Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-24 Thread Mick
On Sunday 24 May 2015 10:50:53 Neil Bothwick wrote:
  I found that peeling off
  the self adhesive label in the middle and applying a single drop of
  thin oil on the bearing restores them to rude health.  I have one here
  which is still running quietly for five years since my intervention
  with an oil can.
 
 Given the cheapness of the fan and the price of the component it
 protects, is it worth taking a risk?

Right, but talking about cheapness of components, I had nearly new fans making 
a noise that they shouldn't be making.  I've even returned relatively 
expensive aftermarket coolers because they were poorly manufactured with 
uneven contact surface for the CPU.  What I'm saying is that in today's world 
of mass marketing and el-cheapo manufacturing, where shaving a penny is a 
strategy applied not only on the workers' wages but also on the materials and 
manufacturing process, we are left doing QA ourselves or keeping both pieces 
of whatever breaks.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread behrouz khosravi
Thanks Meino. What do you mean by:

 session-management = windowmanagement




 I dont know i3wm

Its a tiling window manager. I have used it and I recommend it to anyone
interested in tiling window managers.


Thanks


Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Ramdziana Feri Y


On 05/24/2015 05:32 PM, behrouz khosravi wrote:
 Torrent client?
Hi behrouz, for simple torrent client I just use aria2. I never use the
others.



Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-24 Thread Mick
On Sunday 24 May 2015 02:12:34 Joseph wrote:
 On 05/23/15 20:52, Zhu Sha Zang wrote:
 On 05/23/2015 06:53 PM, Joseph wrote:
  On 05/23/15 18:08, Zhu Sha Zang wrote:
  On 05/23/2015 05:24 PM, Joseph wrote:
  I have a box in a remote location (8-core CPU) and it turn itself off
  during compiling
  
  The box it connected to UPS.  Is it power supply?
  
  Maybe. I have a problem like that when using high processing simulation
  with nvidia-cuda and the power supply protection was unable to keep a
  safe energy level then the system goes off.
  
  But, if the failure happens during compilation time can be a heat
  problem. Install lm_sensors and use something like that: watch -n 1
  sensors.
  
  If not, if the temperature stay at safe levels, maybe you have a RAM
  corruption. In this case, you'll need to use memtest86++ to check.
  
  Good Luck
  
  I tried to read the lm-sensors again and the compupter turn crash with
  the readings:
  
  fan1:   0 RPM  (min =   10 RPM)  ALARM
  fan2:   0 RPM  (min =0 RPM)
  fan3:   0 RPM  (min =0 RPM)
  fan5:   0 RPM  (min =0 RPM)
  temp1:+47.0°C  (low  = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C)  sensor =
  thermistor
  temp2:   +106.0°C  (low  = +127.0°C, high = +70.0°C)  sensor =
  thermal diode
  temp3:   +106.0°C  (low  = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C)  sensor =
  thermistor
  cpu0_vid:+1.250 V
  
  I'm suspecting it is power supply.
 
 Hey, did you run sensors-detect and /etc/init.d/lm_sensors as root
 before use sensors?
 
 As was said, maybe you're using wrong kernel modules.
 
 I went to pickup the remote box and look at it; the CPU fan stop working. 
 The CPU heat sink is big so in idle mode it could keep up with cooling it
 but under heavy load compiling anything the CPU was overheating.

Ha!  So the fan speeds showing zero was true.  :-)

Often they start rattling before they fail.  I found that peeling off the self 
adhesive label in the middle and applying a single drop of thin oil on the 
bearing restores them to rude health.  I have one here which is still running 
quietly for five years since my intervention with an oil can.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-24 Thread Dale
Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 24 May 2015 02:12:34 Joseph wrote:
 On 05/23/15 20:52, Zhu Sha Zang wrote:
 On 05/23/2015 06:53 PM, Joseph wrote:

 I tried to read the lm-sensors again and the compupter turn crash with
 the readings:

 fan1:   0 RPM  (min =   10 RPM)  ALARM
 fan2:   0 RPM  (min =0 RPM)
 fan3:   0 RPM  (min =0 RPM)
 fan5:   0 RPM  (min =0 RPM)
 temp1:+47.0°C  (low  = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C)  sensor =
 thermistor
 temp2:   +106.0°C  (low  = +127.0°C, high = +70.0°C)  sensor =
 thermal diode
 temp3:   +106.0°C  (low  = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C)  sensor =
 thermistor
 cpu0_vid:+1.250 V

 I'm suspecting it is power supply.
 Hey, did you run sensors-detect and /etc/init.d/lm_sensors as root
 before use sensors?

 As was said, maybe you're using wrong kernel modules.
 I went to pickup the remote box and look at it; the CPU fan stop working. 
 The CPU heat sink is big so in idle mode it could keep up with cooling it
 but under heavy load compiling anything the CPU was overheating.
 Ha!  So the fan speeds showing zero was true.  :-)

 Often they start rattling before they fail.  I found that peeling off the 
 self 
 adhesive label in the middle and applying a single drop of thin oil on the 
 bearing restores them to rude health.  I have one here which is still running 
 quietly for five years since my intervention with an oil can.


I'm real bad to take a needle, like people take shots with, and poke a
small hole in and oil fans that way.  I also do that to those expensive
high speed bearings on my riding lawn mowers.  I've had bearings last
for decades that way.  It is amazing what just a tiny bit of added oil
will do.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 May 2015 10:09:58 +0100, Mick wrote:

  I went to pickup the remote box and look at it; the CPU fan stop
  working. The CPU heat sink is big so in idle mode it could keep up
  with cooling it but under heavy load compiling anything the CPU was
  overheating.  
 
 Ha!  So the fan speeds showing zero was true.  :-)

Yes, zero fan speed and high temperatures should be inventigated before
being written of as misconfigured sensors.
 
 Often they start rattling before they fail.

They'd have to rattle pretty loudly on a remote box to warn you of
impending failure ;-)

 I found that peeling off
 the self adhesive label in the middle and applying a single drop of
 thin oil on the bearing restores them to rude health.  I have one here
 which is still running quietly for five years since my intervention
 with an oil can.

Given the cheapness of the fan and the price of the component it
protects, is it worth taking a risk?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.


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Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi,

On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:02:13 +0430 behrouz khosravi wrote:
 Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and
 mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast
 machine is to keep the system as small as possible.
 So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE
 with i3wm.
 
 What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?)

I depends on personal preferences. I'm not sure why, but I always
had problems with intensive mail traffic and mutt. Also many mails
are html-base and mutt is not the best way to deal with them.
(I know that html mails are disgusting, but too many people use
them these days to disregard this trend completely.)

So I use sylpheed. It is GUI-based, can read html mails (but not
write them, he-he). So it suits me well. Your mileage may vary, of
course.

 What about IRC client?

Use irssi. It is a reliable and highly configurable CLI solution.
 
 Torrent client?

Use transmission. Just compile it without qt* and gtk flags. This
is a client-server application, so transmission-daemon runs as
system service as unpriviledged user and all management is done via
nice CLI tool transmission-remote. Also transmission is
fully-fledged solution supporting all trends like dht, utp and
so on. You'll love it.

 I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion.

Browser-based solution can't be lightweight, so I try to avoid them
whenever possible.

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko


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Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Sebastián Pedersen

On 24-05-2015 07:32 AM, behrouz khosravi wrote:

Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and
mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and 
fast

machine is to keep the system as small as possible.
So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace 
KDE

with i3wm.

What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good 
choise?)


What about IRC client?


I like weechat



Torrent client?


I like aria2



I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion.
Thanks for your time.


I also use Elinks, mccaber and vim.

Cheers,
Sebas




Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 24 May 2015 11:11:34 Mick wrote:

 What I'm saying is that in today's world of mass marketing and el-cheapo
 manufacturing, where shaving a penny is a strategy applied not only on the
 workers' wages but also on the materials and manufacturing process, we are
 left doing QA ourselves or keeping both pieces of whatever breaks.

Permit me a little quibble: we're not doing QA but QC (control). Not at all 
the same thing. QA is defined in the ISO9000 series of international standards.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 24 May 2015 12:32:40 Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 24 May 2015 11:45:50 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Sunday 24 May 2015 11:11:34 Mick wrote:
   What I'm saying is that in today's world of mass marketing and el-cheapo
   manufacturing, where shaving a penny is a strategy applied not only on
   the workers' wages but also on the materials and manufacturing process,
   we are left doing QA ourselves or keeping both pieces of whatever
   breaks.
  
  Permit me a little quibble: we're not doing QA but QC (control). Not at
  all
  the same thing. QA is defined in the ISO9000 series of international
  standards.
 
 You're absolutely right of course:  I meant, but didn't express it so, that
 we have to compensate for lack of adequate QA and poor QC.  However,
 thinking about it, I am probably wrong altogether.  Said manufacturers may
 have both processes in place, but implemented with comparatively low
 acceptance thresholds for what we expect.  Ahh!  The joys of globalisation.
  :-(

Oh, well - thanks for not taking offence!

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread rhannek

On 24/05/15 15:01, Andrew Savchenko wrote:

I depends on personal preferences. I'm not sure why, but I always
had problems with intensive mail traffic and mutt. Also many mails
are html-base and mutt is not the best way to deal with them.
(I know that html mails are disgusting, but too many people use
them these days to disregard this trend completely.)


You can display html mails in mutt via www-client/links (and other) [1].
It works very well for me. Also you might want to have net-mail/isync or
net-mail/offlineimap and mail-mta/msmtp or some other
sendmail-compatible client because mutt blocks while talking with the
remote host.


What about IRC client?


Use irssi. It is a reliable and highly configurable CLI solution.


Just throwing net-irc/weechat in there for good measure.

[1] 
https://www.debian-administration.org/article/75/Reading_HTML_email_with_Mutt




Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Lee
On May 24, 2015 3:33 AM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and
mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast
machine is to keep the system as small as possible.
 So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE
with i3wm.

 What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?)

Mutt is hard to beat


 What about IRC client?

You'll  want IRSSI


 Torrent client?

rtorrent


 I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion.
 Thanks for your time.

Ymmv, but this is what I use. Also there are several good apps that run in
an x session  without KDE. Others c@n offer advice on them.


Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread wabenbau
Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote:

 Am 24.05.2015 um 16:14 schrieb waben...@gmail.com:
  behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also
  replace KDE with i3wm.
 
  What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good
  choise?)
  
  Many years ago I also looked for a replacement for kmail, because
  kde3 was not longer supported and I disliked kde4. First I used
  thunderbird but I was not very lucky with it (filters were poor and
  enigmail also was not very komfortable IIRC).
  I've tested all available e-mail clients and at the end I sticked
  with claws mail. I'm still using this client and I'm very lucky
  with it. However, if you prefer HTML-Mail, then it is maybe not the
  best choice for you.
  
  Btw, I'm using geany as text editor, ding as dictionary, thunar as 
  filemanager (sometimes also caja), qpdfview as document viewer,
  geeqie as image viewer, sonata as mpd client, audacious as music
  player and xfce as DE.
 
 He actually asked for console tools. The tools you listed are only GUI
 tools.

Sorry. I overlooked this detail.

--
Regards
wabe



Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with mailto (fcrontab)

2015-05-24 Thread Mick
On Sunday 24 May 2015 05:46:37 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org [15-05-24 05:52]:
  On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 03:34:09AM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote
  
   What reasons disable fcron to send mail to me or root?
   
By convention, it seems that all MTAs have symlinks at
  
  /usr/bin/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail and /usr/sbin/sendmail.  Programs
  that automatically send email, expect to find sendmail symlinks.  Do
  you have those symlinks from msmtp?
  
My most embarressing linux moment was when ssmtp sent output from
  verbose cron jobs to root (at me).  My ssmtp was configured to simply
  re-route everything to my ISP's MTA.  The net result was that the output
  went to root@my_ISP They were not amused.  

Well, you are meant to define root's alias address as your own 
my_em...@myisp.com equivalent, if you have set up your local mail program to 
relay messages via your ISP's mail servers.


  That was when I learned
  about setting the destination for all userids  10 to myself.  I also
  ran a script designed to break the symlinks and prevent portage from
  making sendmail symlinks...
  
  rm -r /usr/bin/sendmail
  rm -r /usr/lib/sendmail
  rm -r /usr/sbin/sendmail
  mkdir /usr/bin/sendmail
  touch /usr/bin/sendmail/.keep
  mkdir /usr/lib/sendmail
  touch /usr/lib/sendmail/.keep
  mkdir /usr/sbin/sendmail
  touch /usr/sbin/sendmail/.keep

Unorthodox perhaps, but whatever works for you ...  :-)


That worked great for a few years.  Portage output an error message
  
  about being unable to symlink, but continued.  Then portage changed the
  failure mode to shut down portage when it was unable to create
  symlinks... AAARRRGGGHHH.  Now when that happens, I remove the
  sendmail directories, run emerge to build ssmtp, and then run the
  script to break the symlinks.  I know that it's redundant, after setting
  destination for uid  10, but once burned, twice shy.
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 This is, what I have found:
 
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb 11 19:25 /usr/bin/sendmail - /usr/bin/msmtp
 
 My email address (see above) is different from my userid on my Linux
 box and (personally) I dont have configured anything which alias
 my userid to my email address or vice versa.

Have you configured your msmtp to be able to send messages?  Which SMTP server 
are you pointing it at?


 I will now try to let fcron to mail to me (my userid so to speak)
 instead of root since the fcrontab is alos mine.
 
 When I do something like this
 
 cat file | mail my userid
 
 or
 
 cat file | mail my userid@localhost
 
 I get
 
 send-mail: recipient address my userid not accepted by the server
 send-mail: server message: 501 Syntax error in parameters or arguments
 send-mail: could not send mail (account default from /home/my
 userid/.msmtprc) Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code
 65
 
 send-mail: recipient address my userid@localhost not accepted by the
 server send-mail: server message: 550-Requested action not taken: mailbox
 unavailable send-mail: server message: 550 invalid DNS MX or A/
 resource record send-mail: could not send mail (account default from
 /home/my userid/.msmtprc) Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with
 error code 65
 
 
 Question for me is: Is server my ISP's server? Or a default error
 message or something which is exspected to be installed at my Linux
 box?

It depends how you have configured msmtp.  You are meant to point it to an 
SMTP server which in turn is configured to accept messages from the user you 
have defined in your msmtp configuration.  So, if you are sending messages 
from cron@localhost without having configured an alias for cron: pointing to a 
real email account at your ISP, they will reject it because root@localhost is 
not configured on their mailserver.

If you want to only send messages locally, then set up mailx or equivalent 
application and create necessary local boxen to receive messages in.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 24 May 2015 10:50:53 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 24 May 2015 10:09:58 +0100, Mick wrote:
  I found that peeling off
  the self adhesive label in the middle and applying a single drop of
  thin oil on the bearing restores them to rude health.  I have one here
  which is still running quietly for five years since my intervention
  with an oil can.
 
 Given the cheapness of the fan and the price of the component it
 protects, is it worth taking a risk?

This is the CPU fan we're talking about here. When I took the lid off my box 
the other day to put new SSDs in it, I was astonished once again at the size 
and complexity of the fan on this i5 chip. Not at all cheap-looking!

-- 
Rgds
Peter




[gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and
mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast
machine is to keep the system as small as possible.
So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE
with i3wm.

What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?)

What about IRC client?

Torrent client?

I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion.
Thanks for your time.


Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am 24.05.2015 um 16:14 schrieb waben...@gmail.com:
 behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace
 KDE with i3wm.

 What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good
 choise?)
 
 Many years ago I also looked for a replacement for kmail, because kde3
 was not longer supported and I disliked kde4. First I used thunderbird
 but I was not very lucky with it (filters were poor and enigmail also
 was not very komfortable IIRC).
 I've tested all available e-mail clients and at the end I sticked with
 claws mail. I'm still using this client and I'm very lucky with it. 
 However, if you prefer HTML-Mail, then it is maybe not the best choice
 for you.
 
 Btw, I'm using geany as text editor, ding as dictionary, thunar as 
 filemanager (sometimes also caja), qpdfview as document viewer, geeqie 
 as image viewer, sonata as mpd client, audacious as music player and 
 xfce as DE.

He actually asked for console tools. The tools you listed are only GUI
tools.



[gentoo-user] Re: recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:02:13 +0430
behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good
 choise?)

If I wanted a TUI, I'd use mutt.  I use Claws Mail, mostly because it
has good filtering/processing capabilities, has a plugin
architecture, and has a good user list where devs also participate.
http://www.claws-mail.org/

 Torrent client?

I like net-p2p/rtorrent , which has a good TUI.
https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent






Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 12:07 PM, behrouz khosravi
bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I dont know i3wm

 Its a tiling window manager. I have used it and I recommend it to anyone
 interested in tiling window managers.

What's your take on xmonad?

+1 for irssi
midnight commander anyone?



Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread wabenbau
behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and
 mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and
 fast machine is to keep the system as small as possible.
 So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace
 KDE with i3wm.
 
 What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good
 choise?)

Many years ago I also looked for a replacement for kmail, because kde3
was not longer supported and I disliked kde4. First I used thunderbird
but I was not very lucky with it (filters were poor and enigmail also
was not very komfortable IIRC).
I've tested all available e-mail clients and at the end I sticked with
claws mail. I'm still using this client and I'm very lucky with it. 
However, if you prefer HTML-Mail, then it is maybe not the best choice
for you.

Btw, I'm using geany as text editor, ding as dictionary, thunar as 
filemanager (sometimes also caja), qpdfview as document viewer, geeqie 
as image viewer, sonata as mpd client, audacious as music player and 
xfce as DE.

--
Regards
wabe



Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Meino . Cramer
behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com [15-05-24 12:39]:
 Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and
 mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast
 machine is to keep the system as small as possible.
 So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE
 with i3wm.
 
 What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?)
 
 What about IRC client?
 
 Torrent client?
 
 I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion.
 Thanks for your time.

Hi behrouz,

If you want to be fast and non-gui-applications are as acceptable
for as gui-applications for you...

kmail = mutt/muttng
gui-editors = vim
xine-gui = mplayer/mpv
session-management = windowmanagement
I dont know i3wm (which simply means I dont know ... there 
is nothing hidden between the lines :) I am using openbox.

Only my two cent... ;)
Have fun!
Best regards,
Meino





Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-24 Thread Mick
On Sunday 24 May 2015 11:45:50 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Sunday 24 May 2015 11:11:34 Mick wrote:
  What I'm saying is that in today's world of mass marketing and el-cheapo
  manufacturing, where shaving a penny is a strategy applied not only on
  the workers' wages but also on the materials and manufacturing process,
  we are left doing QA ourselves or keeping both pieces of whatever
  breaks.
 
 Permit me a little quibble: we're not doing QA but QC (control). Not at all
 the same thing. QA is defined in the ISO9000 series of international
 standards.

You're absolutely right of course:  I meant, but didn't express it so, that we 
have to compensate for lack of adequate QA and poor QC.  However, thinking 
about it, I am probably wrong altogether.  Said manufacturers may have both 
processes in place, but implemented with comparatively low acceptance 
thresholds for what we expect.  Ahh!  The joys of globalisation.  :-(

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am 24.05.2015 um 12:32 schrieb behrouz khosravi:
 Torrent client?

rtorrent is quite good.



[gentoo-user] HF Propagation for conky ???

2015-05-24 Thread Meino . Cramer
Hi,

Looking at
http://www.hamqsl.com/solar.html#addwebsite
(left side)
one could find a real nice HF propagation*) display,
which looks like (style-wise) be inspired by conky... :)

Unfortunately all the offered ways to include this
forecast is for webpages and Windows.

I am a Linux-only rebel. :)

Is there any way to make conky to display the HF
propagations? Or anything else displaying these informations
on my desktop background without using just another application,
which needs to be called manually?

Thank you very much in advance for any help!

73!
Best regards,
Meino


*) HF propagation: Weather forecast for HAM radio
enthusiasts and shortwave listeners mainly giving answer
to the question:Broadcasts on which frequency range 
are most likely to be heard best?




Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Alan Grimes
My pattern:

1.  Use FVWM for 5 years.
2. Get sick of it.
3. Try every wm out there and find they all suck nuts.
4. Go to step 1.


-- 
IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel.

Powers are not rights.




Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-24 Thread Ed Martinez
On Sat, 23 May 2015 19:12:34 -0600
Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:

 I went to pickup the remote box and look at it; the CPU fan stop
 working.  The CPU heat sink is big so in idle mode it could keep up
 with cooling it but under heavy load compiling anything the CPU was
 overheating.


I suggest to inspect the CPU's fan/heatsink assembly periodically.
While back one of my systems  CPU's hinksink was coming
unattached from the motherboard.   
-- 
Ed Martinez edward...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 03:02:13PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote
 Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and
 mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast
 machine is to keep the system as small as possible.
 So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE
 with i3wm.
 
 What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?)

  Note that text-based tools split the download-from-ISP, read-the-email,
and upload-to-ISP functions.  I use getmail to download email.  I've
used mutt for years as my mail-client (reading email).  It's text-based,
but you can have it invoke W3M to read HTML email as text email.  For
the filtering function, I use procmail.  It allows me to read from
multiple ISPs and direct email into multiple mailboxes (a many-to-many
relation).  For MTA (sending email out) functionality I use ssmtp.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread behrouz khosravi
Thanks everyone.
+1 for mc too!

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Alan Grimes alonz...@verizon.net wrote:

 My pattern:

 1.  Use FVWM for 5 years.
 2. Get sick of it.
 3. Try every wm out there and find they all suck nuts.
 4. Go to step 1.


 --
 IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel.

 Powers are not rights.





Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] No sound in dosbox

2015-05-24 Thread Mick
On Sunday 24 May 2015 23:15:40 Walter Dnes wrote:
 On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 02:59:26PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote
 
This is not the particular game itself, it's dosbox.  I.e. when I
  
  start up dosbox, it says...
  
  [d531][waltdnes][~] dosbox
  DOSBox version 0.74
  Copyright 2002-2010 DOSBox Team, published under GNU GPL.
  ---
  CONFIG:Loading primary settings from config file
  /home/waltdnes/.dosbox/dosbox-0.74.conf MIXER:Can't open audio: No
  available audio device , running in nosound mode. ALSA:Can't subscribe
  to MIDI port (65:0) nor (17:0)
  MIDI:Opened device:oss
  
It used to work before I re-installed Gentoo (32-bit == 64-bit).
  
  Audio works in linux Youtube, mplayer, mpg123, etc.  It's just dosbox
  that fails.  Google searching did not help.  I saw a few references to
  checking for missing /dev/dsp and /dev/audio.  They are present on my
  system.  Any ideas?
 
   Turns out I had to enable alsa for sdl and dosbox.  Here are the
 required entries from my /etc/portage/package.use/package.use file...
 
 games-emulation/dosbox alsa
 media-libs/libsdl alsa
 
 ...or I could've enabled alsa globally in make.conf

It is enabled in make.defaults for all desktop profiles I think.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel


On 05/24/15 06:32, behrouz khosravi wrote:


 Torrent client?



Another +1 for transmission - the transmission-remote CLI is good, and
the client-server model is great. rtorrent has always seemed a little
off for me, and seems to do a lot of computation in its GUI thread
because it's not really that responsive.

Also, i3 rocks.

Alec



Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Emanuele Rusconi
On 24 May 2015 at 23:30, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 (x)emacs.

But he said keep the system small! ^__^

-- Emanuele Rusconi



[gentoo-user] [SOLVED] No sound in dosbox

2015-05-24 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 02:59:26PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote
   This is not the particular game itself, it's dosbox.  I.e. when I
 start up dosbox, it says...
 
 [d531][waltdnes][~] dosbox
 DOSBox version 0.74
 Copyright 2002-2010 DOSBox Team, published under GNU GPL.
 ---
 CONFIG:Loading primary settings from config file 
 /home/waltdnes/.dosbox/dosbox-0.74.conf
 MIXER:Can't open audio: No available audio device , running in nosound mode.
 ALSA:Can't subscribe to MIDI port (65:0) nor (17:0)
 MIDI:Opened device:oss
 
   It used to work before I re-installed Gentoo (32-bit == 64-bit).
 Audio works in linux Youtube, mplayer, mpg123, etc.  It's just dosbox
 that fails.  Google searching did not help.  I saw a few references to
 checking for missing /dev/dsp and /dev/audio.  They are present on my
 system.  Any ideas?

  Turns out I had to enable alsa for sdl and dosbox.  Here are the
required entries from my /etc/portage/package.use/package.use file...

games-emulation/dosbox alsa
media-libs/libsdl alsa

...or I could've enabled alsa globally in make.conf

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] No sound in dosbox

2015-05-24 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 12:10:56AM +0100, Mick wrote
 On Sunday 24 May 2015 23:15:40 Walter Dnes wrote:
  On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 02:59:26PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote
  
 This is not the particular game itself, it's dosbox.  I.e. when I
   
   start up dosbox, it says...
   
   [d531][waltdnes][~] dosbox
   DOSBox version 0.74
   Copyright 2002-2010 DOSBox Team, published under GNU GPL.
   ---
   CONFIG:Loading primary settings from config file
   /home/waltdnes/.dosbox/dosbox-0.74.conf MIXER:Can't open audio: No
   available audio device , running in nosound mode. ALSA:Can't subscribe
   to MIDI port (65:0) nor (17:0)
   MIDI:Opened device:oss
   
 It used to work before I re-installed Gentoo (32-bit == 64-bit).
   
   Audio works in linux Youtube, mplayer, mpg123, etc.  It's just dosbox
   that fails.  Google searching did not help.  I saw a few references to
   checking for missing /dev/dsp and /dev/audio.  They are present on my
   system.  Any ideas?
  
Turns out I had to enable alsa for sdl and dosbox.  Here are the
  required entries from my /etc/portage/package.use/package.use file...
  
  games-emulation/dosbox alsa
  media-libs/libsdl alsa
  
  ...or I could've enabled alsa globally in make.conf
 
 It is enabled in make.defaults for all desktop profiles I think.

USE=X apng bindist ffmpeg jpeg png truetype xorg mmx mmxext sse sse2 sse3 
ssse3 -acl -berkdb -chatzilla -cracklib -crypt -gallium -gdbm -gmp-autoupdate 
-gstreamer -iconv -introspection -ipc -iptables -ipv6 -libav -llvm -nls -openmp 
-pam -roaming -sendmail -tcpd -udev -unicode

  I'm running default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib.  Out of sheer
curiousity, is it OK to remove the x86 CPU flags from USE yet and assume
that CPU_FLAGS_X86 is used by all ebuilds?  The news item suggested
keeping them around for a while.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-24 Thread James
Joseph syscon780 at gmail.com writes:


 I went to pickup the remote box and look at it; the CPU fan stop
  working.  The CPU heat sink is big so in idle mode
 it could keep up with cooling it but under heavy 
 load compiling anything the CPU was overheating.


Dust is often the culprit on Computers. Just pull the side cover
and blow it out with an air compressor, once a year or so. Dust build up
and also dampen the heat transfer rate (cooling effect) on all sorts of 
parts. So cleaning out the dust allows things to run cool, keeps moving
parts clean and will extend the life of your hardware. This is particularly
acute with the sort of fine dust that builds up inside of computers

Blowing compressed air on fans make them often over speed so be mindful
to only blow on the fans in short bursts. Clean the fans in the power supply
likewise.


hth,
James







Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 24.05.2015 um 12:32 schrieb behrouz khosravi:
 Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and
 mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and
 fast machine is to keep the system as small as possible.
 So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace
 KDE with i3wm.

 What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?)

 What about IRC client?

 Torrent client?

 I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion.
 Thanks for your time.

(x)emacs.



[gentoo-user] net-analyzer/portsentry

2015-05-24 Thread James
Well, we have this gentoo guide for portsentry:[1]This seem a bit dated.
I'd be curious for any information folks use including config file snippets
or deployment strategies, particularly  in a multi-layered scheme.  There is
only basic configuration/deployment ideas in /usr/share/doc/portsentry/.
Something newer/better than portsentry to watch
the ports?


I'm building up a small soho with 5 static ips, including (2) dns servers,
mail and a small (less than 10 domains) webserver all in a dmz' and the
then a few dozen systems behind a second firewall.  Certainly the minimal 
ports to leave open (via iptables on each of these servers systems) as
well as the specific list of which ports to set portsentry to monitor by
category (DNS(bind) :: Web(apache) :: mail(postfix)) would be keen.


Should I put the port scanning on the the systems behind the published
(routed) ip address too just to see what (if anythying) get thru? Nothing
but return traffic should get through to the lan (no ssh  into lan systems
or such will be allowed). 


Reference diagrams of typical soho ( 50 systems) are of keen interest
just to get some ideas.   In fact suggestions on FOSS to use to draw up some
generic diagrams, a wee bit nicer than dia, would be keen suggestions too. 

Tripwire vs AIDE?

Perhaps a iptables protecting the dmz systems and main gateway (single
homed) but a nftables [2] based firewall/gw/router to the  internal lan? 
Note: This is more of a project than a collection of simple (syntax) answers
 to specific questions (although all information is appreciated just to
complete the discussion). Any sensitive information can be send to me
privately for assured confidence.


Your ideas are welcome,
James

[1]   https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PortSentry

[2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Nftables






Re: [gentoo-user] recommended applications

2015-05-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 24.05.2015 um 23:53 schrieb Emanuele Rusconi:
 On 24 May 2015 at 23:30, Volker Armin Hemmann
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 (x)emacs.
 But he said keep the system small! ^__^

 -- Emanuele Rusconi



init=/usr/bin/emacs

doesn't get smaller than that...



Re: [gentoo-user] Tips for fresh install with GRUB2+RAID1+LVM2

2015-05-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:20:29PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
 
 No no no!  LiLo, on a six year old machine actually works well.  It does
 exactly what it says on the packet, i.e. it boots up the machine, and
 nothing more.  I use LiLo, mainly to avoid the complexities of Grub.
 -- 
 Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany)

ack