Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stroller
On 14 Oct 2009, at 21:34, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 14 October 2009 22:21:38 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I remember standing in front of two Sun servers with 4gb each a couple of years ago. I was stuck in awe. So much ram. I have 3 of those monsters in my decommissioned stores tha

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 22:48:56 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:34:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Bring a 1 ton truck. Those beasts are big and heavy. Very heavy. It > > takes four of our big lads to pick them up. > > Why not put one behind that SUV the next time he parks i

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 22:40:58 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Alan McKinnon schrieb: > > Bring a 1 ton truck. Those beasts are big and heavy. Very heavy. It takes > > four of our big lads to pick them up. > > It was a mixture of fascination and disappointment seeing those 2 "big" > servers a

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:34:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Bring a 1 ton truck. Those beasts are big and heavy. Very heavy. It > takes four of our big lads to pick them up. Why not put one behind that SUV the next time he parks in the disabled bay? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Diarrhoea is hereditary

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: >> What for? Just to get back to the initial topic of the thread ;-) > > /var/tmp/portage > /tmp > > oh: > free > total used free sharedbuffers cached > Mem: 81858368108312 77524 0 06067212 >

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Alan McKinnon schrieb: > Bring a 1 ton truck. Those beasts are big and heavy. Very heavy. It takes > four > of our big lads to pick them up. It was a mixture of fascination and disappointment seeing those 2 "big" servers and the (entry-level ... ok)-SAN with just 4U in sum ... times are a-chan

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 14 Oktober 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 14 October 2009 22:21:38 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > I remember standing in front of two Sun servers with 4gb each a couple of > > years ago. > > I was stuck in awe. So much ram. > > I have 3 of those monsters in my decommissione

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 14 Oktober 2009, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: > > I remember standing in front of two Sun servers with 4gb each a couple of > > years ago. > > I was stuck in awe. So much ram. > > Yes. I remember as well. > > "Why 128 MB RAM in that workstation? Are you

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 22:21:38 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > I remember standing in front of two Sun servers with 4gb each a couple of > years ago. > I was stuck in awe. So much ram. I have 3 of those monsters in my decommissioned stores that you are more than welcome to come and fetch t

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Alan McKinnon schrieb: > On Wednesday 14 October 2009 18:55:34 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> At least there I know how to make use of it ... > > At least this OT thread isn't as insanely OT as the checksum one :-) uuuh, I am OT ?? ;-) Haven't checked the checksum-thread, does it use RAM ?? ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: > I remember standing in front of two Sun servers with 4gb each a couple of > years ago. > I was stuck in awe. So much ram. Yes. I remember as well. "Why 128 MB RAM in that workstation? Are you sure we need that much? It costs!" > Today my desktop has 8gb - and I

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 14 Oktober 2009, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Dale schrieb: > > Does a Vic 20 count? It had 4K of ram. I bet KDE 4 would run fast on > > that. LOL > > > > At least it wasn't running winders. > > I remember upgrading my 8088 from 128 kB to 640 kB, it was about 50 EUR > (back then th

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 18:55:34 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Dale schrieb: > > Does a Vic 20 count? It had 4K of ram. I bet KDE 4 would run fast on > > that. LOL > > > > At least it wasn't running winders. > > I remember upgrading my 8088 from 128 kB to 640 kB, it was about 50 EUR > (bac

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Dale schrieb: > Does a Vic 20 count? It had 4K of ram. I bet KDE 4 would run fast on > that. LOL > > At least it wasn't running winders. I remember upgrading my 8088 from 128 kB to 640 kB, it was about 50 EUR (back then there was no EUR, sure) .. I feel kinda old thinking of this ;-) And t

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
KH wrote: > pk schrieb: >> Dale wrote: >> >>> I think mine has a 3Gb limit too. I have two installed tho. It works >>> well for me. >> >> I think someone (in?)famous said: "640K is more memory than anyone will >> ever need..." ;-) >> >> Best regards >> >> Peter K >> > > Hi, > > my first Mac had 2

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread KH
pk schrieb: Dale wrote: I think mine has a 3Gb limit too. I have two installed tho. It works well for me. I think someone (in?)famous said: "640K is more memory than anyone will ever need..." ;-) Best regards Peter K Hi, my first Mac had 256kb. I upgraded it to 1mb because kit had one

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 13:31:09 pk wrote: > Dale wrote: > > I think mine has a 3Gb limit too. I have two installed tho. It works > > well for me. > > I think someone (in?)famous said: "640K is more memory than anyone will > ever need..." ;-) Well, it wasn't Bill Gates (just in case that'

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread pk
Dale wrote: > I think mine has a 3Gb limit too. I have two installed tho. It works > well for me. I think someone (in?)famous said: "640K is more memory than anyone will ever need..." ;-) Best regards Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
KH wrote: > Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: > [snip] >> >> As I see I am not even able to use much RAM with several (vmware-)VMs >> running, so the 8 gigs will maybe stay some number to impress *some* >> people with (until everyone gets 8 gigs into their supermarket-PCs). >> >> Anyway. >> Stefan >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
KH schrieb: > Hi, > > my motherboard cannot go above 3gigs so I am very impressed ;-) Wow, at last one ;-) S

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread KH
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: [snip] As I see I am not even able to use much RAM with several (vmware-)VMs running, so the 8 gigs will maybe stay some number to impress *some* people with (until everyone gets 8 gigs into their supermarket-PCs). Anyway. Stefan Hi, my motherboard cannot go ab

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Joshua Murphy schrieb: > Yep! sys-apps/preload goes a long way to automate what I did with > busybox's readahead tool, and I'm about 99% certain they both make the > same system call to do the work anyways... it's all a matter of how & > where they get their list of *what* to fetch... I, as I said

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-13 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Joshua Murphy schrieb: > >> Non-ricer? Well... this sorta breaks that category. > > ;-) > >> There's a rather handy tool[1] already in the stage3, I've used it >> alongside bootchart to force-load everything needed into ram during >> b

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Joshua Murphy schrieb: > Non-ricer? Well... this sorta breaks that category. ;-) > There's a rather handy tool[1] already in the stage3, I've used it > alongside bootchart to force-load everything needed into ram during > boot, before it's needed, so execution gets held up by i/o just a > little

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-13 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Greets, gentoo-users, > > as I ordered myself an upgrade from 4 to 8 gigs of RAM for my main > workstation, just because it's rather cheap now and I have good use for > the "old" 4 gigs I wonder what to do with those shiny new additi

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Alan McKinnon schrieb: >> you could regularly measure your disk speed by coping huge amounts of >> data to a second ram-disk, and back. Then you have a good knowledge of >> read and write speed of your hdd :-) Ah, yes, that's a serious thing to do ;-) >> I often use the ram disk for creating i

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-12 Thread KH
Dale schrieb: KH wrote: Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: Greets, gentoo-users, as I ordered myself an upgrade from 4 to 8 gigs of RAM for my main workstation, just because it's rather cheap now and I have good use for the "old" 4 gigs I wonder what to do with those shiny new additional 4 gigs. O

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-12 Thread Dale
KH wrote: > Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: >> Greets, gentoo-users, >> >> as I ordered myself an upgrade from 4 to 8 gigs of RAM for my main >> workstation, just because it's rather cheap now and I have good use for >> the "old" 4 gigs I wonder what to do with those shiny new additional >> 4 gigs. >

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 00:09:23 KH wrote: > > I will give my virtual machines more RAM to improve their performance, > > yes, this is maybe the main reason for me to upgrade RAM. > > > > But are there any other things I might forget? > > > > Are there any creative non-ricer ways to really mak

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-12 Thread KH
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: Greets, gentoo-users, as I ordered myself an upgrade from 4 to 8 gigs of RAM for my main workstation, just because it's rather cheap now and I have good use for the "old" 4 gigs I wonder what to do with those shiny new additional 4 gigs. OK, linux uses it for IO-ca

[gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-12 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Greets, gentoo-users, as I ordered myself an upgrade from 4 to 8 gigs of RAM for my main workstation, just because it's rather cheap now and I have good use for the "old" 4 gigs I wonder what to do with those shiny new additional 4 gigs. OK, linux uses it for IO-caching, yep ... I have some ram