Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:56:08 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Do you know of a source for the unsupported hence deleted profiles? http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/deprecated?hideattic=0rev=1.4view=log -- Neil Bothwick Those who can, do. Those

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:56:08 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Do you know of a source for the unsupported hence deleted profiles?

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:40:30 +0100, Neil Walker wrote: The portage tree is not required to even be present. Nothing will stop working without it (other than portage itself - and emerge --sync will fix that). The OP made it sound like running emerge --sync had trashed his system by removing

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-27 Thread Neil Walker
Neil Bothwick wrote: I suggest you read the subject header and the original post. It is quite clear what Mark was talking about, and these files are removed by emerge --sync. I have done that - in fact, I have been following the entire thread. However, it cannot be assumed that everyone

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-27 Thread b.n.
Neil Walker ha scritto: Neil Bothwick wrote: I suggest you read the subject header and the original post. It is quite clear what Mark was talking about, and these files are removed by emerge --sync. I have done that - in fact, I have been following the entire thread. However, it cannot be

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: I suggest you read the subject header and the original post. It is quite clear what Mark was talking about, and these files are removed by emerge --sync. I have done that - in fact, I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 26 April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: I don't buy that it's my issue created by a long time between updates. I could turn on any machine that's sitting in a junk heap or back room somewhere. It hasn't been

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-27 Thread Henry Gebhardt
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 26 April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: (...) default so it's really slow). I'm thinking of these things: - Install every currently

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:30:07 +0200, Henry Gebhardt wrote: It hasn't been mentioned yet, but ebuilds of all installed packages can be found in /var/db/pkg/category/pkg-ver/pkg-ver.ebuild. emerge --sync can mess around with /usr/portage all it wants, your ebuilds will still be there until you

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:30:07 +0200, Henry Gebhardt wrote: It hasn't been mentioned yet, but ebuilds of all installed packages can be found in /var/db/pkg/category/pkg-ver/pkg-ver.ebuild. emerge --sync can mess

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:17:38 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: There is no way that I know of to know before running emerge --sync what has been removed from the servers and hence would be removed from my machine. Why do Gentoo devs think they should remove anything from my machine. It's my machine,

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:17:38 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: There is no way that I know of to know before running emerge --sync what has been removed from the servers and hence would be removed from my machine. Why do

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:22:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Where I get frustrated/ticked off/mad is when some independent developer, or group of developers, simply decides to remove code on **MY** machine and force me

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Neil Walker
Mark Knecht wrote: I log in and want to figure out what's in front of me with respect to updates. I type emerge sync and portage deletes files. to me that's just wrong. What the heck are you talking about? emerge --sync doesn't delete ANY files from your system. Be lucky, Neil --

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I log in and want to figure out what's in front of me with respect to updates. I type emerge sync and portage deletes files. to me that's just wrong. What the heck are you talking about? emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 26 April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: I don't buy that it's my issue created by a long time between updates. I could turn on any machine that's sitting in a junk heap or back room somewhere. It hasn't been powered up in a long time. I log in and want to figure out what's in front of

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 26 April 2008, Neil Walker wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I log in and want to figure out what's in front of me with respect to updates. I type emerge sync and portage deletes files. to me that's just wrong. What the heck are you talking about? emerge --sync doesn't delete ANY

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Stroller
On 26 Apr 2008, at 19:57, Mark Knecht wrote: ... I don't buy that it's my issue created by a long time between updates. I could turn on any machine that's sitting in a junk heap or back room somewhere. It hasn't been powered up in a long time. I log in and want to figure out what's in front of

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Mark Knecht: I don't buy that it's my issue created by a long time between updates. I could turn on any machine that's sitting in a junk heap or back room somewhere. It hasn't been powered up in a long time. I log in and want to figure out what's in front of me with respect to

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:56:42 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: This whole thread, from my original subject line on, has been saying that emerge --sync removes profiles. Does it or not? It does, because emerge --sync synchronises your portage tree with the current one on the servers. But nothing really

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:00:30 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: One could write a dual-portage thingy that replicates what you have then does emerge --sync, and also has an --undo fetaure for just in case. Wouldn't rsync's --backup and --backup-dir options be sufficient for the rare cases when tree

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi Alan, Thanks for the reply. Also, up front, I'm thinking that my tone is somehow being misinterpreted. I'm not at all high energy about this. I'm worried now it's not coming across the way I'm feeling about this. Low key. Low stress. Just looking to make things better in the future.

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Apr 2008, at 19:57, Mark Knecht wrote: ... I don't buy that it's my issue created by a long time between updates. I could turn on any machine that's sitting in a junk heap or back room somewhere. It hasn't been

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 26 April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: I don't buy that it's my issue created by a long time between updates. I could turn on any machine that's sitting in a junk heap or back room somewhere. It hasn't been

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-26 Thread Neil Walker
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 26 April 2008, Neil Walker wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I log in and want to figure out what's in front of me with respect to updates. I type emerge sync and portage deletes files. to me that's just wrong. What the heck are you talking about?

[gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-25 Thread Mark Knecht
I was at my folks house earlier this week. My mom's machine was set up quite a long time ago and hadn't been updated in at least a year - maybe two. I wasn't even aware she was using Linux. I simply set up a machine, gave her an account and walked away. she told me a few days ago she was using it

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 25 April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: Did this machine just get messed up over time and I didn't notice or did emerge --sync remove the profile from the system thus breaking everything? Profiles are stored in $PORTAGE_DIR/profiles, so they do get removed during a sync if they are no

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-25 Thread Joseph
# eselect profile list follow this guide to update profile: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml#doc_chap3 and: # emerge -uDNav world that should work. -- #Joseph GPG KeyID: ED0E1FB7 On 04/25/08 10:39, Mark Knecht wrote: [snip I ran emerge --sync which ran correctly as far as I

Re: [gentoo-user] Would emerge --sync remove old profiles?

2008-04-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 25 April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: Did this machine just get messed up over time and I didn't notice or did emerge --sync remove the profile from the system thus breaking everything? Profiles are stored