Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 00:03 -0500, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: DAle, Hi Dale, not quite the same but something else to check - after my 6monthly update round, I had two systems where FF refused to run - just flashed up died. Erase .mozilla allowed one restart where I got a window, any

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: Yea, that does sound familiar. Trying to recall who could have had that problem. H. Oh, it was me !! lol This is my card info: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT200 [GeForce GT 220] (rev a2) Drivers: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-270.41.19 That is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Dale
Bill Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 00:03 -0500, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: DAle, Hi Dale, not quite the same but something else to check - after my 6monthly update round, I had two systems where FF refused to run - just flashed up died. Erase .mozilla allowed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: Bill Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 00:03 -0500, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: DAle, Hi Dale, not quite the same but something else to check - after my 6monthly update round, I had two systems where FF refused to run - just flashed up died. Erase .mozilla allowed one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2011/7/11 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Dale wrote: Bill Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 00:03 -0500, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: DAle, Hi Dale, not quite the same but something else to check - after my 6monthly update round, I had two systems where FF refused to run - just

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:26:37 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: it my get rid of the problem temporarily but you still have no idea of what the problem was or what to do should it reoccur. s/reoccur/recur/ Speaking as one old pedant to another... From the OED: reoccur: occur again or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:10:15 -0700, walt wrote: My deal was the lost compile time. If I had started it about 3 hours earlier or the lights would have blinked a few hours later then not so much would have been lost. That's when I use ebuild instead of starting the emerge from scratch.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:27:32 -0500, Dale wrote: WAG - have you tried the nv drivers? I did but I couldn't get X to even start. I guess something is not set right somewhere. I have nv in make.conf and been there since I built this thing so sort of clueless on why it don't work. Did you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread William Kenworthy
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 02:21 -0500, Dale wrote: Dale wrote: Bill Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 00:03 -0500, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: DAle, Hi Dale, not quite the same but something else to check - after my 6monthly update round, I had two systems where FF refused to run

[gentoo-user] ?? CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND ??

2011-07-11 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo. Just done an emerge -puND world. One of the packages updated was sys-fs/udisks-1.0.3-r1. Its warning message was: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be. * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly. * Failure to do so may cause

Re: [gentoo-user] ?? CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND ??

2011-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 11 July 2011 10:16:33 Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: Hi, Gentoo. Just done an emerge -puND world. One of the packages updated was sys-fs/udisks-1.0.3-r1. Its warning message was: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be. * Please check to make sure

Re: [gentoo-user] ?? CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND ??

2011-07-11 Thread netfab
Le 11/07/11 à 10:16, Alan a tapoté : Would somebody please help me to resolve my confusion. Thanks in advance. You must enable the following option first, and then you will find it into the USB section. Symbol: PM_RUNTIME [=n] │ Prompt: Run-time PM core functionality │ - Power

Re: [gentoo-user] ?? CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND ??

2011-07-11 Thread Roman Zilka
Alan Mackenzie (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:16:33 +): Hi, Gentoo. Just done an emerge -puND world. One of the packages updated was sys-fs/udisks-1.0.3-r1. Its warning message was: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be. * Please check to make sure these options

Re: [gentoo-user] RE: Thunderbugs

2011-07-11 Thread jdm
There real name is thripids. And are a darn nuissance. They seemingly have stopped moving after being fried by watching youtube clips of the real Thunderbugs. Flashplayer actually has got some use after all. --Original Message-- From: Pandu Poluan Sender: Pandu Poluan To: Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] ?? CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND ??

2011-07-11 Thread methylherd
Am Montag, 11. Juli 2011, 12:16:33 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: Hi, Gentoo. Just done an emerge -puND world. One of the packages updated was sys-fs/udisks-1.0.3-r1. Its warning message was: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be. * Please check to make sure these

Re: [gentoo-user] ?? CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND ??

2011-07-11 Thread Mick
On Monday 11 Jul 2011 11:16:33 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo. Just done an emerge -puND world. One of the packages updated was sys-fs/udisks-1.0.3-r1. Its warning message was: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be. * Please check to make sure these

Re: [gentoo-user] ?? CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND ??

2011-07-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, July 11 at 10:16 (+), Alan Mackenzie said: Hi, Gentoo. Just done an emerge -puND world. One of the packages updated was sys-fs/udisks-1.0.3-r1. Its warning message was: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be. * Please check to make sure

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: DAle,    PLEASE look at bullet item #3 in this NVidia release: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-275.09.07-driver.html QUOTE Fixed a bug that caused freezes and crashes when resizing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:47:28 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: That is the latest for my card that is in the tree. No! It is not the latest. It's just what portage is offering you. The link I sent you clearly (!?) stated that you need to be running the latest 'Certified' driver revision

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/11/11 09:45, Neil Bothwick wrote: Gentoo devs don't mark software as stable, they mark ebuilds as stable. This has no direct link to the usability of the software itself. Nuh uh. From http://devmanual.gentoo.org/keywording/index.html, arch (x86, ppc-macos) Both the package

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:47:28 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: That is the latest for my card that is in the tree. No! It is not the latest. It's just what portage is offering you. The link I sent you clearly (!?) stated that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 07/11/11 09:45, Neil Bothwick wrote: Gentoo devs don't mark software as stable, they mark ebuilds as stable. This has no direct link to the usability of the software itself. Nuh uh. From

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 11 July 2011 10:10:41 Neil Bothwick wrote: From the OED: reoccur: occur again or habitually I don't regard myself bound by others' ability to find earlier examples of the same mistake. We have 'occur', 'incur', 'concur' and 'recur'. It is rarely a good idea to compound prefixes.

Re: [gentoo-user] ?? CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND ??

2011-07-11 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alan. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:33:46PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 11 July 2011 10:16:33 Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: Hi, Gentoo. Just done an emerge -puND world. One of the packages updated was sys-fs/udisks-1.0.3-r1. Its warning message was:

[gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-11 Thread James
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes: After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo routers. This increases the number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible for and they're nearing double-digits. What can be done to make the management of multiple

[gentoo-user] qemu command line manager (rc scripts)

2011-07-11 Thread Kfir Lavi
Hi, I'm looking for xen like manager to manage my virtual machines when computer boots. Is there any such project? Regards, Kfir

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am Mo 11 Jul 2011 17:18:16 CEST, Peter Humphrey schrieb: I doubt I shall ever accept 'reoccur', any more than I accept 'transportation'. It's way OT but what is wrong with 'transportation'. If it is wrong, how would it be right? I'm not a native speaker so I might be blind to see the error.

Re: [gentoo-user] qemu command line manager (rc scripts)

2011-07-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, July 11 at 18:28 (+0300), Kfir Lavi said: Hi, I'm looking for xen like manager to manage my virtual machines when computer boots. Is there any such project? libvirt (can also manage Xen): http://libvirt.org/

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Alex Schuster
walt writes: [interrupted emerges] That's when I use ebuild instead of starting the emerge from scratch. Let's say I'm emerging libreoffice and the machine goes down (shudder). After fixing the problem I would try the following: #cd /usr/portage/app-office/libreoffice/ #ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Bill Longman
On 07/11/2011 09:26 AM, Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am Mo 11 Jul 2011 17:18:16 CEST, Peter Humphrey schrieb: I doubt I shall ever accept 'reoccur', any more than I accept 'transportation'. It's way OT but what is wrong with 'transportation'. If it is wrong, how would it be right? I'm not a

[gentoo-user] Getting genkernel to use newer dmraid

2011-07-11 Thread Daniel Frey
Hi all, I've been trying to get genkernel to use a newer version of dmraid. For some reason, genkernel is using a build from 2006 (!) I've tried an ubuntu livecd which uses a build that's available in portage that works with my fakeraid. All this to try to dual-boot using a raid 1+0. I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale asks: While I am at it, what is the syntax to mask a package higher than a certain version in package.mask? I tired =package.name.version and tried = package.name.version but the former doesn't work and seems to ignore it and the later makes emerge print a boo boo message. On my old

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting genkernel to use newer dmraid

2011-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 11 July 2011 10:09:38 Daniel Frey did opine thusly: Hi all, I've been trying to get genkernel to use a newer version of dmraid. For some reason, genkernel is using a build from 2006 (!) I've tried an ubuntu livecd which uses a build that's available in portage that works with my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Dale
Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: 2011/7/11 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com: Dale wrote: Bill Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 00:03 -0500, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: DAle, Hi Dale, not quite the same but something else to check -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:42:06 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: Although Neil may have a point when he says that an unclean shutdown could have corrupted things. I was under the impression that with a journaling file system this should be safe, but I do not know much bout this. Journalling normally

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:17:28 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Gentoo devs don't mark software as stable, they mark ebuilds as stable. This has no direct link to the usability of the software itself. Nuh uh. From http://devmanual.gentoo.org/keywording/index.html, arch (x86,

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:18:16 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: From the OED: reoccur: occur again or habitually I don't regard myself bound by others' ability to find earlier examples of the same mistake. We have 'occur', 'incur', 'concur' and 'recur'. It is rarely a good idea to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: DAle, PLEASE look at bullet item #3 in this NVidia release: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-275.09.07-driver.html QUOTE Fixed a bug that caused freezes and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:27:32 -0500, Dale wrote: WAG - have you tried the nv drivers? I did but I couldn't get X to even start. I guess something is not set right somewhere. I have nv in make.conf and been there since I built this thing so sort of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: SNIP No! It is not the latest. It's just what portage is offering you. The link I sent you clearly (!?) stated that you need to be running the latest 'Certified' driver revision 275.09.07 to get this fix. Just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale asks: While I am at it, what is the syntax to mask a package higher than a certain version in package.mask? I tired =package.name.version and tried= package.name.version but the former doesn't work and seems to ignore it and the later makes emerge print a boo boo

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread walt
On 07/11/2011 09:42 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: Although Neil may have a point when he says that an unclean shutdown could have corrupted things. I was under the impression that with a journaling file system this should be safe, but I do not know much bout this. I agree with Neil so (if I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote: SNIP No! It is not the latest. It's just what portage is offering you. The link I sent you clearly (!?) stated that you need to be running the latest 'Certified' driver revision 275.09.07 to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Dale
walt wrote: On 07/11/2011 09:42 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: Although Neil may have a point when he says that an unclean shutdown could have corrupted things. I was under the impression that with a journaling file system this should be safe, but I do not know much bout this. I agree

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 11 July 2011 17:26:36 Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am Mo 11 Jul 2011 17:18:16 CEST, Peter Humphrey schrieb: I doubt I shall ever accept 'reoccur', any more than I accept 'transportation'. It's way OT but what is wrong with 'transportation'. If it is wrong, how would it be right? It

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 11 July 2011 22:01:02 Neil Bothwick wrote: But an admitted pedantic response deserves a reply from the OED :P ...which is no more than an observer of trends. It offers precious little help in what one ought to do. A few years ago our Queen uttered a solecism (well, it had to happen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 11 July 2011 23:30:40 Dale wrote: WOW !!! I'm not the only one that leaves out the word NOT. Funny how that three letter word can change the meaning of a sentence so much. It seems to turn things on its head so to speak. ;-) Is that why I seem only to see the word 'not' in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:30:40 -0500, Dale wrote: WOW !!! I'm not the only one that leaves out the word NOT. Funny how that three letter word can change the meaning of a sentence so much. It seems to turn things on its head so to speak. ;-) That is more or less the idea of the word :P --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-11 Thread Grant
And now that I look more closely at KVM switches, it looks like they provide a method of controlling multiple computers via a single keyboard, monitor, and mouse.  I need sort of the inverse.  I'd like to control a single Gentoo computer via multiple sets of keyboards, monitors, and mice

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:09:42 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: But an admitted pedantic response deserves a reply from the OED :P ...which is no more than an observer of trends. It offers precious little help in what one ought to do. Isn't that how language develops, through trends? My point

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:43:06 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: It isn't wrong, it's just silly. Americans love to add '-ation' to everything. Just consider 'motivation', for example. It nearly always means 'motive'. Ditto 'medication', which is nearly always 'medicine'. I could go on all night,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-11 Thread Grant
After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo routers.  This increases the number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible for and they're nearing double-digits.  What can be done to make the management of multiple Gentoo systems easier? I think identical

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers

2011-07-11 Thread Grant
When I was using an Nvidia video card, I noticed a strange sort of fuzzy edge effect if I used nvidia-drivers.  xf86-video-nouveau didn't have the same problem.  Now I've switched to an ATI video card and unfortunately I have the same problem with xf86-video-ati.  I tried to enable the new

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread walt
On 07/11/2011 02:30 PM, Dale wrote: =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.99.99 or something to that effect. I just can't recall how to do it at the moment but each time I do a emerge -uvDNa world, it wants to upgrade the nvidia drivers to the 275 series or something. I've had the same problem many

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread walt
On 07/11/2011 04:09 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: A few years ago our Queen uttered a solecism (well, it had to happen sooner or later, and as far as I know it's the only one). A famous American politician, recently retired, has never uttered a non-solecism. Or would that be un-solecism?

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting genkernel to use newer dmraid

2011-07-11 Thread Daniel Frey
On 01/-10/37 11:59, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 11 July 2011 10:09:38 Daniel Frey did opine thusly: Hi all, I've been trying to get genkernel to use a newer version of dmraid. For some reason, genkernel is using a build from 2006 (!) I've tried an ubuntu livecd which uses a build that's

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/11/2011 07:40 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:43:06 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: It isn't wrong, it's just silly. Americans love to add '-ation' to everything. Just consider 'motivation', for example. It nearly always means 'motive'. Ditto 'medication', which is nearly

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 11 July 2011 23:43:06 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 11 July 2011 17:26:36 Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am Mo 11 Jul 2011 17:18:16 CEST, Peter Humphrey schrieb: I doubt I shall ever accept 'reoccur', any more than I accept 'transportation'. It's way OT but what is wrong with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-11 Thread James Wall
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Have you considered using PXE to network boot your systems? you can have various configurations set up based on mac addresses to address different hardware issues. I recommend trying out SystemRescueCD to experiment with PXE

[gentoo-user] {OT} 802.11n PCI-E 300Mbps with AP mode?

2011-07-11 Thread Grant
I'm planning to get one of these to act as a wireless bridge between my modem and Gentoo router: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=33-127-256 I'll need an 802.11n PCI-E card that does 300Mbps and works in AP mode for the router. Does anyone know of such a card? I've read that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-11 Thread Dale
James Wall wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: No trees were harmed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. That's hilarious. :) - Grant Thanks. A friend shared that with me.