Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Philip Webb
090414 Roy Wright wrote: > the change over to dolphin is disappointing. > So far I've been able to mostly ignore it and use konqueror > with one major exception, fish and sftp no longer work in konqueror. > Only sftp works in dolphin. In the past (3.x), > I always found fish bulletproof, while sft

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 08:56:51 Roy Wright wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman > >> > >> wrote: > >>> The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. > > Glad I'm not the only one who

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 08:56:51 Roy Wright wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: > > >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman > > >> > > >> wrote: > > >>> The only app I am really dis

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But > > > konqueror is showing it's age, and as a browser it's now almost > > > useless. It's JavaScript is horribly

[gentoo-user] dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread Jacques Montier
Hi all, As udept seems no longer maintened (hard masked), do you know a good dependencies (and reverse) command line package tool ? Thank a lot, cheers, -- Jacques

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Rusty on MySQL specifics

2009-04-14 Thread Mick
On Monday 13 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 13 April 2009 23:42:08 kashani wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Not at all. What you are seeing when pressing the up arrow is not > > > commands stored by MySQl, but commands stored by your shell. It's > > > complex to explain, so bear

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 11:06:03 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > > I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But > > > > konqueror is showing it's age, and a

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

2009-04-14 Thread Alex Schuster
Mick writes: > On Monday 13 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: > > I need your help, because I just cannot get X to run on my new PC with > > ATI Radeon HD 3200 on-board graphics. What now? [...] > > I'm out of ideas now. Do you have any advice? A friend also has trouble > > with her Radeon X1550 c

Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/4/14 Jacques Montier : > As udept seems no longer maintened (hard masked), do you know a good > dependencies (and reverse) command line package tool  ? emerge --depclean --pretend --verbose [atom] [1] [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/faq.xml -- Regards, Daniel

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But > > konqueror is showing it's age, and as a browser it's now almost useless. > > It's JavaScript is horribly broken and using flash is just too painful to > > conte

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Where to put own keyboard variants

2009-04-14 Thread Sebastian Dörner
walt wrote: > Are you saying you edited that file by hand? If so, why not just > rename it sebastian-us and leave it where it is. That way it nill > be safe from future updates. > Yes I edited the file by hand. Thanks for tip, that will certainly work. I was only used to editing files in /etc o

Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread Jacques Montier
Daniel Pielmeier a gentiment tapote: > 2009/4/14 Jacques Montier : > > >> As udept seems no longer maintened (hard masked), do you know a good >> dependencies (and reverse) command line package tool ? >> > > emerge --depclean --pretend --verbose [atom] [1] > > [1] http://www.gentoo.org/pro

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Stroller
On 13 Apr 2009, at 23:17, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Something about KDE-4 and Qt4 grabbed my attention - maybe it's just the scope and possibilities of it all, and the sheer size of brass balls it takes to be the first to go that route with a mainstream product. I admire guts and vision lik

Re: [gentoo-user] gecko-mediaplayer inconsistent dependencies

2009-04-14 Thread Stroller
On 13 Apr 2009, at 21:31, Grant wrote: The gecko-mediaplayer ebuild RDEPEND is as follows: RDEPEND="dev-libs/dbus-glib =media-video/gnome-mplayer-0.6.2 || ( =net-libs/xulrunner-1.8* =www-client/mozilla-firefox-2* =www-client/seamonkey-1* www-client/epiphany )" I'm no

[gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Thanasis
Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: gentoo-sources-2.6.28* with the ~x86 keyword. What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ?

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Justin
Thanasis schrieb: > Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: > gentoo-sources-2.6.28* > with the ~x86 keyword. > What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ? > > =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.28* ~x86 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Saphirus Sage
Justin wrote: > Thanasis schrieb: > >> Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: >> gentoo-sources-2.6.28* >> with the ~x86 keyword. >> What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ? >> >> >> > > =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.28* ~x86 > > I am certain that is thorough

[gentoo-user] Re: dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jacques Montier wrote: > Daniel Pielmeier a gentiment tapote: >> 2009/4/14 Jacques Montier : >> >> >>> As udept seems no longer maintened (hard masked), do you know a good >>> dependencies (and reverse) command line package tool ? >>> >> emerg

Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread Justin
Jacques Montier schrieb: > Hi all, > > As udept seems no longer maintened (hard masked), do you know a good > dependencies (and reverse) command line package tool ? > > Thank a lot, > > cheers, > > -- > Jacques > http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/misc/rindex/ signature.asc Description: Open

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Thanasis
on 04/14/2009 04:04 PM Justin wrote the following: > Thanasis schrieb: > >> Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: >> gentoo-sources-2.6.28* >> with the ~x86 keyword. >> What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ? >> >> >> > > =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.28* ~x86

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Thanasis
on 04/14/2009 04:08 PM Saphirus Sage wrote the following: > Justin wrote: > >> Thanasis schrieb: >> >> >>> Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: >>> gentoo-sources-2.6.28* >>> with the ~x86 keyword. >>> What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ? >>> >> =

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 17:14 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Michael Sullivan > wrote: > > > (II) LoadModule: "i810" > > > > (WW) Warning, couldn't open module i810 > > (II) UnloadModule: "i810" > > (EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module does not exist, 0) > > (EE)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread gibboris
Hello, about the *mandatory* it was a bad expression, I should have said : 'make two new daemons mandatory IF you want to follow the modern-move' :) Of course the 'hal' useflag is such a gentoo nice thing ! I did the xorg+hal switch, but I forgot that hald make use of dbus (I would dreamed about

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 14:50:37 Stroller wrote: > I find Exposé immensely useful on my Mac and I love the "genie" effect > when maximising & minimising windows; I can imagine a cool animation > when using virtual desktops on Linux. But clearly you're talking about > something more than that

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 07:43 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:14:06 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > (II) LoadModule: "i810" > > > > > > (WW) Warning, couldn't open module i810 > > > (II) UnloadModule: "i810" > > > (EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module does not exist, 0) >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > There's a few keywords to start a search with - nepomuk, sematic desktop Maybe I just don't "get it" but all of the descriptions of this stuff flies way over my head. Admittedly, as soon as I see the word "social" being applied to my persona

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > There's a few keywords to start a search with - nepomuk, sematic desktop > > Maybe I just don't "get it" but all of the descriptions of this stuff > flies way over my head. Admittedly, as so

[gentoo-user] WEP wicd error

2009-04-14 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi all, every time I try to start my wireless with wicd, I have to set the WEP encripton key by hand (su - ; iwconfig ) then wicd is able to connect to the AP. I have checked all network params, but I see no error in conf... Use encyptrion WEP (Passphrase) and the password. I only see this

[gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi all, I removed my net.eth0 service from default/boot level: amparo ~ # rc-update show|grep eth0 amparo ~ # but now, udev-postmount tries to start it. I don't want it cause I don't plug any wire to my laptop, and udev hang my start for a minute... how may I disable udev from starting net.eth

Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread Jacques Montier
Arnau Bria a gentiment tapote: > Hi all, > > I removed my net.eth0 service from default/boot level: > > amparo ~ # rc-update show|grep eth0 > amparo ~ # > > but now, udev-postmount tries to start it. > I don't want it cause I don't plug any wire to my laptop, and udev hang > my start for a minute.

Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread YoYo siska
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 05:27:53PM +0200, Arnau Bria wrote: > Hi all, > > I removed my net.eth0 service from default/boot level: > > amparo ~ # rc-update show|grep eth0 > amparo ~ # > > but now, udev-postmount tries to start it. > I don't want it cause I don't plug any wire to my laptop, and ud

[gentoo-user] amarok2 and mysql

2009-04-14 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Hi! amarok 2.x insists on mysql 5.x [embedded,-minimal]. OTOH, I strongly need to have (not embedded) mysql 4.1.x to be working, and, as a result, use these lines in package.mask: >=virtual/mysql-5.0 >=dev-db/mysql-5.0 Is there a workaround to resolve the issue?

Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread Arnau Bria
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:36:40 +0200 Jacques Montier wrote: > In /etc/conf.d/rc, you can add the line : > > RC_PLUG_SERVICES="!net.eth0" that worked! many thanks. > -- > Jacques Arnau

Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread Arnau Bria
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:41:30 +0200 YoYo siska wrote: > look at the rc_hotplug option in /etc/rc.conf > something like rc_hotplug="!net.eth0" should work for you... thanks, Jacques already pointed that. > the other option is, if you emerge ifplugd, the net.eth0 service will > use ifplugd to see

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 07:43 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:14:06 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> > > (II) LoadModule: "i810" >> > > >> > > (WW) Warning, couldn't open module i810 >> > > (II) UnloadModule: "i810" >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] WEP wicd error

2009-04-14 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Arnau Bria wrote: > Hi all, > > every time I try to start my wireless with wicd, I have to set the > WEP encripton key by hand (su - ; iwconfig ) then wicd is able to > connect to the AP. > > I have checked all network params, but I see no error in conf... > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread Jacques Montier
ABCD a gentiment tapote: > > The difference is that nothing actually depends on xfce-base/xfce4 - the > packages that were listed depend on packages that have names that *start > with* "xfce-base/xfce4" (such as "xfce-base/xfce4-panel"). The > --depclean output says that you have no packages curre

[gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : goodbye & good riddance

2009-04-14 Thread Philip Webb
I unmerged all the kde-base/...-4.2.1 pkgs preparatory to remerging them with USE="kdeprefix" & it hit me: why am I wasting time on this rubbish ? KDE 4.2.1 is not -- as someone bluntly pointed out -- a successor to 3.5 : it's a whole new concept, not yet clear even in the minds of its developers.

[gentoo-user] cpu TIME question in ps command

2009-04-14 Thread Zhengquan Zhang
Dear gentoo community: I have got a old gentoo server Linux *** 2.4.28-gentoo-r6 #1 Fri Feb 18 08:08:30 CST 2005 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz GNU/Linux I am confused by a ps command problem. I used 'ps -F -u root --sort bsdtime' to sort root processes by cumulative cpu time and got th

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : goodbye & good riddance

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > I unmerged all the kde-base/...-4.2.1 pkgs preparatory to remerging them > with USE="kdeprefix" & it hit me: why am I wasting time on this rubbish ? > > KDE 4.2.1 is not -- as someone bluntly pointed out -- a successor to 3.5 : > it's a whole n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> > There's a few keywords to start a search with - nepomuk, sematic desktop >> >> Maybe I just don't "get it" but all of the

[gentoo-user] Kolourpaint (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2) crashes

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Becker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in a crash again. The Kde Crash Manager says: Ein schwerer Fehler ist aufgetreten The application Kolour

[gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Becker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in a crash again. The Kde Crash Manager says: Ein schwerer Fehler ist aufgetreten The application Kolour

Re: [gentoo-user] amarok2 and mysql

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 17:42:02 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: > Hi! > > amarok 2.x insists on mysql 5.x [embedded,-minimal]. OTOH, I strongly need > to have (not embedded) mysql 4.1.x to be working, and, as a result, use > these > > lines in package.mask: > >=virtual/mysql-5.0 > >=dev-db/mysql-5.0 > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 19:49:17 Jochen Becker wrote: > kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User > Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in > a crash again. I'm having a sort-of similar problem wwith kontact and kmail after a kernel p

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 14. April 2009 19:49:17 schrieb Jochen Becker: > kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. You don't want to keep sending this every 30 mins now, do you? Bye... Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Dale
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Dienstag, 14. April 2009 19:49:17 schrieb Jochen Becker: > > >> kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. >> > > You don't want to keep sending this every 30 mins now, do you? > > Bye... > > Dirk > > > He most likely thought it didn't make it to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 19:09:38 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Alan McKinnon > > > > wrote: > >> > There's a few keywords to start a search with - ne

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : goodbye & good riddance

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Philip Webb said: > I cb content with Fluxbox, if KDE 3.5 disappears one day, /me hugs fluxbox Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : goodbye & good riddance

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Mark Knecht said: > While not a KDE user I echo your thoughts. I'm personally a bit > worried about Gentoo overlords sort of pushing this hald thing with > reasons like 'Gnome's automounting depends on it'. If I wanted > automounting that's OK, but what if I don't? Eventually someone w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 19:09:38 Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> >> wrote: >> > On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Alan McKinnon >> > >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 13/04/09 Mike Edenfield said: > Having said that, hal is exactly the kind of thing I would expect Gentoo > users to flock to: its powerful, flexible, extensible, configurable, and > it's the new cutting-edge stuff from the upstream vendors. Before it went > offline, the Gentoo wiki was easi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 21:41:49 Paul Hartman wrote: > Okay, that makes sense and if it were able to gather all of that > metadata without me having to enter it maybe it could even be > useful... as long as it never queries the internet for that metadata. My post got too long and I subconsciously

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:01:23 +0300, Thanasis wrote: > Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: > gentoo-sources-2.6.28* > with the ~x86 keyword. > What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ? ~sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.28 ~x86 or, if you are running x86, ~sys-kernel/ge

[gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hi, I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. msoul...@anton:~$ ps -ef | grep dbus | grep -v grep msoulier 9221 1 0 Apr12 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --print-address 6 --session msoulier 92

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put > -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. unmerge and see which programs fail :)

Re: [gentoo-user] amarok2 and mysql

2009-04-14 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 21:53:14 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 17:42:02 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: > > Hi! > > > > amarok 2.x insists on mysql 5.x [embedded,-minimal]. OTOH, I strongly > > need to have (not embedded) mysql 4.1.x to be working, and, as a result, > > use these > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Paul Hartman said: > unmerge and see which programs fail :) That scares me. :) Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein pgpcl

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 14/04/09 Paul Hartman said: > >> unmerge and see which programs fail :) > > That scares me. :) Do you use KDE? I think dbus is required.

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Jean-Baptiste Mestelan
2009/4/14 Michael P. Soulier : > I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put > -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. Does `pstree` help ? Cheers.

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Joshua D Doll
Michael P. Soulier wrote: Hi, I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. msoul...@anton:~$ ps -ef | grep dbus | grep -v grep msoulier 9221 1 0 Apr12 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --print-addre

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Joachim Bartosik
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 22:42, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Michael P. Soulier > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put >> -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. Hmmm maybe ps -fax ? -- Joachim

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Joachim Bartosik
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 22:54, Joachim Bartosik wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 22:42, Paul Hartman > wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Michael P. Soulier >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put >>> -dbus -hal in my /etc/ma

Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:27:53 +0200, Arnau Bria wrote: > I remember in the past I had something that checked is the wire was > pluged, and if so, it started my network... anyone could help me to > remember that program? Install ifplugd, but don't try to run it. The baselayout scripts will autom

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread jochen becker
Yes I can verify that colourpaint is truly dying without leaving any process. Nor Top neither ps shows anything which points to kolourpaint or parts of it. 2009/4/14 Alan McKinnon > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 19:49:17 Jochen Becker wrote: > > kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : goodbye & good riddance

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 14/04/09 Mark Knecht said: > >> While not a KDE user I echo your thoughts. I'm personally a bit >> worried about Gentoo overlords sort of pushing this hald thing with >> reasons like 'Gnome's automounting depends on it'. If I wanted

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Dale
Michael P. Soulier wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put > -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. > > msoul...@anton:~$ ps -ef | grep dbus | grep -v grep > msoulier 9221 1 0 Apr12 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork > --print-pid 4

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:58:18 -0400 schrieb "Michael P. Soulier" : > On 13/04/09 Mike Edenfield said: > [...] > > Also, just for the record, hal isn't by any stretch of the imagination a > > "new" daemon. Its been a USE option for Gentoo's gnome-vfs package since > > Gnome 2.8, in 2004. > > Y

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread gibboris
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 03:58:18PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > Real men manage their own /etc/fstab. ;-) +1 (I just noticed that hal creates /media but didn't added it to my fstab, maybe for the 0.5.12 ? :)) > "HAL was responsible for opening almost 2000 files. It will read various XML > fi

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jochen Becker wrote: > kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User > Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in > a crash again. I have never run that program. I just tried it in an NX session and not only

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:30:19 +0200, gibbo...@gmail.com wrote: > > Real men manage their own /etc/fstab. ;-) > +1 Hal is about a lot more than mounting memory sticks. > (I just noticed that hal creates /media but didn't added it to my fstab, > maybe for the 0.5.12 ? :)) Hal doesn't create the

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Becker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Hartman schrieb: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jochen Becker > wrote: >> kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User >> Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in >> a crash again. >

[gentoo-user] [OT] the matrix on windows

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Ok, this is funny as hell... http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349 ...to me anyway... :) Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein pgp

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Joshua D Doll said: > Since it appears you have equery installed you can do: > > equery depends sys-apps/dbus-glib > > That should list all the packages requiring dbus. msoul...@anton:~$ equery depends sys-apps/dbus-glib [ Searching for packages depending on sys-apps/dbus-glib... ] !!

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Paul Hartman said: > Do you use KDE? I think dbus is required. Nope. -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein pgpmYUKGE5Ajz.pgp De

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Joachim Bartosik said: > Or if you don't like it > > ps ax -o ppid,cmd|grep hal > > should give you pid of hals parent process. It's daemonized. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

2009-04-14 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 14 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: > I already have the hal USE flag set. I added evdev to INPUT_DEVICES, and > tried again with and without existing xorg.conf. No real change - X starts, > but the mouse does not move, and nothing else happens. I assume you re-emerged xorg after you c

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 23:50:22 Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 14/04/09 Joshua D Doll said: > > Since it appears you have equery installed you can do: > > > > equery depends sys-apps/dbus-glib > > > > That should list all the packages requiring dbus. > > msoul...@anton:~$ equery depends sys-apps/

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Jochen Becker wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Paul Hartman schrieb: >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jochen Becker >> wrote: >>> kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User >>> Profile Kolourpaint will r

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: > >> I already have the hal USE flag set. I added evdev to INPUT_DEVICES, and >> tried again with and without existing xorg.conf. No real change - X starts, >> but the mouse does not move, and nothing els

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jochen Becker wrote: > kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User > Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in > a crash again. Is this bug about the same thing? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18385

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Becker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Hartman schrieb: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jochen Becker > wrote: >> kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User >> Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in >> a crash again. >

[gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
I'm having a terrible time figuring this out. xorg-server-1.5 has totally broken my wife's machine in terms of the one thing she wants for fun which is MythTV. I need to take the machine back to the previous version of xorg-server but so far I Cannot figure out what to remove with emerge -C and wha

[gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael P. Soulier wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put > -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. > > msoul...@anton:~$ ps -ef | grep dbus | grep -v grep > msoulier 9221 1 0 Apr12 ?00:0

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:14 PM, ABCD wrote: > > What is the output of `/etc/init.d/dbus needsme` and `/etc/init.d/dbus > usesme`, and are any of the listed services started? > > - -- > ABCD Didn't know about those two commands. Interesting. Thanks! dragonfly ~ # /etc/init.d/dbus needsme consol

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 08:59 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > Micheal, >OK, now your machine and my wife's machine are probably in about > the exact same situation. Can you clarify exactly *when* mythfrontend > segfaults for you? On my wife's machine the GUI comes up fine, and I > can look at all the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: >> > The GUI doesn't even come up.  Everything just stops before the gui > launches.  So you think it might be the intel driver?  Do you think it's > safe to try a ~ version?  I've heard that using bad drivers/bad > xorg.conf can literally

Re: [gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > I'm having a terrible time figuring this out. xorg-server-1.5 has > totally broken my wife's machine in terms of the one thing she wants > for fun which is MythTV. I need to take the machine back to the > previous version of xorg-server but so far I Cannot figure out what to >

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 16:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Michael Sullivan > wrote: > > >> > > The GUI doesn't even come up. Everything just stops before the gui > > launches. So you think it might be the intel driver? Do you think it's > > safe to try a ~ versi

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 16:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Michael Sullivan > wrote: > > >> > > The GUI doesn't even come up. Everything just stops before the gui > > launches. So you think it might be the intel driver? Do you think it's > > safe to try a ~ versi

Re: [gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> I'm having a terrible time figuring this out. xorg-server-1.5 has >> totally broken my wife's machine in terms of the one thing she wants >> for fun which is MythTV. I need to take the machine back to the >> previous version of x

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: > [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5 > [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5 > mythfrontend[31548]: segfault at 6f732e4c ip 6f732e4c sp bfe0b09c error > 4 > [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5 > [drm:i915_

Re: [gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Dale wrote: > >> Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> I'm having a terrible time figuring this out. xorg-server-1.5 has >>> totally broken my wife's machine in terms of the one thing she wants >>> for fun which is MythTV. I need to take the machin

Re: [gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 19:02 -0500, Dale wrote: > I'm not better but I did the same thing on my rig. I hope this will help. > > # xorg-server masking # > >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r4 > =x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2 > =x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.1.3 > =x11-proto/p

Re: [gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 21:36 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 19:02 -0500, Dale wrote: > > I'm not better but I did the same thing on my rig. I hope this will help. > > > > # xorg-server masking # > > >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r4 > > =x11-drivers/xf86-in

Re: [gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Robert Bridge
Michael Sullivan wrote: I'm trying to roll back xorg-server, and I keep getting stuck: camille log # emerge -pvuD world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-base/xorg-server-1.5" have been masked. !!

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 & 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Jochen Becker > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Paul Hartman schrieb: >>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jochen Becker >>> wrote: kolourpaint allways crashes if I try

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 18:19 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > I'm not understanding why your system isn't finding the right video > driver. It appears hal wants you to run the i915 driver. Is the i915 > driver in memory? (lsmod|grep i915) > camille ~ # lsmod|grep i915 i915 26624 1 dr

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Thanasis
on 04/14/2009 11:09 PM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:01:23 +0300, Thanasis wrote: > > >> Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: >> gentoo-sources-2.6.28* >> with the ~x86 keyword. >> What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ? >> > > ~s

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Justin
Thanasis schrieb: > on 04/14/2009 11:09 PM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: >> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:01:23 +0300, Thanasis wrote: >> >> >>> Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: >>> gentoo-sources-2.6.28* >>> with the ~x86 keyword. >>> What should I write in /etc/portage/packag

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