On Monday, September 26, 2011 10:26:03 PM Jonas de Buhr wrote:
I am assuming that unlike the old days when I used to boot Linux on
PCs using a floppy with SmartBootManager, now we'll need to generate
some key/hash for our freshly compiled kernel, then add it to the BIOS
firmware and flash the
Am 26.09.2011 21:56, schrieb Michael Mol:
Is it more complicated than that?
Just a hunch, but I think the BIOS will probably be signed. Perhaps in
replacement of the existing checksum functionality.
I have something like that on my Motorola Milestone Android Phone.
It is not possible to
On Monday, September 26, 2011 10:26:03 PM Jonas de Buhr wrote:
I am assuming that unlike the old days when I used to boot Linux on
PCs using a floppy with SmartBootManager, now we'll need to generate
some key/hash for our freshly compiled kernel, then add it to the
BIOS firmware and flash the
On Tuesday 27 Sep 2011 13:11:30 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2011 10:26:03 PM Jonas de Buhr wrote:
I am assuming that unlike the old days when I used to boot Linux on
PCs using a floppy with SmartBootManager, now we'll need to generate
some key/hash for our freshly compiled
I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI
boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to
exclude other operating systems from available hardware?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/26/uefi_linux_lock_out_row_latest/
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Regards,
Mick
On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:31:10 PM IST, Mick wrote:
I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI
boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to
exclude other operating systems from available hardware?
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan
cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:
On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:31:10 PM IST, Mick wrote:
I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI
boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to
exclude other operating
On 26 September 2011 16:01, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI
boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to
exclude other operating systems from available hardware?
My opinion is that signed
On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:51:17 PM IST, James Broadhead wrote:
On 26 September 2011 16:01, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI
boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to
exclude other operating
On 26 September 2011 16:26, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:
And you really need not worry about it, some geek (Torvalds?) will
surely find out a way.
Oh, I don't doubt that I'll be able to boot Linux, I just think that
we're going to enter another era where setting up a
Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:51:17 PM IST, James Broadhead wrote:
On 26 September 2011 16:01, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI
boot what are the workarounds to compensate for Microsoft's efforts to
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:51:17 PM IST, James Broadhead wrote:
On 26 September 2011 16:01, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into UEFI
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:56:20 +0530
Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:
On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:51:17 PM IST, James Broadhead wrote:
On 26 September 2011 16:01, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into
UEFI boot what
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:56:20 +0530
Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:
As this is being touted a win8 feature (with win8 set for release
sometime in 2012), I predict this will be defeated before the first
Michael Mol wrote:
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
Well, since I don't have or use M$'s junk, I guess I am OK then? I just
need to make sure any mobo I buy in the future either doesn't have this or
can be disabled?
Heck, if you
between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a cracked
boot, with little in the way of switching between the two, at least
initially
I know which one I'd pick if it came down to it :)
And you really need not worry about it, some geek (Torvalds?) will
surely find out a way.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote:
between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a cracked
boot, with little in the way of switching between the two, at least
initially
I know which one I'd pick if it came down to it :)
And you really
On Monday 26 Sep 2011 20:29:14 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a cracked
boot, with little in the way of switching between the two, at least
initially
I know which one I'd pick if it came down to it :)
And you really need not worry
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday 26 Sep 2011 20:29:14 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a cracked
boot, with little in the way of switching between the two, at least
initially
I know which one
yes, there will most likely be a technical way to circumvent it. the
problem is that involved companies might try (and likely succeed) to
make that illegal.
the reasoning will be this: it is assumed that you only make that
modification to run pirated copies of commercial operating systems.
On 26 September 2011 20:29, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote:
between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a cracked
boot, with little in the way of switching between the two, at least
initially
And you really need not worry about it, some geek (Torvalds?) will
surely
I am assuming that unlike the old days when I used to boot Linux on
PCs using a floppy with SmartBootManager, now we'll need to generate
some key/hash for our freshly compiled kernel, then add it to the BIOS
firmware and flash the BIOS with it before we are able to boot into it?
Is it more
On 26 September 2011 20:29, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net
wrote:
between a fully-signed system (Windows 9 / OS XI or so) or a
cracked boot, with little in the way of switching between the two,
at least initially
And you really need not worry about it, some geek (Torvalds?) will
surely
Am 26.09.2011 21:56, schrieb Michael Mol:
Is it more complicated than that?
Just a hunch, but I think the BIOS will probably be signed. Perhaps in
replacement of the existing checksum functionality.
I have something like that on my Motorola Milestone Android Phone.
It is not possible to
On Monday 26 Sep 2011 21:26:03 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
I am assuming that unlike the old days when I used to boot Linux on
PCs using a floppy with SmartBootManager, now we'll need to generate
some key/hash for our freshly compiled kernel, then add it to the BIOS
firmware and flash the BIOS with
I used to build and blueprint my own engines (cars and motorbikes).
Then gradually cars became electronic appliances, locked down to the
extent where engine modifications became difficult and expensive to
implement. I fear that PCs and before that laptops may be heading the
same way. :-(
this
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 11:15 -0500, Dale wrote:
So buy a mobo without it or that can disable it. Got it. It'll be a
good while before I buy a new mobo tho. I'm sure they will have a
nice
fix by then but this is something I need to remember just in
case. ;-)
Ok, I'll bite...
It depends
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:46:21 -0400
Albert W. Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
On the server side, I don't think there is any major server
manufacturer dumb enough to sell a system not capable of running
Linux.
How very true. If a manufacturer tried that, they would lose the entire
ISP
Albert W. Hopkins wrote:
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 11:15 -0500, Dale wrote:
So buy a mobo without it or that can disable it. Got it. It'll be a
good while before I buy a new mobo tho. I'm sure they will have a
nice
fix by then but this is something I need to remember just in
case. ;-)
Ok, I'll
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 06:46:21PM -0400, Albert W. Hopkins wrote:
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 11:15 -0500, Dale wrote:
So buy a mobo without it or that can disable it. Got it. It'll be a
good while before I buy a new mobo tho. I'm sure they will have a
nice
fix by then but this is
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