Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Mick wrote: > > I am mostly happy with openrc and therefore have no reason to move to the > systemd monoculture, unless gentoo falls in line with Debian et al. and leaves > me no choice. > I don't really see that happening anytime soon - it will be more likely to b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-06 Thread Mick
On Friday 06 Jun 2014 12:18:09 Rich Freeman wrote: > That would be udev. It has been around long before systemd, and you > must have missed the huge flamewar when they renamed it to > systemd-udevd. Maybe we'll see "java" renamed to > "java-by-oracle-with-ask-toolbar" next. :) TBH I wouldn't b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Mick wrote: > On Friday 06 Jun 2014 00:15:02 Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >> I bet you have quite a lot of systemd components lurking in the background >> though, ready to take over the world the next time you aren't looking :-) > > Ha! I can already see this one: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Friday 06 Jun 2014 00:15:02 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 05 June 2014 13:58:45 Mick wrote: > > .., I've keyworded sys-power/upower-0.99.0 for now on one machine > > and it seems to work fine, without imposing systemd at the moment. :-) > > I bet you have quite a lot of systemd component

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 05 June 2014 13:58:45 Mick wrote: > .., I've keyworded sys-power/upower-0.99.0 for now on one machine > and it seems to work fine, without imposing systemd at the moment. :-) I bet you have quite a lot of systemd components lurking in the background though, ready to take over the wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 12:26:09 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 05/06/14 13:47, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 06:23:38 +0100 > > > > Mick wrote: > >> Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a > >> gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 13:47, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 06:23:38 +0100 > Mick wrote: > >> Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a >> gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they >> want/need to continue using sleep and hibernate? > For them to hav

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 06:23:38 +0100 Mick wrote: > Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a > gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they > want/need to continue using sleep and hibernate? For them to have support for sleep and hibernate, someone needs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 10:08:53 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 05/06/14 12:03, Mick wrote: > > On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 08:25:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: > >>> Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a > >>> gentoo user will have to switch fr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 12:03, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 08:25:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: >>> Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a >>> gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they >>> want/need to continue using sle

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 08:25:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: > > Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a > > gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they > > want/need to continue using sleep and hibernate? > > For those t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 04 Jun 2014 23:27:05 Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote: >>> On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200 >>> >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision still works fine and likely w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 04 Jun 2014 23:27:05 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200 > > > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision > >> still works fine and likely will for ages to come. That code ha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision >> still works fine and likely will for ages to come. That code has been >> bundled into a new package upower-pm-utils. >> >> Anyone th

[gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision > still works fine and likely will for ages to come. That code has been > bundled into a new package upower-pm-utils. > > Anyone that feels like doing it can now step up t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 03 June 2014 10:39:10 »Q« wrote: > I figured out what I wanted to do (uninstall upower, install > upower-pm-utils) by reading the changelogs, but I don't know what my > other options were. Could I have stuck with upower, letting it pull in > systemd, without messing up openrc? Apparen

[gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-03 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 18:14:56 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > (I think I'll be forced to write up some minimal news item just to > shut up the loud minority who can't be bothered to do anything > themselfs, like even read package ChangeLogs if they stumble upon > something manual.) I figured out w