On Friday, 12 May 2023 00:08:03 BST Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 3:07 PM Peter Humphrey
>
> wrote:
> > On Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:18:17 BST Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>
> > > The ''problem' is this can easily hit 100% of the cores you have in the
>
On Friday, 12 May 2023 11:09:37 BST Arve Barsnes wrote:
> On Fri, 12 May 2023 at 10:34, Peter Humphrey
wrote:
> > I have said several times that portage is ignoring that setting. I have it
> > at 40, yet portage kicks off more packages at 72, and continues doing so
> >
g, and I can't see it in the man pages, so
> you can be sure it isn't set here. You don't mean --jobs, do you?
Please ignore that. I must go for some coffee.
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but I don't know
> if emerge passes any MAKEOPTS to ninja. That might be an interesting
> enhancement request.
I didn't know about that setting, and I can't see it in the man pages, so you
can be sure it isn't set here. You don't mean --jobs, do you?
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Surely, it must
be to mitigate the worst effects of that N*K, but it isn't doing so.
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u only want to spawn 16 * 0.4 jobs so you'd set that value to
> 6.4
24 cores, but portage is ignoring my load-average anyway, so I'm interested to
see what the bug reports elicits.
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r
> for this man page... ;-)
Yet more confusion, with man page and wiki article contradicting each other.
:(
I'll try your suggestions - thanks!
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y is --load-average=40 being ignored?"
Perhaps we don't all understand the same things about how this is supposed to
work.
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On Monday, 8 May 2023 11:20:45 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Maybe you should take this to bgo where it can be flagged for the portage
> devs to look at, just keep us posted on the outcome.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/905933
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re make commands, to keep the system busy up to the specified average
> load.
Everybody keeps explaining how the system is supposed to work. I know all
that, as I said last time.
The problem is that PORTAGE IS NOT DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO.
I don't like to shout, but I don't know how else to get the point across.
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but I don't think they're related to mine. I just want to know
how to control the number of simultaneous tasks during a big emerge - or any
emerge, really.
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could see, swap was not touched.
The machine has 24 threads and 64GB RAM (not to mention plenty of swap), so
how was the 72 figure arrived at?
I still don't know how to control the number of simultaneous compilations,
short of limiting them to one.
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that, say, qtwebengine is never
compiled at the same time as anything else? I don't want to rely on my
noticing and intervening, and besides, it isn't always possible just to
--exclude it.
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On Friday, 28 April 2023 10:08:01 BST Philip Webb wrote:
> 230428 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:23:01 BST Philip Webb wrote:
> >> I've built & tested the new machine I was planning in 2022
> >> & am at the point of designing the partiti
ative. Reiserfs seemed appropriate
> for a system with a large number of small files.
> Ext4 seems to be used by well-known binary distros.
>
> What would others recommend ?
It depends: is this a UEFI machine?
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y it applies only
> “in hybrid or legacy mode”.
It helps to have done something else for 24 hours, and come back to read it
again. I think I understand it now, but it could have been written so much
better.
Actually, I think a bit more structure in the whole file would be a good idea:
where does one section end and the next begin, for instance?
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Hello list,
BOINC is behaving strangely, and following a clue it gives me I look in /etc/
rc.conf and find this:
# This switch controls whether or not cgroups version 1 controllers are
# individually mounted under
# /sys/fs/cgroup in hybrid or legacy mode.
#rc_controller_cgroups="YES"
So,
it to look at would work but get this:
>
>
> root@fireball /home/dale/Desktop/Crypt # `find -type f -print0 | xargs
> -0 stat -c '%s %n' | sort -n | head -n 20`
> -bash: 2: command not found
> root@fireball /home/dale/Desktop/Crypt #
>
>
> It works if I'm in the / directory but not when I'm cd'd to the
> directory I want to know about. I don't see a spot to change it. Ideas.
In place of "find -type..." say "find / -type..."
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On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 18:59:26 BST Dale wrote:
> Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 09:00:33 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >> With my HDD:
> >># smartctl -x /dev/sda | grep -i 'sector size'
> >>Sector Sizes: 51
upported LBA Sizes (NSID 0x1)
Id Fmt Data Metadt Rel_Perf
0 + 512 0 0
:)
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as no room.
>
> My latest attempt (when I get gentoo video working) will be to *add*
> Windows to a working system.
Can you not just resize the partition?
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for me.
You may be able to see from all that why I abandoned grub years ago. Far too
bloated, restrictive and cumbersome.
By the way, I hardly ever have to use efibootmgr; the only common cause is
having to delete the odd spurious entry.
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as /boot/EFI.
I think certain EFI BIOSes will only co-operate with certain directory
layouts. I've had mixed experiences anyway.
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t; SSD's, this was serious concern.
In short, see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/SSD . :)
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Hello list,
The latest update installed sys-libs/ncurses-6.4_p20230408. It caused large
amounts of junk to appear in bash output, including wrong colours.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/904263 refers.
I've masked that version. You may want to too.
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> 3. Update the kernel and reboot (keeping the old kernel for a while)
Perhaps you missed the point that some of the world update requires the
updated kernel.
I'd do the same as Thelma.
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On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:36:27 BST Arve Barsnes wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:45, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:28:58 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > > On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > What does the panel think of
On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:28:58 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
> > (~amd64)?
> What messages? Where? When? :P
They seem to be a feature of sys-apps/portage-3
On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 12:03:57 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Peter,
>
> On Tuesday, 2023-04-11 11:19:31 +0100, you wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 06:44:03 BST the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> > > After update I get:
> > > * IMPORTANT: confi
On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 09:56:22 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - that
> is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum number of
> simultaneous jobs. I'm trying to get that
Grumpy Old Man (tm).
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any USE flag at all has changed in a package, it'll be recompiled,
whether it needs to be on your system or not.
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be a symlink to /proc/self/mounts, so it ought to be kept up
to date by the kernel as required.
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ing.
2. https://armari.com/ . They specialise in systems for financial trading in
the City of London, where (I'm told) milliseconds count, as well as
reliability of course.
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showing up.
I hope I've understood you, but if you have a PPD file, you just specify it
directly.. No messing about with makers - just pick Another Network Printer
and copy in the file name. For instance, with my Lexmark printer I tell it to
use /usr/local/src/.
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z. It has 4 more cores but clock speed is a
> little slower.
I have one of those processors. I can't give you benchmarks or anything, but
in practice at 3.7GHz it blows the socks off my older i7-5820K at 3.3 MHz.
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Michael,
is this a systemd machine ? If yes: We had the same problem before some days
in our Gentoo forum:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1162393.html
Here it was SystemCallFilter from systemd.
Regards,
Peter
Am Samstag, 18. März 2023, 19:36:10 CET schrieb Michael:
> It's only b
On Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:01:16 GMT Dale wrote:
> Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Thursday, 9 March 2023 14:31:32 GMT Andreas Stiasny wrote:
> >> You could try gztool
> >>
> >> https://github.com/circulosmeos/gztool/
> >>
> >> "gzto
aven't found all the
prerequisites.
Fetching a Debian compiled version and running deb2targz on it ends up with a
.so file, which where to put?
I haven't found it in any Gentoo overlays.
How can I get hold of a version for Gentoo?
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ot in it ! appears to resolve addresses from /etc/hosts. I
> guess that actually means firefox uses your local resolver first, and if
> it returns an rfc1918 address, will use it.
>
> Surely that should be the default! It shouldn't break a PRIVATE network
> in the name of security !!!
It is the default here, in www-client/firefox-110.0.1 .
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On Sunday, 5 March 2023 15:21:25 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Am I the only one unable to install net-libs/nodejs-18.14.2? The log file
> has some interesting entries:
It was a typo in /etc/portage/env.
Apologies for the noise.
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On Sunday, 5 March 2023 16:13:24 GMT Arve Barsnes wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 at 16:21, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > Am I the only one unable to install net-libs/nodejs-18.14.2? The log file
> > has>
> > some interesting entries:
> > *
I know it's there. Is the problem to do with python:3.11?
$ eselect python list
Available Python interpreters, in order of preference:
[1] python3.10
[2] python3.11 (fallback)
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the module to be loaded.
Now, of course, I have any likely code pages built in.
Is this a bug or a feature of the 6-series gentoo-sources, or possibly just
6.2.x? Anyway, I was going from 6.2.0 to 6.2.1 when I was tripped up.
Hope that helps someone.
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ly named variables. So I wonder
how feasible it might be for make to incorporate its own checks to ensure that
the load average is not exceeded. I am not a programmer (not for at least 35
years, anyway), so I have to leave any such suggestion to the experts.
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bengine
> dev-qt/qtwebkit
> dev-lang/spidermonkey
> www-client/chromium
> app-office/libreoffice
> sys-devel/llvm
> dev-lang/rust (I use the rust binary these days as this has gotten
> really out of hand)
> x11-libs/gtk+
Thanks for the list, Rich.
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package.env to finely tune individual package requirements.
Yes, I assumed so, and I've now set it up that way.
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On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 13:18:24 GMT Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 4:56 AM Peter Humphrey
wrote:
> > Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job -
> > that is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum number of
> &
On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 09:56:22 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote:
> EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=16 --load-average=32 --autounmask=n --quiet-
> unmerge-warn --ke>
That should have been:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=16 --load-average=32 --autounmask=n --quiet-
unmerge-warn --keep
Am Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2023, 10:56:22 CET schrieb Peter Humphrey:
> Hello list,
>
> Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - that
> is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum number of
> simultaneous jobs. I'm trying to get that
bs=16 --load-average=32 --autounmask=n --quiet-
unmerge-warn --ke>
MAKEOPTS="-j16"
Today, though, I saw load averages going up to 72. Can anyone suggest better
values to suit my 24 threads and 64GB RAM?
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On Friday, 27 January 2023 13:54:45 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday, 22 November 2022 21:58:45 GMT Dale wrote:
> > I'm top posting for those who want to ignore this message.
> >
> > This is the second message like this I've received. Is anyone else
> > gettin
On Saturday, 28 January 2023 16:08:04 GMT Jack wrote:
> On 1/28/23 05:35, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Saturday, 28 January 2023 09:17:35 GMT Michael wrote:
> >> Since my coding ability is even worse than Dale's I join him in kindly
> >> asking for a maintainer
On Friday, 27 January 2023 22:31:17 GMT Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 12:24:41 +0000, Peter Humphrey wrote:
--->8
> > I've attached the reject files.
>
> Thanks for these! It looks like it'll probably be straightforward to
> amend the patch for 6.1.
n just a maintainer though - it needs a replacement for upstream as well.
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Is this just me?
I've just had one this morning, Dale. There seems to be a problem with missing
SPF or DKIM in my outgoing messages. I'm in touch with my ISP about it.
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1 lines).
I've attached the reject files.
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--- drivers/tty/vt/vt.c
+++ drivers/tty/vt/vt.c
@@ -5353,10 +5965,19 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(screen_glyph);
u32 screen_glyph_unicode(const struct vc_data *vc, int n)
{
- struct uni_screen *uniscr = get_vc_uniscr(vc);
+ int y = n / vc->v
Hello Klaus,
have you made your kernel again after changing EXTRA_FIRMWARE ?
Maybe you want read this:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Tutorials/
Manual_kernel_configuration#Driver_needs_Firmware
Greetings,
Peter
Am Freitag, 27. Januar 2023, 11:08:58 CET schrieb Klaus Dittrich
needed [1].
Meanwhile, I used webmail to delete the offending message. I hope the lesson
has been learnt, but I'll be ready next time if not. :)
1.
https://serverfault.com/questions/327416/changing-the-maximum-mail-size-in-postfix
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it to postfix for dovecot
to serve as SMTP. This is the first trouble I've had with it and external mail.
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till getting bounce messages the same as all year.
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://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/message/
dd1fc2d5d273f8590d73302748f2cda7
Good detective work - thanks Nuno.
I'll see it it's my ISP who's bouncing the message. After that I don't know
where to look next.
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too website?
I haven't found it, if so.
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Nuno. Interesting bug, too.
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Hello list,
Today's update of my LAN server failed to resolve a block. It said it couldn't
emerge net-proxy/squid-5.7 because of:
[blocks B ]
On Saturday, 14 January 2023 07:00:29 GMT Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2023-01-13, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > Ever since the new year I've been getting a bounce message from this list
> > - 19 of them so far. The first of those listed one message twice,
time with it?
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a few minutes to find the
problem, and it was easily fixed, but I was interested to see that such a small
licence change could spread consequences so far.
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any space
> filling to happen. So I'm not convinced that scrolling, invoked by, say,
> an editor program, will work correctly.
>
Just a quick test shows it to work here. If I find anything I'll raise a flag.
Many thanks again, Alan.
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esolution.
Is there some way I can get the UEFI BIOS to boot with that font, or a larger
one? Or perhaps let the system boot without setting a font and then changing
it later?
Neither of those looks easy to do. I'd better have a good root through the
BIOS options to start with.
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On Saturday, 31 December 2022 06:07:35 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:
> The backup machine will be updated once a month "whether it needs it
> or not".
:)
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It is in:
Memory Management options --->
and you will see it only if you have enabled this:
Depends on: MEMORY_HOTPLUG [=y] && MEMORY_HOTREMOVE [=y] && SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
[=y] && ARCH_HAS_PTE_DEVMAP [=y]
You can ALWAYS search with a / in make menuconfig (leading CONFIG_ is not
necessary).
Am
of tooth enamel. :)
Seriously, though, it's just wonderful as it is, and we all owe you a debt.
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such a thing.
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On Friday, 9 December 2022 14:38:14 GMT Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 02:27:07PM + schrieb Peter Humphrey:
> > 1. Mind you, UK TV adverts are nowhere near as gross as the screeching
> > horrors I was subjected to in Minneapolis 30 years ago.
>
&g
hing
horrors I was subjected to in Minneapolis 30 years ago.
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rs to believe that was just driving
the control engineers' displays, and where was the main computer?
24-bit assembler code. Those were the days - some of my very best. No concept
of a file or a file-system.
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On Friday, 9 December 2022 00:03:29 GMT Dale wrote:
> I think back sometimes, I started out with a 30GB hard drive wy back
> in 2003. I thought I had problems then.
Then you won't want to know that I paid extra in 1990 for an 85MB drive in my
first PC. No, not GB: MB.
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36-to-40 gigabytes.
Well, I've seen that warning, and I run a plasma desktop, but I set -j48 --
jobs=48 --load-average=72 without noticeable swapping in this 64GB, 24-core
Ryzen 9 5900X machine. The one exception is qtwebengine, which wants 48GB
for itself.
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On Friday, 2 December 2022 02:40:56 GMT Lee wrote:
> Doesnt cmus play wav files?
I hadn't heard of it.
Thank you all. Several promising ideas there.
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Hello list,
What do you use to play .wav files? I've come across a collection which I'd
like to be able to play, but I can't find a usable player in Gentoo. Media-
sound/wavplay doesn't do it.
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hus, a medical condition may be aggravated by neglect.
The word you want is 'annoyance' - or just 'trouble'.
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o much.
And I wonder why anyone bothers answering him.
Let him stew in his own juice.
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for me.:-(
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On Wednesday, 2 November 2022 15:20:14 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Would someone please remind me of what frame-buffer kernel settings I need
> for an i915 driver? I'm going round in circles, but whatever I try, this
> new laptop shows the initramfs-loaded messag
ms: it's been
through the whole 6 series so far with no difficulty - even for me!
I can't remember any difficulty going from the 5 series to 6.0.0 either, even
though it was a .0 version, which we all know is generally to be suspected.
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On Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:01:14 GMT Michael wrote:
> Have a look at this page in general, paying special attention to this
> section:
>
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel#Black_screen
Useful. Thanks Michael.
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to CTRL-ALT-DEL as expected;
just no display.
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. I doubt it was ever advisable to store any user file under
/var/lib/ -- I'm sure it would cause terrible confusion at some stage. :)
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tallations and wanted to go methodically, one step at a time. First
a core set, then a broader base set, then xorg, plasma and apps. The
appropriate profile would be set for each stage. I'd set up the kernel config
after the core, so that the rest of the base packages had proper kernel
settings to read. That gave me a bootable system and I'd finish the job in the
new system itself.
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On Thursday, 27 October 2022 08:54:36 BST I wrote:
> On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 16:46:07 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 15:22:42 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > On booting the new system I get an error I haven't heard of before:
> > > drac
On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 16:46:07 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 15:22:42 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On booting the new system I get an error I haven't heard of before:
> > dracut complaining "sysroot has no proper sysfs layout". I'm sure I've
t has no proper sysfs layout". I'm sure I've done something
stupid, but where do I start debugging this? Google hasn't helped.
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f those two college dropouts still haunts the Windows world.
What a legacy.
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if you use unsigned modules. ;-) I wrote a big warning in my wiki
article:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Tutorials/
Kernel_Hardening_with_KSPP
Regards,
Peter
Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2022, 16:19:49 CEST schrieb Dr Rainer Woitok:
> Peter,
>
> On Sunday, 2022-10-23 12:45:42 +
Hi Dex,
we have a wiki article for this:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Modules#Going_completely_.22module-less.22
Greetings,
Peter
Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2022, 11:56:00 CEST schrieb Dex Conner:
> Hi all,
>
> I've went module-less and the rc service called modules is stil
On Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:24:54 BST Michael wrote:
> Thanks Peter, I've keyworded it along with half a dozen of other
> dependencies it dragged in and it is emerging now. Will mesa still be
> required, or are the two packages used for different purposes and can
> co-exist?
I don
an AMD Radeon Pro
WX5100.
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; pipewire. I think I'll have to install it manually on the system which
> doesn't bring it in as some dependency. Somehow I was under the impression
> it comes with Plasma these days, but perhaps I have stripped down this
> Plasma/kde installation too much.
I have no pipewire on this fairly standard Plasma box.
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On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 12:05:19 BST Nils Freydank wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> long story short: AFAICT it's a deprecated or moved configuration entry
> inside the file /etc/machine-info and should be safe to just delete, maybe
> even with the whole file machine-info itself.
>
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