Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 09:00 on Tuesday 01 February 2011, Mick did opine thusly: On Monday 31 January 2011 23:31:23 Alan McKinnon wrote: So it's not even a learning opportunity. But upgrading to KDE-4.6.0 from 4.5.x when I had kbluetooth installed - now *that* was an excellent

Re: [gentoo-user] dd'ing small drive to large one

2011-02-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 01:34:46 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: And shouldn't dd be a little faster for a full drive because there is no file system overhead, no seeking operations? Only is the drive is really full, and if it's that full the filesystem will be fragmented horribly and a cloned copy is

Re: [gentoo-user] USB stick recognition problem

2011-02-01 Thread Gregory SACRE
Hi Helmut, It sounds like there is a problem with the partition table on your USB stick. It might be the consequence of a hardware failure (read or more probably write) at some point. If, as you mention, once you do an fdisk then p, you can use once again your USB stick, then maybe save

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems...

2011-02-01 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com Nils Holland wrote: On 21:35 Mon 31 Jan , Francesco Talamona wrote: On Monday 31 January 2011, BRM wrote: I just wrote a new script last night, but I'm still not sure that all of the parameters are correct

Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-01 Thread Gregory SACRE
Hi Stephan, Frankly, I don't think it would bring anything to you, except maybe the possibility to cancel a suspension on the fly and maybe some check when coming from suspension. I'm using tuxonice only for the suspend to disk, but even there, the kernel has some builtin features that would be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems...

2011-02-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 05:48:32 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: If the machine is not fast enough - mine is a PII 233 w/160 MB RAM, takes a while do to updates - then you really have to separate out what you are hosting from what you are using. Otherwise you end up in the situation that you have started

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems...

2011-02-01 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 05:48:32 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: If the machine is not fast enough - mine is a PII 233 w/160 MB RAM, takes a while do to updates - then you really have to separate out what you are hosting from what you are using. Otherwise you end up in the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Portage can deal with a pure kde-4.5.x to 4.6.0 upgrade, the blockers are all soft ones so they just get automagically dealt with. But kbluetooth has this gem: COMMON_DEPEND= kde-base/kdelibs-4.6[semantic-desktop?] kde-base/libkworkspace-4.6

Re: [gentoo-user] BUG: using smp_processor_id() in preemptible [00000000] code: X/4018

2011-02-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 13:02:46 Adam Carter wrote: Volker - do you have CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU set? (X) Tree-based hierarchical RCU RCU Implementation (Tree-based hierarchical RCU) --- │ │ │ │[ ] Enable tracing for RCU

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 01.02.2011 18:38, schrieb Dale: Do you have k3b installed? I tried to install it here, it was a blocker earlier so I -C'd it, and it appears k3b wants a older version of qt stuff and KDE 4.6 wants the new versions of qt stuff. I have not been able to work around this yet but would love to

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:38 on Tuesday 01 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: Portage can deal with a pure kde-4.5.x to 4.6.0 upgrade, the blockers are all soft ones so they just get automagically dealt with. But kbluetooth has this gem:

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Of course it can be done :-) Output trimmed for brevity. $ eix kdebase-meta [I] kde-base/kdebase-meta Available versions: (4.4) 4.4.5 (4.5) (~)4.5.5 (4.6) {M}(~)4.6.0 {aqua kdeprefix} Installed versions:

[gentoo-user] How can I reset mount-count?

2011-02-01 Thread Jarry
Hi, I use one drive just for backup, co I mount/unmount it only when I need it (quite frequently). Since some time I started getting these messages in /var/log/kernel.log: kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds kernel: EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems...

2011-02-01 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 05:48:32 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: If the machine is not fast enough - mine is a PII 233 w/160 MB RAM, takes a while do to updates - then you really have to separate out what you are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems...

2011-02-01 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 12:20:56 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems... Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 05:48:32 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: If the machine is

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:25 on Tuesday 01 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: Of course it can be done :-) Output trimmed for brevity. $ eix kdebase-meta [I] kde-base/kdebase-meta Available versions: (4.4) 4.4.5

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I reset mount-count?

2011-02-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:05 on Tuesday 01 February 2011, Jarry did opine thusly: Hi, I use one drive just for backup, co I mount/unmount it only when I need it (quite frequently). Since some time I started getting these messages in /var/log/kernel.log: kernel: kjournald

Re: [gentoo-user] HDD with too aggressive power management

2011-02-01 Thread Nils Holland
On 08:38 Tue 01 Feb , Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 22:09 +0100, Nils Holland wrote: However, now comes the problem: It seems that whenever I change from wall power to battery power (probably also vice versa, but I haven't tested this often enough), the machine's

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I reset mount-count?

2011-02-01 Thread Dale
Jarry wrote: Hi, I use one drive just for backup, co I mount/unmount it only when I need it (quite frequently). Since some time I started getting these messages in /var/log/kernel.log: kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds kernel: EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems...

2011-02-01 Thread Dale
BRM wrote: And you're doing a typically manual process for updating all the systems - update your server first, then any rsync clients. Fine dandy if that is your process - but it's not mine. I may update my laptop twice as often as the other two, especially if I want to play with some software

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 21:25 on Tuesday 01 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: (x11-libs/qt-multimedia-4.6.3, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by =x11-libs/qt-multimedia-4.6.0:4 required by (app-cdr/k3b-2.0.2-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems...

2011-02-01 Thread Nils Holland
On 18:13 Mon 31 Jan , Dale wrote: Nils Holland wrote: In fact, what I always do is sync one of my machines with an official Gentoo mirror via emerge --sync, and then I just use rsync to distribute the updated tree to all my other local machines as in: rsync --delete -trmv

Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 01.02.2011 14:55, schrieb Gregory SACRE: Hi Stephan, Frankly, I don't think it would bring anything to you, except maybe the possibility to cancel a suspension on the fly and maybe some check when coming from suspension. I'm using tuxonice only for the suspend to disk, but even

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:29 on Tuesday 01 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 21:25 on Tuesday 01 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: (x11-libs/qt-multimedia-4.6.3, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Dale
Sebastian Beßler wrote: I have KDE 4.6 and k3b installed here without problems. metatron@Shao ~ $ emerge $(qlist -IC qt- k3b kdelibs) -vp These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] x11-libs/qt-core-4.7.1-r1 USE=exceptions glib

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Yup, that output looks much better. And you can take a roasting joke in your stride (good man!). I think we all need to put our heads together and come up with sensible formatting for emerge's error output. Coz I'm sure getting tired of pawing my way through endless lines

Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:55:43 +0100, Gregory SACRE wrote: tuxonice is mainly some wrapping scripts that makes the suspension more feature full than the bare kernel provided but in the end, they still use what the kernel provides. Tuxonice also includes kernel patches, so it isn't only using

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:34 on Wednesday 02 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: Yup, that output looks much better. And you can take a roasting joke in your stride (good man!). I think we all need to put our heads together and come up with sensible

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems...

2011-02-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 31 January 2011 22:26:20 BRM wrote: emerge --sync works fine for your _normal_ portage tree. But if you are running a mirror on a gentoo system that also needs its own copy of portage, then you really need to have two portage trees on the system. One portage tree is hosted by rsync

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Problems...

2011-02-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 20:43:43 BRM wrote: And you're doing a typically manual process for updating all the systems - update your server first, then any rsync clients. Fine dandy if that is your process - but it's not mine. I may update my laptop twice as often as the other two,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree

2011-02-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 23:56:32 Alan McKinnon wrote: It makes sense to a programmer. It's not supposed to make sense to a programmer, as you know as well as I do. It's supposed to make sense to the poor fool reading it. :-) -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.

[gentoo-user] init scripts failing after server update

2011-02-01 Thread Francisco Ares
Hi Around 8 to 10 months I've left a server without updates, and now, after also building a new kernel, emerging new gcc, glibc, re-emerging baselayout, sysvinit and all packages that contains something in /etc/init.d/ , the boot process hangs after a few of the scripts (normally at keymaps or

Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.02.2011 00:33, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:55:43 +0100, Gregory SACRE wrote: tuxonice is mainly some wrapping scripts that makes the suspension more feature full than the bare kernel provided but in the end, they still use what the kernel provides. Tuxonice also

[gentoo-user] --depclean complains that a package is not installed but it is installed.

2011-02-01 Thread Dale
I run --depclean every once and a while to see if anything is not needed anymore. Sort of do a little house cleaning. When I run it, it gives me this message: Calculating dependencies... done! * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to * the following required packages not