Re: [gentoo-user] regarding PAM [WAS: root password gremlin]

2005-11-20 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Skwar wrote: It's standard already, I guess. No, it isn't. Why do you think so? - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica / Dominio Digital TV - Da FOSS man! KTP Consultores - info AT

Re: [gentoo-user] regarding PAM [WAS: root password gremlin]

2005-11-20 Thread Alexander Skwar
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Skwar wrote: It's standard already, I guess. No, it isn't. Why do you think so? Standard is something, for which you don't need additional software. For PAM, you need additional software, as PAM is

Re: [gentoo-user] regarding PAM [WAS: root password gremlin]

2005-11-20 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Skwar wrote: Standard is something, for which you don't need additional software. For PAM, you need additional software, as PAM is already additional software. ? - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad

Re: [gentoo-user] regarding PAM [WAS: root password gremlin]

2005-11-20 Thread Alexander Skwar
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Skwar wrote: Standard is something, for which you don't need additional software. For PAM, you need additional software, as PAM is already additional software. ? Optional things aren't standard.

Re: [gentoo-user] regarding PAM [WAS: root password gremlin]

2005-11-20 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Skwar wrote: Optional things aren't standard. They are optional. PAM is optional. You don't need it - at least not for basic setups. It is NOW optional. I'm sure this will change, that's why I recommend to try it now that there is time

Re: [gentoo-user] regarding PAM [WAS: root password gremlin]

2005-11-20 Thread Alexander Skwar
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Skwar wrote: Optional things aren't standard. They are optional. PAM is optional. You don't need it - at least not for basic setups. It is NOW optional. I'm sure this will change, Well, I'm sure

Re: [gentoo-user] regarding PAM [WAS: root password gremlin]

2005-11-20 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Skwar wrote: Also on normally sized systems, there just is no requirement for it - as long as the requirements are simple enough (eg. LDAP? Go PAM! Database? Go PAM!). But on consumer systems, and that's what we're talking about!, you

Re: [gentoo-user] regarding PAM [WAS: root password gremlin]

2005-11-20 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Sunday 20 November 2005 14:49, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: Optional things aren't standard. They are optional. PAM is optional. You don't need it - at least not for basic setups. It is NOW optional. I'm sure this will change, that's why I recommend to try

Re: [gentoo-user] regarding PAM [WAS: root password gremlin]

2005-11-20 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 20 November 2005 15:24, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 20 November 2005 14:49, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: Optional things aren't standard. They are optional. PAM is optional. You don't need it - at least not for basic setups. It is NOW