On Sun, March 18, 2012 8:30 am, Michael Mol wrote:
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
On March 17, 2012 at 8:43 PM Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
initramfs side of things. I did have to use one to bring up my server
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:13:02 +0800, wdk@moriah wrote:
Have two here - disk less atoms as mythtv front ends - seems a common
use case in the mythtv world. And another advantage is they sidestep
the whole /user mess :)
I've tried that in the past. Now I use the internal disk on the Acer
Aspire
On 03/17/2012 05:11:23 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote:
This item just appeared after eix-sync:
HTPC ~ # eselect news read
2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking
Title udev-181 unmasking
AuthorWilliam Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org
Posted2012-03-16
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:00:37 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote:
Personally I stopped bothering with a separate /usr ages ago, so I don't
really care.
Having given this some thought recently, I am coming round to the view
that the problem is /usr itself. It may have had a place when boot disks
were
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:09:14 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Your sarcasm fails because you think that there is an intrinsic reason
to keep / seperate. Well, with / filled with usefull binaries to bring
a hosed system back from the garbage pile that was true for some peole.
But with the
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:50:28 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
How do I find out if I am actually *using* an initramfs right now (I
know it is built into the kernel), and
If CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE is not set in your kernel config and you do
not have an initrd line in GRUB, you are not using an
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:00:37 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote:
Personally I stopped bothering with a separate /usr ages ago, so I don't
really care.
Having given this some thought recently, I am coming round to the view
that
On 19/03/2012 04:03, William Kenworthy wrote:
On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 18:30 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:39:59 -0500
Dale
William Kenworthy writes:
On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 18:30 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
My laptop has used dracut since months ago, and suspends/resumes just
fine, as it does my media center.
Genkernel doesnt, bugs and work arounds on gentoo bugzilla, with angry
comments from a dev that
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:17:01 +
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:00:37 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote:
Personally I stopped bothering with a separate /usr ages ago, so I
don't really care.
Having given this some thought recently, I am coming round to the view
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 01:04:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
- */bin vs */sbin is one. Nothing to do with security, but */sbin can
go in root's PATH and apps that only makes sense when run as root (eg
mkfs) go there. This avoids cluttering the display with useful crap
from tab-completion.
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:33:39 +
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
As for making /usr read-only; it is generally only writeable by root
and anyone with the root password could remount rw anyway, so there's
not much point there.
I was thinking here more of /usr mounted -t nfs
root on
Have two here - disk less atoms as mythtv front ends - seems a common use case
in the mythtv world. And another advantage is they sidestep the whole /user
mess :)
BillK
On 20/03/2012, at 7:49, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:33:39 +
Neil Bothwick
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
On March 17, 2012 at 8:43 PM Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
initramfs side of things. I did have to use one to bring up my server
with / on a RAID6, not because I needed it long term but
On March 18, 2012 at 2:30 AM Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
On March 17, 2012 at 8:43 PM Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
initramfs side of things. I did have to use one
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
On March 18, 2012 at 2:30 AM Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
On March 17, 2012 at 8:43 PM Mark Knecht
For more information on why this has been done, see the following URL:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken
s/separate-usr/systemd and udev/
Too bad I'm not a developer. If udev and systemd become mandatory on
Gentoo, I'll seriously consider LFS (Linux From
pk wrote:
On 2012-03-17 21:09, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
seriously, you have seemed to miss some news. There is a move by redhatco
to
move almost everything from / to /usr. With nothing left than some
mountpoints
- why put / on its own partition? There is nothing to contain apart
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 17 March 2012 12:54:53 Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
genkernel is pretty simple to use if you ask me.
just
emerege genkernel
and then use
genkerenl --menuconfig all
it will do everything for you the same as in a regular kernel
compiling.
you have
On March 18, 2012 at 3:54 AM Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
I recall reading on this list a week or two ago that kernel
autoassembly of 0.90 arrays was deprecated. :(
--
:wq
Works on my computers.
And mine. But 'deprecated' means 'this may go away in the future'.
My
Am Sonntag, 18. März 2012, 08:01:59 schrieb Bruce Hill, Jr.:
On March 18, 2012 at 3:54 AM Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
I recall reading on this list a week or two ago that kernel
autoassembly of 0.90 arrays was deprecated. :(
--
:wq
Works on my computers.
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 04:51:54 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I been thinking about that *BSD stuff lately. Hm, maybe I need to
do some research on this and give it a try.
Give it a try, you might be pleasantly surprised.
For single purpose servers, FreeBSD beats Linux hands down
On March 18, 2012 at 8:47 AM Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag, 18. März 2012, 08:01:59 schrieb Bruce Hill, Jr.:
On March 18, 2012 at 3:54 AM Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
I recall reading on this list a week or two ago that kernel
autoassembly
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
On March 17, 2012 at 8:43 PM Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
initramfs side of things. I did have to use one to bring up my server
with / on a RAID6, not because I needed it long term but
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
I recall reading on this list a week or two ago that kernel
autoassembly of 0.90 arrays was deprecated. :(
--
:wq
I don't know about 'depreciated' as that has a sort of special
meaning, but Neil Brown has been
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 04:51:54 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I been thinking about that *BSD stuff lately. Hm, maybe I need to
do some research on this and give it a try.
Give it a try, you might be pleasantly surprised.
For single purpose servers,
Am Sonntag, 18. März 2012, 09:23:00 schrieb Bruce Hill, Jr.:
On March 18, 2012 at 8:47 AM Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag, 18. März 2012, 08:01:59 schrieb Bruce Hill, Jr.:
On March 18, 2012 at 3:54 AM Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
I recall
On 2012-03-17 8:54 AM, Eliezer Croitoru elie...@ngtech.co.il wrote:
genkernel is pretty simple to use if you ask me.
just
emerege genkernel
Thanks, but... what part of I have never used genkernel, and have no
desire to... did you not understand?
On 2012-03-18 9:29 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know about 'depreciated' as that has a sort of special
meaning,
pet-peeve
it is deprecATED, not deprecIated
/pet-peeve
On 18/03/2012 11:52, Dale wrote:
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 17 March 2012 12:54:53 Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
genkernel is pretty simple to use if you ask me.
just
emerege genkernel
and then use
genkerenl --menuconfig all
it will do everything for you the same as in a regular kernel
Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
On 18/03/2012 11:52, Dale wrote:
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 17 March 2012 12:54:53 Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
genkernel is pretty simple to use if you ask me.
just
emerege genkernel
and then use
genkerenl --menuconfig all
it will do everything for you the
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:39:59 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
On 18/03/2012 11:52, Dale wrote:
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 17 March 2012 12:54:53 Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
genkernel is pretty simple to use if you ask me.
just
emerege genkernel
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:39:59 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
On 18/03/2012 11:52, Dale wrote:
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 17 March 2012 12:54:53 Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 18:30 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:39:59 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
On 18/03/2012 11:52, Dale wrote:
Peter Humphrey
This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of
udev =181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your
system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr.
[...]
Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon.
The problem, if you really want to call this
Hello Bruce,
Thanks for the heads up.
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 12:11:23AM -0400, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote:
This item just appeared after eix-sync:
udev-181 is being unmasked on 2012-03-19.
Why is he in such a hurry?
For more information on why this has been done, see the following URL:
On March 17, 2012 at 4:00 AM Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net wrote:
This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of
udev =181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot
your
system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr.
[...]
Happy Computer Users,
On March 17, 2012 at 7:59 AM Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hello Bruce,
Thanks for the heads up.
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 12:11:23AM -0400, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote:
This item just appeared after eix-sync:
udev-181 is being unmasked on 2012-03-19.
Why is he in such a hurry?
For
On 2012-03-17 12:11 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
An initramfs which does this is created by
=sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.25.1 or
=sys-kernel/dracut-017-r1. If you do not want to use these tools, be
sure any initramfs you create pre-mounts /usr.
Ok, I have never
On 17/03/2012 14:50, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2012-03-17 12:11 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
An initramfs which does this is created by
=sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.25.1 or
=sys-kernel/dracut-017-r1. If you do not want to use these tools, be
sure any initramfs you create
On Saturday 17 March 2012 12:54:53 Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
genkernel is pretty simple to use if you ask me.
just
emerege genkernel
and then use
genkerenl --menuconfig all
it will do everything for you the same as in a regular kernel
compiling.
you have instructions on how to use
On 17-Mar-12 13:50, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2012-03-17 12:11 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
An initramfs which does this is created by
=sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.25.1 or
=sys-kernel/dracut-017-r1. If you do not want to use these tools, be
sure any initramfs you create
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
This item just appeared after eix-sync:
HTPC ~ # eselect news read
2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking
Title udev-181 unmasking
Author William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
This item just appeared after eix-sync:
HTPC ~ # eselect news read
2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking
Title
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
1) Unmasking udev-181 doesn't mean it becomes stable, so I am assuming
(for now) that since I run stable Gentoo this won't directly effect
you know, with that 'put everything into /usr' crap going on, I don't see any
reason to have a seperate /usr at all. /root is completely empty. So what? Put
everything on one partition and go on.
I will not use an initramfs if I can get away with it.
--
#163933
On 2012-03-17 19:38, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
you know, with that 'put everything into /usr' crap going on, I don't see any
reason to have a seperate /usr at all. /root is completely empty. So what?
Put
everything on one partition and go on.
Yes, let's do away with partitions
Am Samstag, 17. März 2012, 20:40:02 schrieb pk:
On 2012-03-17 19:38, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
you know, with that 'put everything into /usr' crap going on, I don't see
any reason to have a seperate /usr at all. /root is completely empty. So
what? Put everything on one partition and go
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:10:35 -0700
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
4) I don't use a separate /usr so I don't need any of this. I suspect
most casual Gentoo users like me are pretty much the same.
This news item in no way applies to you and you are completely
unaffected. You can safely
On 2012-03-17 21:09, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
seriously, you have seemed to miss some news. There is a move by redhatco to
move almost everything from / to /usr. With nothing left than some
mountpoints
- why put / on its own partition? There is nothing to contain apart from
/etc.
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:10:35 -0700
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
4) I don't use a separate /usr so I don't need any of this. I suspect
most casual Gentoo users like me are pretty much the same.
This news
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 17:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:10:35 -0700
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
4) I don't use a separate /usr so I don't need any of this. I suspect
most
On March 17, 2012 at 8:43 PM Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
initramfs side of things. I did have to use one to bring up my server
with / on a RAID6, not because I needed it long term but in the short
term I couldn't determine how mdadm was numbering the RAID so that I
could
This item just appeared after eix-sync:
HTPC ~ # eselect news read
2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking
Title udev-181 unmasking
AuthorWilliam Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org
Posted2012-03-16
Revision 1
udev-181 is being
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
This item just appeared after eix-sync:
HTPC ~ # eselect news read
2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking
Title udev-181 unmasking
Author William Hubbs
--
On March 17, 2012 at 12:19 AM Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken
Happy Computer Users (for now), systemd is on your horizon.
Houston, we have a problem!
You can always try Walter's et. al. mdev
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
--
On March 17, 2012 at 12:19 AM Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken
Happy Computer Users (for now), systemd is on
On Mar 17, 2012 11:15 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr. da...@happypenguincomputers.com
wrote:
This item just appeared after eix-sync:
HTPC ~ # eselect news read
2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking
Title udev-181 unmasking
AuthorWilliam Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org
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