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From: Mark Kirkwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 January 2007 23:49
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 09:58, Alan McKinnon
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On Thursday 01 February 2007, Nelson, David (ED, PARD) wrote:
Also Pentium-M has a lower latency L2 cache than P-4. With respect
to pipeline lengths I was curious to see what they actually
were: P-4 has
20 stages, P-M has.. err... 20 stages (Intel won't say exactly!).
I found this an
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:25:52 -0600, Dan Farrell wrote:
available. It takes around 15 hours :(
distcc + crossdev = ; )
im not sure, but i bet you can maybe build G4 code on another box.
It's possible, but the OOo build disables multiple processing unless you
set WANT_MP=1, so distcc
2GHz Centrino
2GB Ram
80G SATA
2.6.19-suspend2-r1
Odd. My 2.8GHz Pentium 4 takes *far* longer to compile OO, something close to
10h, though I haven't really timed it.
Memory is essential for compiling, so a guess would be that you
have less than 1 GB RAM. Maybe even 1GB is not
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:43:00 +0100
Ralf Stephan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2GHz Centrino
2GB Ram
80G SATA
2.6.19-suspend2-r1
Odd. My 2.8GHz Pentium 4 takes *far* longer to compile OO,
something close to 10h, though I haven't really timed it.
frankly, in my experience pentium 4s
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 16:06, Uwe Thiem wrote:
On 30 January 2007 15:52, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 15:22, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Anyway if you know
how to do that you certainly know how to avoid that /tmp gets
wiped during reboot too (which it doesn't
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 18:26, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
snip
And OOo only takes 5½ hours to compile.. :p
Not on my 1GHz G4 iBook, for which there are no binary packages
available. It takes around 15 hours :(
So when are the Openoffice people going to break it
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 13:22:36 Uwe Thiem wrote:
KDE is in so far better as it doesn't forbit parallel compiling - as OO
does. So I can use distcc and let all my boxes contribute. That brings the
compile time of KDE down a lot. Unfortunately, that isn't possible with OO.
Actually it
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 14:22, Uwe Thiem wrote:
On 31 January 2007 13:02, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 16:06, Uwe Thiem wrote:
What are the specs of your box?
Dell Latitude D810
2GHz Centrino
2GB Ram
80G SATA
2.6.19-suspend2-r1
Odd. My 2.8GHz Pentium 4
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 14:34, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 13:22:36 Uwe Thiem wrote:
KDE is in so far better as it doesn't forbit parallel compiling -
as OO does. So I can use distcc and let all my boxes contribute.
That brings the compile time of KDE down a
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 18:26, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
snip
And OOo only takes 5½ hours to compile.. :p
Not on my 1GHz G4 iBook, for which there are no binary packages
available. It takes around 15 hours :(
So when are the Openoffice people
On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Furthermore Pentium 4 is a joke (it performs horribly). A 2 GHz
(Dothan I presume) Pentium-M should be faster than a 2,8 GHz Pentium
4. My timing is for an 1,6 GHz (Banias) Pentium-M btw.
This sounds odd, but I'm not a cpu expert so can't
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 09:58, Alan McKinnon
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Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles':
On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Furthermore Pentium 4 is a joke (it performs horribly). A 2 GHz
(Dothan I presume) Pentium-M should
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 09:58, Alan McKinnon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user]
Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles':
On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Furthermore Pentium 4 is a joke (it performs horribly). A 2 GHz
(Dothan
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:16:01 +0200
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
available. It takes around 15 hours :(
distcc + crossdev = ; )
im not sure, but i bet you can maybe build G4 code on another box.
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On Tuesday 30 January 2007 19:22, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles':
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:45:26 -0700, Steve Dibb wrote:
Not necessarily. tmpfs will start to use the harddrive when it runs
out of memory, that being one if its
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:12:22 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I don't trust my memory either so I looked it up. The most recent copy
of FHS I have is 2.2:
The /tmp directory must be made available for programs that require
temporary files.
Programs must not assume that any files or
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 11:29, Neil Bothwick wrote:
The /var/tmp directory is made available for programs that require
temporary files or directories that are preserved between system
reboots. Therefore, data stored in /var/tmp is more persistent than
data in /tmp.
So it does say that
On Monday 29 January 2007 20:12:22 Alan McKinnon wrote:
Why not just keep it as /var/tmp? Defined as:
The /var/tmp directory is made available for programs that require
temporary files or directories that are preserved between system
reboots. Therefore, data stored in /var/tmp is more
I think you confused my message. When I said I've always been told...
I didn't mean I was told it was part of the standard, I mean it is
common knowledge, common sense, rule-of-thumb, best practice --
whatever. Yes there is FHS but I don't consider it the Bible. most
distros break FHS in some
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:22:07 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Why would PORTAGE_TMPDIR be required to or in any way benefit from
surviving reboots?
Ask that when you've had a power failure ten hours into an OOo emerge :-O
--
Neil Bothwick
If at first you don't suceed, try the switch marked
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 14:09:43 Neil Bothwick wrote:
Why would PORTAGE_TMPDIR be required to or in any way benefit from
surviving reboots?
Ask that when you've had a power failure ten hours into an OOo emerge :-O
So you actually used FEATURES=keepwork for that? Anyway if you know how to
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 14:22, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
On Monday 29 January 2007 20:12:22 Alan McKinnon wrote:
Why not just keep it as /var/tmp? Defined as:
The /var/tmp directory is made available for programs that require
temporary files or directories that are preserved between
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 15:22, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 14:09:43 Neil Bothwick wrote:
Why would PORTAGE_TMPDIR be required to or in any way benefit
from surviving reboots?
Ask that when you've had a power failure ten hours into an OOo
emerge :-O
So you
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 14:52:37 Alan McKinnon wrote:
Ask that when you've had a power failure ten hours into an OOo
emerge :-O
So you actually used FEATURES=keepwork for that?
Doesn't FEATURES=keepwork cause /var/tmp/portage/pkg cat/pkg name to
not be deleted after a *successful*
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:22:10 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Ask that when you've had a power failure ten hours into an OOo
emerge :-O
So you actually used FEATURES=keepwork for that?
I tend to use ebuild /pah/to/ebuild package followed by emerge -K
package.
And OOo only takes 5½
On 30 January 2007 15:52, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 15:22, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Anyway if you know
how to do that you certainly know how to avoid that /tmp gets wiped
during reboot too (which it doesn't unless you make it so). And OOo
only takes 5½ hours to
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 14:35, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:22:10 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Ask that when you've had a power failure ten hours into an OOo
emerge :-O
So you actually used FEATURES=keepwork for that?
I tend to use ebuild /pah/to/ebuild package
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:10:45 +, Mick wrote:
Not on my 1GHz G4 iBook, for which there are no binary packages
available. It takes around 15 hours :(
Ha, ha! :)
Sat Mar 18 21:22:50 2006 app-office/openoffice-2.0.1-r1
merge time: 23 hours, 30 minutes and 58 seconds.
Ok, just to prove it could be done (and because I was bored). I
compiled openoffice entirely in /tmp which is tmpfs in about 5:07.
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:18:26 -0600, Albert Hopkins wrote:
Ok, just to prove it could be done (and because I was bored). I
compiled openoffice entirely in /tmp which is tmpfs in about 5:07.
That's fine if you have 8GB of RAM...
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Neil Bothwick
IRQs? We don't need no stinking IRQs!
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:18:26 -0600, Albert Hopkins wrote:
Ok, just to prove it could be done (and because I was bored). I
compiled openoffice entirely in /tmp which is tmpfs in about 5:07.
That's fine if you have 8GB of RAM...
Not necessarily. tmpfs will start to
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:45:26 -0700, Steve Dibb wrote:
Not necessarily. tmpfs will start to use the harddrive when it runs
out of memory, that being one if its nice handy dandy features.
Really? The lat time I tried putting /tmp on tmpfs on this box, I had
problems when VMware tried to save
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 09:38 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:40, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not
default to /tmp?
I've been running PORTAGE_TMPDIR in /tmp for at least a couple of years
without any issues
On Monday 29 January 2007 15:20, Albert Hopkins wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 09:38 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
The real nature of /tmp isn't adequate for portage, that's why it
uses a different one. If memory serves, the FHS defines /tmp as a
temporary place to store files, and the
On Monday 29 January 2007 08:38:08 Alan McKinnon wrote:
If memory serves, the FHS defines /tmp as a temporary
place to store files, and the continued existence of the file after a
process has finished is not guaranteed.
Gentoo does not and never did follow FHS. Really /var/tmp is just a
On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:40, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not
default to /tmp?
The real nature of /tmp isn't adequate for portage, that's why it uses a
different one. If memory serves, the FHS defines /tmp as a temporary
place to
Hello,
My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it
to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the
time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I
don't use, but I hope to keep them until the planned reinstall of
Gentoo, so
On Saturday 27 January 2007 13:16, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
Hello,
My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it
to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the
time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I
don't use, but I hope
Vlad Dogaru wrote:
Hello,
My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it
to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the
time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I
don't use, but I hope to keep them until the planned
On 1/27/07, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vlad Dogaru wrote:
Hello,
My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it
to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the
time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I
don't use,
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:40 +0200, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
Hossa.
I had no idea about these settings in make.conf or about eclean. I
apologise for not having read the proverbial manual thoroughly enough.
One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not
default to /tmp?
On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:14, Jürgen Geuter wrote:
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:40 +0200, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not
default to /tmp?
Many people have an extra partition
for /tmp that is mounted noexec to give people less
On 1/27/07, Jeffrey Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:14, Jürgen Geuter wrote:
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:40 +0200, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not
default to /tmp?
Many people have an extra partition
for
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:05:18 +, Jeffrey Rollin wrote:
I would add that since /tmp is often cleaned on boot-up, /var/tmp is
considered a less temporary place than /tmp. For example, if you hose
your /opt/foo directory, then assuming you have an appropriate version
of /foo in
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