote: > What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? > > root:508 ~> eix konsole > [U?] kde-apps/konsole > Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test} > Installed versions: 4.14.3(4/4.14)^t([2015-10-07 13:08:42])(handbook > -aqua

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Philip Webb
160711 konsolebox wrote: > On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Philip Webb wrote: >> What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? >> root:508 ~> eix konsole >> [U?] kde-apps/konsole >> Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test} >> Installed versions:

Re: [gentoo-user] Xcdroast users : alert

2016-07-10 Thread Philip Webb
160709 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 08 Jul 2016 14:01:45 +0200 Helmut Jarausch wrote: >> On 07/07/2016 08:59:59 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >>> I revbumped xcdroast to fix this and other issues. xcdroast users, >>> please test that xcdroast-0.98_alpha16-r2.ebuild works for you : >>> you can

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/07/2016 20:54, Andrew Savchenko wrote: Hi, On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:44:45 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? root:508 ~> eix konsole [U?] kde-apps/konsole Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test} Installed versions:

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:44:45 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: > What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? > > root:508 ~> eix konsole > [U?] kde-apps/konsole > Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test} > Installed versions: 4.14.3(4/4.14)^t([2015-10-07

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/07/2016 19:43, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:22:32 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: The KDE project are notorious for that, or at least in my book they are. I told them last year that if I'd allowed an embryonic KDE-4 out the door the way they did I'd have been out of a job

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4

2016-07-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:22:32 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > The KDE project are notorious for that, or at least in my book they > are. I told them last year that if I'd allowed an embryonic KDE-4 out > the door the way they did I'd have been out of a job quicker than you > could say "quality

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread konsolebox
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? > > root:508 ~> eix konsole > [U?] kde-apps/konsole > Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test} > Installed versions:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4

2016-07-10 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/10/2016 04:22 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I've had no trouble with stability, only with ugliness. > > Thanks again for trying to help, Dan. > No problem! Too bad it didn't work. I remember reading a couple of months ago KDE committed a patch to the constant crash problem but I can't find

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4

2016-07-10 Thread Robin Atwood
On Sunday 10 July 2016, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 09 Jul 2016 23:22:49 I wrote: > > On Sunday 10 Jul 2016 04:08:36 Michael Palimaka wrote: > --->8 > > > > This change is correct - we're in the process of cleaning up some old > > > ebuilds at the moment. > > > > > > In this case

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT?]: CH340 working/not working with ESP286 Node MCU

2016-07-10 Thread Meino . Cramer
James [16-07-10 14:05]: > Corbin Bird charter.net> writes: > > > The hardware ID's database may need to be updated ( or supplemented ). > > The package "sys-apps/pciutils" has the hardware database included in it. > > looking at the ebuild for 'pci-utils' we see:: >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?]: CH340 working/not working with ESP286 Node MCU

2016-07-10 Thread Meino . Cramer
Corbin Bird [16-07-10 14:03]: > > On 07/07/2016 10:22 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I have bought an ESP8266 Lua NodeMCU board, which has > >an FTDI-like chip on board to map USB to serial and > >vice versa. It is an CH340 one. > >There is an according

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4

2016-07-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 09 Jul 2016 19:45:03 Daniel Frey wrote: > Right now my machine is nice and stable. What I don't understand is that > plasma clearly isn't ready for primetime yet (IMHO) yet it seems KDE4 is > not installable on Gentoo anymore. The KDE project are notorious for that, or at least in my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4

2016-07-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 10 Jul 2016 03:08:43 I wrote: > I don't want to go to KDE-5 until I can find a way to reduce the absurd > amount of vertical space occupied by every line of text. It will still be > ugly, but at least more manageable. I've found what I was looking for. There's a pair of settings for