Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?

2009-10-11 Thread Dale
Jonathan Callen wrote: Dale wrote: I would urge you to check into the q command and equery. I !think! the q command is part of portage. It may be part of gentoolkit tho. Just the q command has more than a dozen different things it does. equery can do a lot too but some say it has some

[gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild and how to clear the list

2009-10-11 Thread Dale
Hi, I recently did some upgrading which lead to some other packages having to be rebuilt. I have one that can't build and hasn't been able to for ages so I assume it isn't going to be fixed. It is hearts which is pulled in my kde-meta. This rebuild also forced me to upgrade kbackup which

Re: [gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild and how to clear the list

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 09:45:08 Dale wrote: Hi, I recently did some upgrading which lead to some other packages having to be rebuilt. I have one that can't build and hasn't been able to for ages so I assume it isn't going to be fixed. It is hearts which is pulled in my kde-meta. This

[gentoo-user] Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I am currently doing a python-updater run. While the rebuilding of the several packages the process failed with Downloading 'http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4.7.25/patch.4.7.25.4' --2009-10-11 10:57:48--

Re: [gentoo-user] Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I am currently doing a python-updater run. While the rebuilding of the several packages the process failed with Downloading 'http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4.7.25/patch.4.7.25.4' --2009-10-11 10:57:48--

[gentoo-user] slot conflict on consolkit -- how to resolve?

2009-10-11 Thread covici
I am trying to upgrade to the gnome overlay and I get the following slot conflict: !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: sys-auth/consolekit:0 ('installed', '/',

Re: [gentoo-user] Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I am currently doing a python-updater run. While the rebuilding of the several packages the process failed with Downloading 'http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4. 7.25/patch.4.7.25.4'

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE password dialogs stopped working

2009-10-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Mick schrieb: If in addition you use the --verbose and or --debug options you should see all that dbus has to tell you. Such options don't exist. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot lately to describe software. I always think is this a new thing or did they mean 'package'? I tried doing my

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot lately to describe software. I always think is this a

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Justin
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot lately to describe software. I always think is this a new thing or did they mean

Re: [gentoo-user] slot conflict on consolkit -- how to resolve?

2009-10-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 05:34 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I am trying to upgrade to the gnome overlay and I get the following slot conflict: !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. Oh wow I did not know that. See I knew it had to have some

[gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but not qt:4). What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of kde:4? I did start masking each package separately,

Re: [gentoo-user] slot conflict on consolkit -- how to resolve?

2009-10-11 Thread covici
Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 05:34 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I am trying to upgrade to the gnome overlay and I get the following slot conflict: !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into

Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:30:06 Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but not qt:4). What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. Oh

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Mick
On Sunday 11 October 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 17:50:37 Mick wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE password dialogs stopped working

2009-10-11 Thread Mick
On Sunday 11 October 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Mick schrieb: If in addition you use the --verbose and or --debug options you should see all that dbus has to tell you. Such options don't exist. Huh? They seem to exist here (although the script calls them flags):

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE password dialogs stopped working

2009-10-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag 10 Oktober 2009 09:41:52 schrieb Dirk Heinrichs: I suspect that it has something to do with recent QT update to 4.5.3, but I'm not sure. Downgraded QT to 4.5.2 and everything works fine again. Will file some bugs for this... Bye... Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009 13:30:06 schrieb Peter Humphrey: What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of kde:4? When using paludis, that would be =kde-base/*:4.3 or more general: =category/*:slot Don't know wether this works the same with portage, though.

Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but not qt:4). What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?

2009-10-11 Thread James Ausmus
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Jonathan Callen wrote: Dale wrote: I would urge you to check into the q command and equery. I !think! the q command is part of portage. It may be part of gentoolkit tho. Just the q command has more than a dozen

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 October 2009 15:55:47 Alan McKinnon wrote: Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is less ambiguous than the German equivalent. I would not have thought it could be done. English contains many ambiguities, but if you know the current idiom they

Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 October 2009 17:23:14 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: since everything kde depends on kdelibs you could mask that I tried that, but of course the problem is that I get a whole load of errors because things that want to be installed can't be. I need to know how to prevent those things

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?

2009-10-11 Thread Dale
James Ausmus wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Jonathan Callen wrote: Dale wrote: I would urge you to check into the q command and equery. I !think! the q command is part of portage. It may be

[gentoo-user] Gentoo installation problem.

2009-10-11 Thread Igor Spiridonov
Hi. I try to install DVD gentoo 10.0 and happens this: scanning for ata_piix and installation freeze. Motherboard Asus P4P800SE.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?

2009-10-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 09:25 -0700, James Ausmus wrote: When you forget which package a command (or any random file) belongs to, a great way to figure it out would be: equery belongs $(which q) Or use 'q' to find itself: $ q file `which q` app-portage/portage-utils (/usr/bin/q)

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH
Justin schrieb: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. Hi, This is OT: I am sure I don't have the best English and I do a lot of faults. But in Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:08:41 -0400, Denis denis@gmail.com wrote: nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can cause a lot of problems. Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still have the same issue. I think it's a scroll-bar that triggers it.

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH
Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list?

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH
KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Neil Walker
Mick wrote: Packet in English is almost always correctly used to denote a format of network transmitted data (in the context of a conversation about IT and computers) which is routable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_(information_technology) The word packet also has other meanings

[gentoo-user] Re: Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/11/2009 02:30 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but not qt:4). What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of kde:4?

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
091011 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Paket = packet ; Paket = package Oh dear ! -- English calls such words 'false friends' ! My German-English dictionary (Langenscheidt) suggests E 'package' = G 'Pack', while E 'packet' = G 'kleines Pack' or 'Päckchen'. In English, a 'packet' calls to mind

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
091011 Philip Webb wrote: E 'packet' = G 'kleines Pack' or 'Päckchen'. Sorry, typo : that sb 'kleines Paket' or 'kleine Pack'. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-11 Thread Chris Reffett
Couldn't you just grab the kde 4.3 package.keyword list and append that to package.mask, since it uses the same slot format? Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/11/2009 02:30 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable

[gentoo-user] Re: Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
From where? On 10/11/2009 10:58 PM, Chris Reffett wrote: Couldn't you just grab the kde 4.3 package.keyword list and append that to package.mask, since it uses the same slot format? Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/11/2009 02:30 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, In the last few days some

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation problem.

2009-10-11 Thread Justin
Igor Spiridonov wrote: Hi. I try to install DVD gentoo 10.0 and happens this: scanning for ata_piix and installation freeze. Motherboard Asus P4P800SE. Try 10.1, the are lots of bugs fixed. http://linuxcrazy.com/?q=node/77 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-11 Thread Chris Reffett
It could be manually downloaded from http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/package.keywords/kde-4.3.keywords;hb=master Nikos Chantziaras wrote: From where? On 10/11/2009 10:58 PM, Chris Reffett wrote: Couldn't you just grab the kde 4.3

Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:36:24 Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:08:41 -0400, Denis denis@gmail.com wrote: nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can cause a lot of problems. Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:02:07 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 15:55:47 Alan McKinnon wrote: Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is less ambiguous than the German equivalent. I would not have thought it could be done. English

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:29:19 Dale wrote: equery belongs $(which q) ;) -James Dale :-) :-) I knew how to do it but I thought it would return a lot of hits from anything containing the letter q. Later on when I had a little bit of time to sit here, I

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:30:30 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 09:25 -0700, James Ausmus wrote: When you forget which package a command (or any random file) belongs to, a great way to figure it out would be: equery belongs $(which q) Or use 'q' to find itself: $ q

Blank screen after Xorg update (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED])

2009-10-11 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote: At the moment I am away for two days from my machine, and so I am doing the BIG update now. xorg-server is upgraded to 1.6.3.901-r2, I followed the upgrade guide and also did the libxcb stuff. I removed then kdeprefix use flag, unmerged all of kde-4.2, updated world, depcleaned. Now

Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:04:57 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 17:23:14 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: since everything kde depends on kdelibs you could mask that I tried that, but of course the problem is that I get a whole load of errors because things that want to be

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 23:25:02 Dale wrote: To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I now have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?

2009-10-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:29:19 Dale wrote: equery belongs $(which q) ;) -James Dale :-) :-) I knew how to do it but I thought it would return a lot of hits from anything containing the letter q. Later on when I had a little bit of

[gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-10-11, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate Do okular or

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH
Peter Ruskin schrieb: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's =

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH
Alan McKinnon schrieb: On Sunday 11 October 2009 23:25:02 Dale wrote: To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I now have to downgrade myself to still wet behind

[gentoo-user] Re: Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-11 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Reffett wrote: It could be manually downloaded from http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/package.keywords/kde-4.3.keywords;hb=master We actually have a package.mask file for KDE 4.3 at [1].

Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Denis
He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate I am flexible on acroread, but acroread doesn't crash X - just gets a little

[gentoo-user] Re: Blank screen after Xorg update

2009-10-11 Thread walt
On 10/11/2009 02:30 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: I wrote: At the moment I am away for two days from my machine, and so I am doing the BIG update now. xorg-server is upgraded to 1.6.3.901-r2, I followed the upgrade guide and also did the libxcb stuff. I removed then kdeprefix use flag, unmerged

[gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread walt
On 10/11/2009 05:14 PM, Denis wrote: He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate I am flexible on acroread, but acroread

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Denis
But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - I agree, it shouldn't crash.  Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on an icon in a menu?  If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command prompt because you may see some helpful error messages before the crash. I

[gentoo-user] Konqueror 4.3.1 crashed X

2009-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
Has anyone else seen anything like this ? Using Konqueror 4.3.1 , I entered Ctl-Shift-Rightarrow to move a tab X vanished ! I don't remember that happening with any app in recent years. There was a report earlier today re something similar with a math pkg someone was complaining bitterly in

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 00:04 +0200, KH wrote: Peter Ruskin schrieb: I'm 71 ... is that old enough? To use a trendy idiom: That's cool. I believe the current trendy idiom (with the identical meaning) is That's hot. Thus portraying exactly the problem with our language. :x --K

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
091011 Mike Edenfield wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 00:04 +0200, KH wrote: Peter Ruskin schrieb: I'm 71 ... is that old enough? To use a trendy idiom: That's cool. I believe the current trendy idiom (with the identical meaning) is That's hot. Thus portraying exactly the problem with our

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Brandon Vargo
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 21:46 -0400, Denis wrote: But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - I agree, it shouldn't crash. Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on an icon in a menu? If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command prompt because you may

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Denis
Brandon, Thanks very much for all this information about Mathematica - that gives me a glimmer of hope! 1) If you haven't already, recompile your xf86* packages. Somehow I missed those when upgrading X, which caused issues for me. I did recompile all the xf86 packages that qlist came up with.

Re: [gentoo-user] Migration to baselayout2 / openrc

2009-10-11 Thread Eray Aslan
On 10.10.2009 13:01, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: On gentoo web I found this: 2. Migration to OpenRC Migration to OpenRC is fairly straightforward; it will be pulled in as part of your regular upgrade process by your package manager. PPP startup scripts still do not work with openrc.