Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-12 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 12 October 2006 08:17, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: Thanks all.  I guess I now understand how it works. Someone noted that if you update sshd for example, a restart would be in order afterward.  This would seem to be true of a lot of programs.  So would a total restart of the system

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-12 Thread PaulNM
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: It would of course solve the issue. *Nothing* short of a kernel upgrade requires a reboot though. And I mean that literally. So usually not. Just being a bit pedantic here, but what about init? Even switching to runlevel 1 would leave it running. Is it possible to

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 11 October 2006 19:43, Michael Sullivan wrote: Wow, files can exist without file names.  I think I found a topic for discussion in philosophy class... Nope. A file is an inode and that either eists or doesn't. A filename is just a dentry in a directory, it is not the file itself,

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 12 October 2006 08:42, PaulNM wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: It would of course solve the issue. *Nothing* short of a kernel upgrade requires a reboot though. And I mean that literally. So usually not. Just being a bit pedantic here, but what about init? Even switching to

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 12 October 2006 01:42, PaulNM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question': Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: It would of course solve the issue. *Nothing* short of a kernel upgrade requires a reboot though. And I mean that literally. So usually not. Just being

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-11 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:42:33 -0500 Troy Curtis Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/06, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using Gentoo for more than 2 years now and have always wondered (but never asked - That's the dumb part) how Gentoo manages to update a package

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-11 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Troy Curtis Jr wrote: On 10/10/06, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using Gentoo for more than 2 years now and have always wondered (but never asked - That's the dumb part) how Gentoo manages to update a package that happens to be running at the time. Given that the old

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-11 Thread Pawel Kraszewski
Dnia środa, 11 października 2006 06:21, Anthony E. Caudel napisał: I have been using Gentoo for more than 2 years now and have always wondered (but never asked - That's the dumb part) how Gentoo manages to update a package that happens to be running at the time. Given that the old version

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:30:59 -0500, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I suspected it might be memory. However I still find it difficult. If I'm running KDE for example, it requires at least kdelibs which is a lot to hold in memory. Programs only load the libraries they use, you're unlikely to have

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-11 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I have been using Gentoo for more than 2 years now and have always wondered (but never asked - That's the dumb part) how Gentoo manages to update a package that happens to be running at the time. Given that the old version (the one running) is

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-11 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Nick Rout wrote: which leads top the point that if you update a daemon like sshd, yopu need to restart it, or else you are still running the old daemon. And ... if the startup scripts change or a major version bump occurs, a clean shutdown should happen BEFORE the new package is installed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:05:12 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: And ... if the startup scripts change or a major version bump occurs, a clean shutdown should happen BEFORE the new package is installed. The portage system really should shutdown any services before an upgrade occurs. So

[gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-10 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
I have been using Gentoo for more than 2 years now and have always wondered (but never asked - That's the dumb part) how Gentoo manages to update a package that happens to be running at the time. Given that the old version (the one running) is deleted, how does it manage to keep standing if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question

2006-10-10 Thread Troy Curtis Jr
On 10/10/06, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using Gentoo for more than 2 years now and have always wondered (but never asked - That's the dumb part) how Gentoo manages to update a package that happens to be running at the time. Given that the old version (the one