[gentoo-user] Re: [O/T] RAID help - now won't boot

2013-10-22 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 21/10/13, Mick wrote:

 I'm fast gravitating towards this option ...
 
 Although with metadata 0.90 I was able to progress with the installation 
 (after I deselected the swap partitions) the grub-install script wanted to 
 install in /dev/md127p1 but it failed.  I had to override the Ubuntu 
 installer 
 since I could only install grub in the /dev/md127 block device.

Which is the one we expect. /dev/md127p1 is the first partition of
/dev/md127.

  BTW, I'm 
 still at a loss as to why for Ubuntu the RAID 1 is seen as /dev/md127 and not 
 /dev/md0 which I created originally with sysrescuecd.

Names of RAID devices are built at boot time. It depends on
/etc/mdadm.conf which should be part of the initramfs. Otherwise,
consider the name random.

 Either way, it won't boot again.  Now it stays on a blank screen, no error at 
 all shown.

I don't understand why this blank screen. Or do you mean a black screen?

 I'll have another go with sysrescueCD to see if I install grub on 
 /dev/sda and /dev/sdb and if this does not work either, 

It should work. Linux software RAID is assembled once the kernel is up
and running. Before, the system boot as usual on a single disk. Though,
I'm not sure how mdadm will handle the disk change behind his back.

Once the installed system is bootable, I suggest you to try to reinstall
grub. This will be required at some point in time in the future to
update it either way.

 I'll stop wasting 
 time 
 and follow your suggestion of installing on a single disk first, before I 
 mirror it thereafter.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:57:21 -0500, Dale wrote:

  press Tab at the boot menu to edit isolinux options. But use one of
  the specifically 64 bit menu items, not the generic one that tries to
  determine your CPU type on the fly.
 
 Thanks.  I thought there was a way to edit it but I was going to have to
 just look and see if I could figure it out.  This helps.  It gives me
 hope that it is doable too.  ;-) 
 
 I wonder, if I try to boot the 32 bit version if it would work? 
 According to some of the things I read, it affects the 64 bit stuff but
 not 32 bit stuff.  Hm.  Interesting.  ^-^

That's a good idea. Both use the same userspace so the only difference is
in the kernels, and I doubt there are many differences between them
except for the target architecture, so it old be a good test. You could
also try the two versions of the alt kernel.


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Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-22 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 10/21/2013 03:33 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Am 20.10.2013 13:18, schrieb Daniel Campbell:
 On 10/20/2013 06:02 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Am 20.10.2013 12:52, schrieb Daniel Campbell:
 On 10/20/2013 04:24 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Am 20.10.2013 08:34, schrieb Daniel Campbell:
 hm, Redhat is one of the companies investing the most money into linux
 kernel, userland, graphics... if you 'don't trust them' you are pretty
 much 20 years too late.
 Investing money does not make them any more qualified or deserving of
 making decisions. Red Hat is not the sole user of Linux. They should
 consider themselves lucky that they are even able to profit from
 something that's free.

 You're right, though. They've been around for a while, and I've never
 trusted them or any other corporate interest in *nix. There's always a
 catch when dealing with a business.

 'have been around for a while' - replace that with 'are financing more
 core developers than anybody else'.

 That's less reason to trust, not more. That's like citing the popularity
 of something as proof of its quality, when oftentimes it's the exact
 opposite that's true.

 So they spend a lot of money hiring developers. The more important
 question is what is their agenda? What do they tell those developers to
 *make*? You don't hire people without a business plan in mind.


 without Redhat, there would be no linux. gnu software would be massively
 lacking and X would be without drivers.

 So calm down.

 Linux was created and released in 1991, built with GNU tools. Red Hat
 didn't come along until 1993. Linux and GNU would both still be here;
 their quality without Red Hat involvement is speculative at best.
 
 no, it is not. Several of the most important Kernel devs are or were
 Redhat developers.
 
 So you just showed that you have no clue at all. You should stop right
 there.
I do have a clue, but there is logically no way to say, for sure, that
Linux and GNU would be worse off without Red Hat's existence. Why?
Because we only know what happened _with_ their existence. The assertion
can't be validated or even tested without somehow going back in time and
preventing Red Hat from forming. It's an empty assertion.

 
 I maintain that motives matter more than money and that they (motives)
 should continually be audited, especially when receiving contributions
 from a company. They may already be; I don't know.

 Re: drivers, do you expect me to believe Red Hat is responsible for
 every X11 driver out there?
 no, but they paid a lot of developers working on several drivers.
 
 For example David Airlie is employed by Redhat.
 
 Look him up.
 
The no is all I need to see. You said X would be without drivers. So
unless Red Hat employees wrote every line of the X driver code
(unlikely) or produced every single X driver available (proven false),
the assertion is false.
 
  How many of this list?[1] What of radeon and
 
 radeon? David Airlie again.
 
 nouveau? nvidia's own driver? xf86-input-wacom (and linuxwacom)[2]? I'm
 sure Red Hat has contributed plenty to X11, but your statement is
 flat-out false.
 
 nope. Your statements lack any connection to reality.
 
 since you like links, think about this one for a while:
 
 https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/560928-counting-contributions-who-wrote-linux-32
 http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2012/04/linux-foundation-releases-annual-linux-development-report
 
 

My statements reflect the truth that Red Hat contributed to, but did not
single-handedly *build*, the GNU/Linux operating system. Without their
existence, there's no proof that the same drivers (X11 or otherwise)
wouldn't be written by some other people. Like I said, speculative at
best. On both sides.

Your links truthfully reflect that Red Hat contributes the most changes
of any company. A majority of something does not magically make it
perfect or good or whatever other mythical ideal one can conjure.

The links prove that Red Hat guides a lot of the changes. Taking a look
at the pdf[1] from 2012, Red Hat's contribution percentage, compared to
other companies, is rather high (11.9%, p.10). Almost double the next
highest contributor (Novell, at 6.4%). Why would a company invest that
much effort into something open and free if there was no agenda, no
business plan, no grander scheme or vision?

I'm sure some of their work is good. Nothing's all bad or all good. But
a company should not be trusted simply because they throw money at
something or have the most people working on something compared to other
companies. That's reason to be *suspicious*. A business does not throw
money at something unless they plan on capitalizing on it in some way.

[1]: http://go.linuxfoundation.org/who-writes-linux-2012



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-22 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:57:21 -0500, Dale wrote:

 press Tab at the boot menu to edit isolinux options. But use one of
 the specifically 64 bit menu items, not the generic one that tries to
 determine your CPU type on the fly.

 Thanks.  I thought there was a way to edit it but I was going to have to
 just look and see if I could figure it out.  This helps.  It gives me
 hope that it is doable too.  ;-)

 I wonder, if I try to boot the 32 bit version if it would work?
 According to some of the things I read, it affects the 64 bit stuff but
 not 32 bit stuff.  Hm.  Interesting.  ^-^

 That's a good idea. Both use the same userspace so the only difference is
 in the kernels, and I doubt there are many differences between them
 except for the target architecture, so it old be a good test. You could
 also try the two versions of the alt kernel.



Every once in a while, my brain actually comes up with something.  ROFL

Want to hear something equally funny?  I started the UPS service that
started this whole mess to see if it works.  This is from messages:

Oct 22 02:47:50 localhost kernel: [51255.888492] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:47:52 localhost kernel: [51257.891409] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:47:54 localhost kernel: [51259.902338] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:47:56 localhost kernel: [51261.905256] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:47:58 localhost kernel: [51263.916194] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:00 localhost kernel: [51265.919112] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:02 localhost kernel: [51267.930020] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:04 localhost kernel: [51269.932920] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:06 localhost kernel: [51271.943841] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:08 localhost kernel: [51273.946758] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:10 localhost kernel: [51275.949676] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:12 localhost kernel: [51277.960606] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:14 localhost kernel: [51279.963523] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:16 localhost kernel: [51281.974454] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:18 localhost kernel: [51283.977370] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:20 localhost kernel: [51285.980286] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:48:22 localhost kernel: [51287.991218] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121

So, new mobo and $120 later, same freakin error.  All this, still in the
same hole.  Now ain't that something?   Dale is going to the shop and
getting his mini sledge 

Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S. I got a email off list that explained this IOMMU thingy.  Water is
a little clearer now.  lol

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 04:04:21 -0500, Dale wrote:

 Want to hear something equally funny?  I started the UPS service that
 started this whole mess to see if it works.  This is from messages:

 So, new mobo and $120 later, same freakin error.  All this, still in the
 same hole.  Now ain't that something?   Dale is going to the shop and
 getting his mini sledge 

Did you consider the possibility that the fault lies within the UPS?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-22 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 04:04:21 -0500, Dale wrote:

 Want to hear something equally funny?  I started the UPS service that
 started this whole mess to see if it works.  This is from messages:

 So, new mobo and $120 later, same freakin error.  All this, still in the
 same hole.  Now ain't that something?   Dale is going to the shop and
 getting his mini sledge 

 Did you consider the possibility that the fault lies within the UPS?




Yep.  The UPS costs even more than the mobo tho.  ;-)  Still sucks tho. 
As it was, I don't have anything to test the UPS with.  I had to replace
something.

Oh well.  Live and learn.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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how you interpreted my words!



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 05:52:06 -0500, Dale wrote:

  Did you consider the possibility that the fault lies within the UPS?

 Yep.  The UPS costs even more than the mobo tho.  ;-)  Still sucks tho. 
 As it was, I don't have anything to test the UPS with.  I had to replace
 something.

Take the UPS to a friend's house and connect it to his computer. If it
breaks:

1) Get a new UPS
2) Get a new friend


-- 
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WinErr 004: Erroneous error - Nothing is wrong


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-22 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 05:52:06 -0500, Dale wrote:

 Did you consider the possibility that the fault lies within the UPS?
 Yep.  The UPS costs even more than the mobo tho.  ;-)  Still sucks tho. 
 As it was, I don't have anything to test the UPS with.  I had to replace
 something.
 Take the UPS to a friend's house and connect it to his computer. If it
 breaks:

 1) Get a new UPS
 2) Get a new friend




Well, I thought of taking it to my bros.  Thing is, his puter is already
flakey.  It reboots at will sometimes, video just goes blank, keyboard
stops working etc etc etc.  I think the mobo in that thing is just about
gone.  It's about 10 years old tho.  Slow as syrup that just came out of
a freezer too.  Oh, only 768MBs of ram.  O_O  That is maxed out.  It's
all the mobo can take. 

At least now I have the makings of a new rig tho.  I got a mobo and some
ram.  LOL 

I hate crawling under my desk tho. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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[gentoo-user] Is the ebuild for dhcpcd wrong

2013-10-22 Thread Chris Allison
Hello,

when emerging dhcpcd it attempts to retrieve the source from
mirrorname/distfiles/...
looking at the mirror the file is actually at
mirrorname/gentoo/distfiles/...

Is this the correct place to bring this to your attention?

regards

Chris
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[gentoo-user] Re: cflags for atom

2013-10-22 Thread James
Adam Carter adamcarter3 at gmail.com writes:



 The i686 and -Os ideas are interesting. 

SMALL is better. I've run numerous embedded and minimized gentoo systems
over the years. 

Here is the make.conf from a i586:
CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-Os -march=i586 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
PORTAGE_NICENESS=1

MAKEOPTS=-j2
USE=-* -nls mmx hardened  ncurses ssl crypt berkdb tcpd pam perl pcre \
python readline zlib bzip2 nptl nptlonly syslog

MINIMIZE your efforts!


 Also - try diffing the kernel .configs - maybe you missed something
 important on the slow system. 

I spent days  building several kernels; keep at least 2 so when you minimize
yourself into oblivion, you can recover with the known, working
kernel. Days and Days of  minimize-test-reboot (rinse and repeat)
before I got a minimized hardened kernel, that worked well. SMALL is
superior to OPTIMIZED, ihmo.

That said, if you are trying to make it a graphically minimized
portable workstation, experiment with only what you need.
HTOP is the best app to watch along with IOtop, as you use the
system. Published benchmarks will be mostly irrelevant, imho.

Here is a busy, i586 


Load average:   0.00   0.00   0.00
mem  9/248 MB
CPU  2.0%

[1] www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/



ymmv,
James








Re: [gentoo-user] Is the ebuild for dhcpcd wrong

2013-10-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/10/2013 13:37, Chris Allison wrote:
 Hello,
 
 when emerging dhcpcd it attempts to retrieve the source from
 mirrorname/distfiles/...
 looking at the mirror the file is actually at
 mirrorname/gentoo/distfiles/...
 
 Is this the correct place to bring this to your attention?
 
 regards
 
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That mirror is set up wrong, contact the admins of the mirror you are
using. Proper mirrors work properly:

 Fetching (1 of 1) net-misc/dhcpcd-6.1.0
 Downloading
'ftp://ftp.is.co.za/mirror/gentoo.org/distfiles/dhcpcd-6.1.0.tar.bz2'
--2013-10-22 15:21:46--
ftp://ftp.is.co.za/mirror/gentoo.org/distfiles/dhcpcd-6.1.0.tar.bz2
   = ‘/var/distfiles/dhcpcd-6.1.0.tar.bz2’
Resolving ftp.is.co.za... 196.4.160.12
Connecting to ftp.is.co.za|196.4.160.12|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
== SYST ... done.== PWD ... done.
== TYPE I ... done.  == CWD (1) /mirror/gentoo.org/distfiles ... done.
== SIZE dhcpcd-6.1.0.tar.bz2 ... 113671
== PASV ... done.== RETR dhcpcd-6.1.0.tar.bz2 ... done.
Length: 113671 (111K) (unauthoritative)

100%[] 113,671 --.-K/s   in
0.1s


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[gentoo-user] Why is iptables-xml (in net-firewall/iptables) in /usr/bin/ rather than /sbin/

2013-10-22 Thread 颜林林
Hi there,

After net-firewall/iptables-1.4.16.3 (amd64) installed, I occasionally
found that it put iptables-xml ('s symbolic link) in /usr/bin/, but
other tools (like iptables-restore and iptables-save) are not. Is
there any trick about this?

Best wishes!
Linlin



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-22 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 04:04:21AM -0500, Dale wrote:
 
 Every once in a while, my brain actually comes up with something.  ROFL
 
 Want to hear something equally funny?  I started the UPS service that
 started this whole mess to see if it works.  This is from messages:
 
 Oct 22 02:47:50 localhost kernel: [51255.888492] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:52 localhost kernel: [51257.891409] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:54 localhost kernel: [51259.902338] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:56 localhost kernel: [51261.905256] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:58 localhost kernel: [51263.916194] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:00 localhost kernel: [51265.919112] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:02 localhost kernel: [51267.930020] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:04 localhost kernel: [51269.932920] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:06 localhost kernel: [51271.943841] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:08 localhost kernel: [51273.946758] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:10 localhost kernel: [51275.949676] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:12 localhost kernel: [51277.960606] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:14 localhost kernel: [51279.963523] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:16 localhost kernel: [51281.974454] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:18 localhost kernel: [51283.977370] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:20 localhost kernel: [51285.980286] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:22 localhost kernel: [51287.991218] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 
 So, new mobo and $120 later, same freakin error.  All this, still in the
 same hole.  Now ain't that something?   Dale is going to the shop and
 getting his mini sledge 
 
 Dale

I was about to suggest you search http://www.apc.com/support/answers.cfm for a
possible meaning to status -121 from APC. Assuming it's an APC unit. I can't
search for you cause they demand cookies. Later I read Neil's reply to you.

You can always bring the UPS to Tupelo on your next visit for your brother;
along with the entire rig if you'd like.

Cheers, Homie!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is iptables-xml (in net-firewall/iptables) in /usr/bin/ rather than /sbin/

2013-10-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/22/2013 10:02 AM, Linlin Yan (颜林林) wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 After net-firewall/iptables-1.4.16.3 (amd64) installed, I occasionally
 found that it put iptables-xml ('s symbolic link) in /usr/bin/, but
 other tools (like iptables-restore and iptables-save) are not. Is
 there any trick about this?
 

The others are in /sbin because,

  a) They can't be run by anyone other than root

  b) You want them available at boot time

But as a normal user, suppose I have an old iptables-save dump lying
around. There's no problem with me running iptables-xml on it, since
that will just read a file and write some XML to stdout. No special
privileges necessary.




Re: [gentoo-user] Why is iptables-xml (in net-firewall/iptables) in /usr/bin/ rather than /sbin/

2013-10-22 Thread 颜林林
I see. Thanks for the explanation!


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
 On 10/22/2013 10:02 AM, Linlin Yan (颜林林) wrote:
 Hi there,

 After net-firewall/iptables-1.4.16.3 (amd64) installed, I occasionally
 found that it put iptables-xml ('s symbolic link) in /usr/bin/, but
 other tools (like iptables-restore and iptables-save) are not. Is
 there any trick about this?


 The others are in /sbin because,

   a) They can't be run by anyone other than root

   b) You want them available at boot time

 But as a normal user, suppose I have an old iptables-save dump lying
 around. There's no problem with me running iptables-xml on it, since
 that will just read a file and write some XML to stdout. No special
 privileges necessary.





[gentoo-user] there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19.

2013-10-22 Thread Joseph

I'm tryint to emerge: gtk+-2.24.19 on one of my x86
but I'm getting:
there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19.

I've created manifest in:
ebuild /usr/local/portage/x11-libs/gtk+/gtk+-2.24.19.ebuild manifest
Appending /usr/local/portage to PORTDIR_OVERLAY...

Creating Manifest for /usr/local/portage/x11-libs/gtk+


package.keywords has:
=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19 ~x86

--
Joseph



[gentoo-user] xorg seizes during debugging

2013-10-22 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Hello,

I got no feedback from eclipse, so I thought I would try here:

I debug a multithreaded program using Eclipse (which uses gdb
underneath).  Somtimes (but usually not) xorgs will seizes for 1-3
secconds during a step operation.

When I say xorg seizes what I mean is that the display freezes.  My
CPU graph which is always updating at 10Hz stops updating.  However,
the mouse cursor moves.

Can someone suggest a teach a man to fish approach I can use to
figure out what is causing this?

Thank you,

Chris



Re: [gentoo-user] there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19.

2013-10-22 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 09:36:46AM -0600, Joseph wrote:
 I'm tryint to emerge: gtk+-2.24.19 on one of my x86
 but I'm getting:
 there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19.
 
 package.keywords has:
 =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19 ~x86

That version is no longer in portage:

mingdao@baruch ~ $ eshowkw x11-libs/gtk+
Keywords for x11-libs/gtk+:
   |   | u   |  
   | a a p s   | n   |  
   | l m   h i m m   p s   p   | u s | r
   | p d a p a 6 i p c 3   a x | s l | e
   | h 6 r p 6 8 p p 6 9 s r 8 | e o | p
   | a 4 m a 4 k s c 4 0 h c 6 | d t | o
---+---+-+---
1.2.10-r12 | + + + + + o ~ + + o + + + | o 1 | gentoo
---+---+-+---
   2.24.16 | o o o o o o o o o + o o o | o 2 | gentoo
[I]2.24.17 | + + + + + o ~ + + o + + + | o   | gentoo
   2.24.22 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | o   | gentoo
---+---+-+---
  [I]3.4.4 | + + + + + o ~ + + + + + + | o 3 | gentoo
 3.6.3-r3  | ~ ~ + ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | o   | gentoo
 3.8.4 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | #   | gentoo
 3.8.6 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | o   | gentoo

By putting =category/package-atom in package.accept_keywords (not
package.keywords) you have limited it to that one single version and unstable
package.

Also, you need not put ~arch in package.accept_keywords because that file will
pull whatever the latest version is available for category/package.

Try changing your =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19 ~x86 to x11-libs/gtk+ and emerge
again.

Or, because you appear to have two separate issues here...

 I've created manifest in:
 ebuild /usr/local/portage/x11-libs/gtk+/gtk+-2.24.19.ebuild manifest
 Appending /usr/local/portage to PORTDIR_OVERLAY...
  Creating Manifest for /usr/local/portage/x11-libs/gtk+

Now, if you have created your own local overlay and ebuild, you need to also
provide the source and needed patches for x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-22 Thread Dale
Bruce Hill wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 04:04:21AM -0500, Dale wrote:
 Every once in a while, my brain actually comes up with something.  ROFL

 Want to hear something equally funny?  I started the UPS service that
 started this whole mess to see if it works.  This is from messages:

 Oct 22 02:47:50 localhost kernel: [51255.888492] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:52 localhost kernel: [51257.891409] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:54 localhost kernel: [51259.902338] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:56 localhost kernel: [51261.905256] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:58 localhost kernel: [51263.916194] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:00 localhost kernel: [51265.919112] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:02 localhost kernel: [51267.930020] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:04 localhost kernel: [51269.932920] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:06 localhost kernel: [51271.943841] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:08 localhost kernel: [51273.946758] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:10 localhost kernel: [51275.949676] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:12 localhost kernel: [51277.960606] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:14 localhost kernel: [51279.963523] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:16 localhost kernel: [51281.974454] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:18 localhost kernel: [51283.977370] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:20 localhost kernel: [51285.980286] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:48:22 localhost kernel: [51287.991218] ohci_hcd :00:12.0:
 urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121

 So, new mobo and $120 later, same freakin error.  All this, still in the
 same hole.  Now ain't that something?   Dale is going to the shop and
 getting his mini sledge 

 Dale
 I was about to suggest you search http://www.apc.com/support/answers.cfm for a
 possible meaning to status -121 from APC. Assuming it's an APC unit. I can't
 search for you cause they demand cookies. Later I read Neil's reply to you.

 You can always bring the UPS to Tupelo on your next visit for your brother;
 along with the entire rig if you'd like.

 Cheers, Homie!


Mine is a CyberPower UPS.  I use nut for it tho.  Just uses a different
driver.  I got it plugged into a 3.0 port now and going to test that.  I
may run up to my bothers and see what it does there too.  Bringing it up
your way could work to tho.  ;-) 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19.

2013-10-22 Thread Joseph

Thank Bruce,
My problem was that I was missing in make.conf
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage

This solved my problem.

--
Joseph


On 10/22/13 11:32, Bruce Hill wrote:

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 09:36:46AM -0600, Joseph wrote:

I'm tryint to emerge: gtk+-2.24.19 on one of my x86
but I'm getting:
there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19.

package.keywords has:
=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19 ~x86


That version is no longer in portage:

mingdao@baruch ~ $ eshowkw x11-libs/gtk+
Keywords for x11-libs/gtk+:
  |   | u   |
  | a a p s   | n   |
  | l m   h i m m   p s   p   | u s | r
  | p d a p a 6 i p c 3   a x | s l | e
  | h 6 r p 6 8 p p 6 9 s r 8 | e o | p
  | a 4 m a 4 k s c 4 0 h c 6 | d t | o
---+---+-+---
   1.2.10-r12 | + + + + + o ~ + + o + + + | o 1 | gentoo
---+---+-+---
  2.24.16 | o o o o o o o o o + o o o | o 2 | gentoo
[I]2.24.17 | + + + + + o ~ + + o + + + | o   | gentoo
  2.24.22 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | o   | gentoo
---+---+-+---
 [I]3.4.4 | + + + + + o ~ + + + + + + | o 3 | gentoo
3.6.3-r3  | ~ ~ + ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | o   | gentoo
3.8.4 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | #   | gentoo
3.8.6 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | o   | gentoo

By putting =category/package-atom in package.accept_keywords (not
package.keywords) you have limited it to that one single version and unstable
package.

Also, you need not put ~arch in package.accept_keywords because that file will
pull whatever the latest version is available for category/package.

Try changing your =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19 ~x86 to x11-libs/gtk+ and emerge
again.

Or, because you appear to have two separate issues here...


I've created manifest in:
ebuild /usr/local/portage/x11-libs/gtk+/gtk+-2.24.19.ebuild manifest
Appending /usr/local/portage to PORTDIR_OVERLAY...
 Creating Manifest for /usr/local/portage/x11-libs/gtk+


Now, if you have created your own local overlay and ebuild, you need to also
provide the source and needed patches for x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-22 Thread Edward M

On 10/22/2013 2:04 AM, Dale wrote:
I started the UPS service that started this whole mess to see if it 
works.  This is from messages:
ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 
-- status -121
Oct 22 02:47:52 localhost kernel: [51257.891409] ohci_hcd 
:00:12.0: urb 8803ea
Oct 22 02:47:50 localhost kernel: [51255.888492] 43f980 path 2 ep1in 
9212 cc 9 -- status -121
Oct 22 02:47:54 localhost kernel: [51259.902338] ohci_hcd 
:00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- 
status -121
Oct 22 02:47:56 localhost kernel: [51261.905256] ohci_hcd 
:00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- 
status -121
Oct 22 02:47:58 localhost kernel: [51263.916194] ohci_hcd 
:00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc


Hello,

   Those messages appear are coming from the ohci driver;I guess, 
possibly a bug in the ohci-q.c file

Did those messages appear after  an gentoo-sources  upgrade?
Did you try booting into an older linux kernel version to see 
if those messages appear?




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-22 Thread Dale
Edward M wrote:
 On 10/22/2013 2:04 AM, Dale wrote:
 I started the UPS service that started this whole mess to see if it
 works.  This is from messages:
 ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc
 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:52 localhost kernel: [51257.891409] ohci_hcd
 :00:12.0: urb 8803ea
 Oct 22 02:47:50 localhost kernel: [51255.888492] 43f980 path 2 ep1in
 9212 cc 9 -- status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:54 localhost kernel: [51259.902338] ohci_hcd
 :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 --
 status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:56 localhost kernel: [51261.905256] ohci_hcd
 :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 --
 status -121
 Oct 22 02:47:58 localhost kernel: [51263.916194] ohci_hcd
 :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc

 Hello,

Those messages appear are coming from the ohci driver;I guess,
 possibly a bug in the ohci-q.c file
 Did those messages appear after  an gentoo-sources  upgrade?
 Did you try booting into an older linux kernel version to see
 if those messages appear?



I been running 3.9.5 for a while but did try my old 3.5.3 version.  That
was with my old mobo but same situation.  Same error.  The biggest
problem, I don't know when the error messages started.  I sort of been
busy and haven't checked the messages file in a while. 

I also tried a older version of nut just in case.  Same thing. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is the ebuild for dhcpcd wrong

2013-10-22 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 22/10/2013 13:37, Chris Allison wrote:
 Hello,

 when emerging dhcpcd it attempts to retrieve the source from
 mirrorname/distfiles/...
 looking at the mirror the file is actually at
 mirrorname/gentoo/distfiles/...

 Is this the correct place to bring this to your attention?

 regards

 Chris
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 That mirror is set up wrong, contact the admins of the mirror you are
 using. Proper mirrors work properly:


It is also possible that he has an incorrect URL in GENTOO_MIRRORS;
not every gentoo mirror sticks distfiles in a top-level directory. For
example:

http://mirrors.rit.edu/gentoo/

This is listed on the gentoo mirrors page.