Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-31 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, Rich. On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 16:03:48 -0400, among other, you wrote: > > You should note that nobody with an @gentoo.org game is playing your > 20 questions game either. And that's OK. Sthu.

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing unnecessary software.

2017-07-31 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, Neil. On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 20:48:38 +0100, among other, you wrote: > > A profile is only a starting point, a default set of packages and > > USE > flags for common scenarios. It is up to the user/admin to decide which > packages they want to install on each system, so a one size fits all >

Re: [gentoo-user] Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

2017-07-30 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, R0b0t1. On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 20:44:10 -0500, among other, you wrote: > > Not to get away from OP's question, but how good would the installer > need to be before it held the interest of any developers that manage > the website or handbook? > > I ask because the much simpler thing I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-30 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, Ian. On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:37:49 -0700, among other, you wrote: > > PROMPT='Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' > read -p $PROMPT device On "Debian" it does not work: Entera1 ./об: строка 6: read: «(like»: это недопустимый идентификатор > To the OP: How do you run the script? Are

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-30 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, Vadim. On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:13:17 +0700, among other, you wrote: > > > read 'Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' device > > AFAIK, this is not valid syntax for `read` in any shell (even on > Debian. I just checked) Now i see this too even on "Debian" and i can't explain that,

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-30 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, Peter. On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 00:10:41 +0100, among other, you wrote: > > > read 'Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' device > > > > Until i remove the brackets, "Gentoo's" bash keeps error > > messaging. > > Which brackets? They aren't matched. I know, but i say what i see. Thank

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-30 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, Alexander. On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:08:37 +0300, among other, you wrote: > > Alright. Here is an example of the problematic line from the point > of view of "Gentoo's" bash: > > read 'Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' device > > Until i remove the brackets, "Gentoo's" bash keeps

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-30 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, Neil. On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 22:07:31 +0100, among other, you wrote: > > > Mathematics (mother of computers) answers: 1+1=2. -- Meaning: same > > script w/ the same bash gets same execution. > > Except it's not the same bash, you stated that they are different > versions. I do not suppose

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] build programs in other distros

2017-07-29 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, Francisco. On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 18:07:30 -0300, among other, you wrote: > > How do real developers manage this? And why this difference Make building systems for every target distro OR make so-called "snap packages" -- that include everything the packaged software needs. > > happens, in

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, Neil. On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:43:53 +0100, you wrote: > > How do you know that the contents of the script are not relevant > > when you > don't know what the problem is? It is also useful to know the exact Mathematics (mother of computers) answers: 1+1=2. -- Meaning: same script w/ the same

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Ста Деюс
> There was a bug in historic versions of bash, where it got confused > if the POSIX syntax for command expansion, that is $( ) , occurred > within a case statement. I don't know which version it was where it > got fixed, but I think it wasn't before 4.*. So what versions of > bash do you have

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Ста Деюс
> > and both systems contain bash, that interprets the script, why the > > difference on syntax? > > > > Can you attach to bash script you are running and the exact error > messages? It is hard to say (at least for me) without seeing it; bash > to bash portability issues are something I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Ста Деюс
>> Why bash script (the install script), that works in "Debian", does >> not >> work on "Gentoo" install CD, giving me syntax errors (basically >> related to '(', ')' and ''')? In the script is the interpreter line >> >> #!/bin/bash > You say that line appears in both scripts, but is it the

[gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi. Why bash script (the install script), that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD, giving me syntax errors (basically related to '(', ')' and ''')? In the script is the interpreter line #!/bin/bash and both systems contain bash, that interprets the script, why the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Alsa equalizer won't work

2017-07-23 Thread Ста Деюс
> I started my Debian's experience with Squeeze and ended with Jessie. > No problems with alsa so far. I cannot tolerate systemd and other > non-Unix way concepts that they adopted, so instead of updating to > Stretch I switched to Gentoo. I must say that Gentoo is more time > consuming thing but

Re: [gentoo-user] On making customized profile again.

2017-07-21 Thread Ста Деюс
> > Trying to remove several packages from the "common" profile, i did > > copy mine to the same directory w/ that difference, that mine is > > located in /usr/local/portage > > > > instead of "common's" > > /usr/portage > > > > Then i copied > > /usr/portage/profiles/profiles.desc > > > > to >

[gentoo-user] On making customized profile again.

2017-07-19 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi. Trying to remove several packages from the "common" profile, i did copy mine to the same directory w/ that difference, that mine is located in /usr/local/portage instead of "common's" /usr/portage Then i copied /usr/portage/profiles/profiles.desc to

[gentoo-user] How to remove a package from a profile?

2017-07-11 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi. Is it possible to remove a package from a profile? -- I try to remove absolutely unnecessary to me openssh package from default/linux/x86 profile that beside each time necessity to compile, just reduces system security. So, i did mask it, having created an openssh file in

Re: [gentoo-user] To install a testing version of a package on a stable OS installation.

2017-07-10 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, R0b0t1. On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 19:18:50 -0500, you wrote: > > I run mixed stable and testing packages, and it seems to work very > well. The issues I have had had made me consider switching to entirely > testing (~amd64) because a lot of issues are actually > incompatibilities between stable

[gentoo-user] To install a testing version of a package on a stable OS installation.

2017-07-09 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi. Is it possible to compile/install a testing version of a package w/ its dependencies on a stable OS installation? -- I mean, if a have stable installation of whole the system, can i compile and install a testing version of single package and the packages this single package depends on?

[gentoo-user] Xserver: /dev/dri/card0 -- no such file.

2017-07-08 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi. I'm fighting already days the problem of "/dev/dri/card0 -- no such file" (old AGP card, NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440) -- as x-server states in its log file. I have installed my system w/ hardened profile, it's being 32bit-system, and then added x-programs to use it as desktop (i didn't install

[gentoo-user] Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-03 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi. I'm new to Gentoo, and before new installation on my PC, keep trying to choose between system profiles. I want to use the PC as desktop, but am concerned on security and minimalism. So, I would like to use the hardened profile and then add the desktop packages, namely openbox w/o any