Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 01:13:50PM + schrieb Michael: > > > Good points. I am a big fan of having stuff locally as well, because I don’t > want to be dependent on a company’s servers and a working Internet connection. > But this mostly applies to my mobile device,

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 02:27:07PM + schrieb Peter Humphrey: > On Friday, 9 December 2022 13:38:32 GMT Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > ...I never really bothered with live TV recordings in recent years. These > > days, if I find something interesting, I download the show form the TV > >

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 9 December 2022 13:38:32 GMT Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > ...I never really bothered with live TV recordings in recent years. These > days, if I find something interesting, I download the show form the TV > channel’s website (called Mediathek in Germany, a word play on Bibliothek, >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 8:13 AM Michael wrote: > > Actually this had me thinking what is the need to back up the ... Internet? I'm sure the NSA knows the answer to this. Based on discussions I've had with people who are into such things they basically have their own Wayback machine, except it

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > <<>> > > Path two, I've researched building a NAS using a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB as > another option.  They come as parts, cases too, but the newer and faster > models of Raspberry Pi 4 with more ram seem to work pretty well.  The > old slower models with small amounts of ram

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 01:13:50PM + schrieb Michael: > > > I get the impression Dale isn't actually PLANNING his disk storage. It's > > > just a case of "help I'm downloading all this stuff where do I put it!!!" > > > > Haha, thanks for the laugh. > > Actually this had me thinking what is

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 8 December 2022 20:44:56 GMT Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 06:36:14PM + schrieb Wols Lists: > > > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups. I'm up to a 16TB > > > > hard > > > > drive for one and even that won't last long. Larger drives are much

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 9 December 2022 08:27:18 GMT Wol wrote: > On 09/12/2022 00:45, Dale wrote: > > I even remember when 512KBs of ram was a big deal. I also remember > > having expansion cards that would add a few MBs of ram. Jeez I'm > > getting old. o_O We talk about TBs like they are nothing. My

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Dale
Wol wrote: > On 09/12/2022 01:15, Dale wrote: >> Given the size of one of the directories I have, it takes two drives, or >> soon will, and the use of LVM or something similar.  I can't do that as >> it is now.  I've even wondered if I hooked two eSATA drives up and gave >> both plenty of time to

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Wol
On 09/12/2022 00:45, Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday, 9 December 2022 00:03:29 GMT Dale wrote: I think back sometimes, I started out with a 30GB hard drive wy back in 2003. I thought I had problems then. Then you won't want to know that I paid extra in 1990 for an 85MB drive

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Wol
On 09/12/2022 00:03, Dale wrote: I think back sometimes, I started out with a 30GB hard drive wy back in 2003.  I thought I had problems then.  O_O The first drive I bought was - iirc - a 2GB 5.1/4" Bigfoot. For a Pentium system where the mobo took chips with a max capacity of 32MB. That

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Wol
On 09/12/2022 01:15, Dale wrote: Given the size of one of the directories I have, it takes two drives, or soon will, and the use of LVM or something similar.  I can't do that as it is now.  I've even wondered if I hooked two eSATA drives up and gave both plenty of time to spin up if LVM would

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread William Kenworthy
* didn't send to the list the first time :( On 9/12/22 07:30, Dale wrote: I just wonder, could I use that board and just hook it to my USB port and a external power supply and skip the Raspberry Pi part?  I'd bet not tho.  ;-) Dale :-)  :-) Check this one:

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 05:30:18PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > >>> I use USB3 hard drives on Pis for my bulk storage because I care about >>> capacity far more than performance, and with a distributed filesystem >>> the performance is still good enough for what I'm doing. If

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 9 December 2022 00:03:29 GMT Dale wrote: > >> I think back sometimes, I started out with a 30GB hard drive wy back >> in 2003. I thought I had problems then. > Then you won't want to know that I paid extra in 1990 for an 85MB drive in my > first PC. No, not

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Daniel Frey wrote: > On 12/8/22 05:58, Dale wrote: >> >> >> I was thinking DAS was not a good option.  It seems like a feature >> removed and cheaper version of NAS. >> >> I think I've seen a couple Synology NAS boxes but I think even used >> they were a bit pricey.  Still, used could make that a

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 9 December 2022 00:03:29 GMT Dale wrote: > I think back sometimes, I started out with a 30GB hard drive wy back > in 2003. I thought I had problems then. Then you won't want to know that I paid extra in 1990 for an 85MB drive in my first PC. No, not GB: MB. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 05:30:18PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > I use USB3 hard drives on Pis for my bulk storage because I care about > > capacity far more than performance, and with a distributed filesystem > > the performance is still good enough for what I'm doing. If I needed > > block storage

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:30 PM Dale wrote: >> One thing I like about the Raspberry option, I can upgrade it later. I >> can simply take out the old, put in new, upgrade done. If I buy a >> prebuilt NAS, they pretty much are what they are if upgrading isn't a >> option.

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:30 PM Dale wrote: > > One thing I like about the Raspberry option, I can upgrade it later. I > can simply take out the old, put in new, upgrade done. If I buy a > prebuilt NAS, they pretty much are what they are if upgrading isn't a > option. Some of the more expensive

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Daniel Frey
On 12/8/22 05:58, Dale wrote: I was thinking DAS was not a good option.  It seems like a feature removed and cheaper version of NAS. I think I've seen a couple Synology NAS boxes but I think even used they were a bit pricey.  Still, used could make that a option. Maybe.  It could fall

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 7:37 AM Dale wrote: >> Path two, I've researched building a NAS using a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB as >> another option. They come as parts, cases too, but the newer and faster >> models of Raspberry Pi 4 with more ram seem to work pretty well. > For this

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 11:56 AM Laurence Perkins wrote: > > Pine64 has an interesting array of SBCs which are both cheaper and (some are) > possibly better suited to becoming a NAS than a Pi. One of them even has a > PCIe socket I think. > I have the RockPro64 and I'll go ahead and warn you

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 08/12/2022 13:31, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 5:38 AM Dale > > wrote: >>  > >>  > Howdy, >>  > >>  > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB >> hard >>  > drive for one and even that won't last

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 06:36:14PM + schrieb Wols Lists: > > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB hard > > > drive for one and even that won't last long.  Larger drives are much > > > more costly.  A must have NAS is quickly approaching.  I've been > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 11:36 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > > > DAS is direct-attached-storage. I don't think you want that. > > Depends. If it fits in the safe, and can be connected using one of these > eSATA thingy connectors, it might be a very good choice. First, I Agree about 300% with

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/12/2022 13:31, Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 5:38 AM Dale > wrote: > > Howdy, > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB hard > drive for one and even that won't last long.  Larger drives are much > more costly. 

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:59 AM Dale wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > DAS is direct-attached-storage. I don't think you want that. > I was thinking DAS was not a good option. It seems like a feature removed and cheaper version of NAS. I've never touched a DAS box but my limited understanding

RE: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Laurence Perkins
> -Original Message- > From: Rich Freeman > Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 6:12 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:59 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > &

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:59 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > You could, but this is either a sink-hole for time, or you need to get up to > speed with cross-compiling and binhosts. I went with the standard Debian and > evaluate Arch from time to time. But I do run Gentoo on my DIY NAS with an >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 06:37:52AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > Howdy, > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB hard > drive for one and even that won't last long.  Larger drives are much > more costly.  A must have NAS is quickly approaching. Hear hear, ye olde story. ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 5:38 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > Howdy, > > > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB hard > > drive for one and even that won't last long.  Larger drives are much > > more costly.  A must have

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 7:37 AM Dale wrote: > > Path two, I've researched building a NAS using a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB as > another option. They come as parts, cases too, but the newer and faster > models of Raspberry Pi 4 with more ram seem to work pretty well. For this sort of application the key

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 5:38 AM Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups. I'm up to a 16TB hard > drive for one and even that won't last long. Larger drives are much > more costly. A must have NAS is quickly approaching. I've been > searching around and find

[gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Howdy, I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB hard drive for one and even that won't last long.  Larger drives are much more costly.  A must have NAS is quickly approaching.  I've been searching around and find some things confusing.  I'm hoping someone can clear up

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