Re: [gentoo-user] best rss reader?

2020-04-19 Thread Matt Connell
On 2020-04-19 16:15, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
> 1. what rss feed reader do you use?

TinyTinyRSS on a virtual server and a web browser.

https://tt-rss.org/

> 2. what are your theoretical principles that
>guided you to choose the rss feed that you
>use.

Versatility: only a web browser is required, so no additional software
is needed on any of my (many) devices, but I do use the Android app on
my phone just for a better UX.

TT-RSS also has a long list of available plugins to improve the support
for various sites or customize the experience.




Re: [gentoo-user] best rss reader?

2020-04-19 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 09:15:58PM +, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
> summary of questions:
> -
> 1. what rss feed reader do you use?

Snownews: net-news/snownews [1]

> 2. what are your theoretical principles that
>guided you to choose the rss feed that you
>use.

With the recent decision on gentoo-dev to switch the default  target  to  Python
3.7, many packages stuck on Python 3.6 support are  being  masked  for  removal.
Hence,  I've  been  trying  to  avoid  Python  packages  like  the  plague  when
alternatives are available.  Snownews is written in C and Perl (quite a few Perl
dependencies are required, but they're all tiny) and  claims  to  run  any  UNIX
system (which is likely true).

The activity on the GitHub  repository  has  been  quiet  recently,  but  in  my
experience it is remarkably stable and encapsulates everything an R.S.S.\ reader
should.

It is also a terminal application with  customisable  keybindings,  which  is  a
'must' for me.  Unfortunately, it's  only  available  on  amd64,  x86,  and  ppc
architectures; no A.R.M.\ support in portage.

[1] https://github.com/kouya/snownews

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Re: [gentoo-user] best rss reader?

2020-04-19 Thread Grant Taylor

On 4/19/20 3:15 PM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:

hi - could everyone share his rss reading setup?


Hi,


 1. what rss feed reader do you use?


  Primary:  rss2email
Secondary:  Thunderbird


 2. what are your theoretical principles that
guided you to choose the rss feed that you
use.


I want to read things on multiple devices, and IMAP based email does 
extremely well at that.


I have select few things that I don't run through rss2email that I just 
read via Thunderbird's RSS support.




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Re: [gentoo-user] HCL web-page

2020-04-19 Thread Dale
the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 04/19/2020 04:11 PM, Dale wrote:
>> the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> There used to be webpage http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
>>> where use could paste output of: lspci -n
>>>
>>> But is no longer active, did it change?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That site seems to be gone.  I did find some other info.  Maybe one of
>> these links will help replace it.
>>
>> https://www.linuxjournal.com/supportedhardware
>>
>> https://linux-hardware.org/
>>
>> https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware
>>
>> https://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatibility/
>>
>> Each site has its own way.  One lists links to distro sites, another
>> probes your system to see if everything is supported, I didn't test
>> that, and others seem to list hardware separated by type, network, video
>> etc etc. 
>>
>> I seem to recall using that site long ago.  If I recall correctly, it
>> would find the correct kernel drivers etc for each piece of hardware. 
>> Certainly made things easier when trying to do a install on a new
>> system.  Sad to see it is gone.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> I think using: lspci -kn
> will do the trick, it lists the kernel driver in use.
>
>
>


If I recall correctly, it has to be enabled already for it to show
that.  If you have a limited boot media that doesn't support some piece
of hardware, it won't help.  It works more to confirm the driver is
loaded than anything. If doing a new install, or more important about to
purchase new hardware, those types of sites can be of real help.  Also
true if you run windoze and want to switch or dual boot.  I suspect that
site that does the probing thing is for people using windoze but wanting
to switch.

It works if you already have the right driver enabled tho.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] HCL web-page

2020-04-19 Thread thelma
On 04/19/2020 04:11 PM, Dale wrote:
> the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> There used to be webpage http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
>> where use could paste output of: lspci -n
>>
>> But is no longer active, did it change?
>>
>>
> 
> 
> That site seems to be gone.  I did find some other info.  Maybe one of
> these links will help replace it.
> 
> https://www.linuxjournal.com/supportedhardware
> 
> https://linux-hardware.org/
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware
> 
> https://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatibility/
> 
> Each site has its own way.  One lists links to distro sites, another
> probes your system to see if everything is supported, I didn't test
> that, and others seem to list hardware separated by type, network, video
> etc etc. 
> 
> I seem to recall using that site long ago.  If I recall correctly, it
> would find the correct kernel drivers etc for each piece of hardware. 
> Certainly made things easier when trying to do a install on a new
> system.  Sad to see it is gone.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

I think using: lspci -kn
will do the trick, it lists the kernel driver in use.




Re: [gentoo-user] HCL web-page

2020-04-19 Thread Dale
the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> There used to be webpage http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
> where use could paste output of: lspci -n
>
> But is no longer active, did it change?
>
>


That site seems to be gone.  I did find some other info.  Maybe one of
these links will help replace it.

https://www.linuxjournal.com/supportedhardware

https://linux-hardware.org/

https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware

https://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatibility/

Each site has its own way.  One lists links to distro sites, another
probes your system to see if everything is supported, I didn't test
that, and others seem to list hardware separated by type, network, video
etc etc. 

I seem to recall using that site long ago.  If I recall correctly, it
would find the correct kernel drivers etc for each piece of hardware. 
Certainly made things easier when trying to do a install on a new
system.  Sad to see it is gone.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] HCL web-page

2020-04-19 Thread thelma
There used to be webpage http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
where use could paste output of: lspci -n

But is no longer active, did it change?



Re: [gentoo-user] dir or file? >> /etc/portage/package.mask

2020-04-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:12:02PM -0400, John Covici wrote
> 
> I wonder why they are doing this, I find the single file much easier
> to deal with and its easier to make sure I don't have duplicate
> entries this way.

  /etc/portage/package.use/package.use  (giggle)

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[gentoo-user] best rss reader?

2020-04-19 Thread Caveman Al Toraboran
hi - could everyone share his rss reading setup?

i have newsboat, but it got masked.  so i'm now
starting to look around again.

i'm open minded and welling to question
fundamentals in the theory of the optimality of
rss feed readers.

so if you have some principles/theories about what
makes an rss feed optimum, please share these too,
as it might help me think in a better way in my
quest to find the best rss feed reader.

summary of questions:
-
1. what rss feed reader do you use?
2. what are your theoretical principles that
   guided you to choose the rss feed that you
   use.

rgrds,
cm.




Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Complaining about multiple incidents at once

2020-04-19 Thread Mickaël Bucas
Le dim. 19 avr. 2020 à 13:03, Gerion Entrup  a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> does Portage have a "don't stop" mode?
>
> With that I mean the following:
> I'm doing updates with
> emerge -auND world --keep-going --quiet-build --verbose-conflicts
>
> Portage then often stops, saying a dependency keyword is missing or a
> useflag etc. However, this always happens incident after incident, so I
> need to run portage multiple times.
>
> Is there a way to instruct portage to just say: "Ok, here is a
> configuration fix necessary, maybe a use flag must be added, but let's
> assume, the user does this and the use flag is set now. What do I need
> to do next."
>
> Without checking it, this behaviour seems to be more the case in prior
> portage version (complaining about multiple incidents at once).
>
> Best,
> Gerion

Hi Gerion

I believe that what you are looking for are the options starting with
--autounmask, which affect the initial analysis of the build tree,
which is the source of the complaints about missing keywords or USE
flags.
The --keep-going option does a great job at continuing to build other
packages when one build fails.

There are a bunch of them so I don't know how much you'd like to use
but it seems tailored to go forward in almost any situation !
They are well described in "man emerge"
--autounmask [ y | n ]
--autounmask-backtrack < y | n >
--autounmask-continue [ y | n ]
--autounmask-only [ y | n ]
--autounmask-unrestricted-atoms [ y | n ]
--autounmask-keep-keywords [ y | n ]
--autounmask-keep-masks [ y | n ]
--autounmask-license < y | n >
--autounmask-use < y | n >
--autounmask-write [ y | n ]

Adding --backtrack=COUNT with COUNT > 10 (the default value) may push
Portage to look forward a bit more.

However, as I don't use them, I don't know what stability you could
expect from your system after activating any or all of them.

Best regards
Mickaël Bucas



[gentoo-user] Re: dir or file? >> /etc/portage/package.mask

2020-04-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-04-19 12:12, John Covici wrote:

> I wonder why they are doing this, I find the single file much easier
> to deal with and its easier to make sure I don't have duplicate
> entries this way.

Well, as Daniel wrote, you can still keep all the entries in a single
file; you just have to move the file one level down the directory
hierarchy.

I agree though, it seems pointless, and likely to make portage start up
time even longer.

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Re: [gentoo-user] dir or file? >> /etc/portage/package.mask

2020-04-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:12:02 -0400, John Covici wrote:

> > The devs are deprecating the flat-file version of package.*, I
> > have been gettings warnings during emerges indicating that they
> > all need to be changed to the directory layout.
> > 
> > If you ignore this eventually emerge will stop working. I've
> > already taken the few minutes to move all my boxes to the
> > directory layout, and split out the packages to individual
> > files. You don't have to go that far though, the entries can stay
> > in one file under the new directory structure.  
> 
> I wonder why they are doing this, I find the single file much easier
> to deal with and its easier to make sure I don't have duplicate
> entries this way.

Horses for courses I suppose. I prefer a separate file for a package and
its dependencies. Then if I uninstall that package, I can simply delete
the file.

eix-test-obsolete should find duplicate entries, although that hasn't
been an issue so far.


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Re: [gentoo-user] dir or file? >> /etc/portage/package.mask

2020-04-19 Thread John Covici
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 10:23:28 -0400,
Daniel Frey wrote:
> 
> On 4/18/20 10:56 AM, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I /thought/ that /etc/portage/package.mask is a file and using it
> > in this manner works as exspected.
> > Also the docs are of that opinion, too:
> > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.mask
> > 
> > BUT!
> > 
> >   * error: please convert //etc/portage/package.mask to a directory
> >   *
> > 
> > 
> > urges me to make a directory out of it.
> > After doing so, the command starts.
> > 
> > I am confusedslightly...
> > 
> 
> The devs are deprecating the flat-file version of package.*, I
> have been gettings warnings during emerges indicating that they
> all need to be changed to the directory layout.
> 
> If you ignore this eventually emerge will stop working. I've
> already taken the few minutes to move all my boxes to the
> directory layout, and split out the packages to individual
> files. You don't have to go that far though, the entries can stay
> in one file under the new directory structure.

I wonder why they are doing this, I find the single file much easier
to deal with and its easier to make sure I don't have duplicate
entries this way.

-- 
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How do
you spend it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] PHP 7.4 and dev-php/pecl-apcu-5.1.18

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 4/18/20 10:17 PM, Steve Freeman wrote:
> 
> Based on your suggestion, I simply added the following line to 
> /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords:
> =dev-php/pecl-apcu-5.1.18 ~amd64
> 
> It worked like a champ.  Thank you very much!
> 

Now that php-7.4 is stable, we should probably stabilize the (only, in
some cases) versions of the PHP extensions that support it. Feel free to
open a stabilization request bug.



Re: [gentoo-user] dir or file? >> /etc/portage/package.mask

2020-04-19 Thread Daniel Frey

On 4/18/20 10:56 AM, tu...@posteo.de wrote:

Hi,

I /thought/ that /etc/portage/package.mask is a file and using it
in this manner works as exspected.
Also the docs are of that opinion, too:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.mask

BUT!

  * error: please convert //etc/portage/package.mask to a directory
  *


urges me to make a directory out of it.
After doing so, the command starts.

I am confusedslightly...



The devs are deprecating the flat-file version of package.*, I have been 
gettings warnings during emerges indicating that they all need to be 
changed to the directory layout.


If you ignore this eventually emerge will stop working. I've already 
taken the few minutes to move all my boxes to the directory layout, and 
split out the packages to individual files. You don't have to go that 
far though, the entries can stay in one file under the new directory 
structure.


Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Complaining about multiple incidents at once

2020-04-19 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:03:55PM +0200, Gerion Entrup wrote:
> Portage then often stops, saying a dependency keyword is missing or a
> useflag etc. However, this always happens incident after incident, so I
> need to run portage multiple times.
> 
> Is there a way to instruct portage to just say: "Ok, here is a
> configuration fix necessary, maybe a use flag must be added, but let's
> assume, the user does this and the use flag is set now. What do I need
> to do next."

Have you seen the --skipfirst option, to be used in  conjunction  with  --resume
(-r) ? Taking directly from the man page of emerge:

--skipfirst
This option is only valid when used with --resume.   It  removes
the  first  package  in  the  resume  list.   Dependencies   are
recalculated  for  remaining  packages   and   any   that   have
unsatisfied dependencies or are  masked  will  be  automatically
dropped.Also   see   the   related   --keep-goingoption.

--resume, -r
Resumes the most recent merge list that has been aborted due  to
an error.  This re-uses the  arguments  and  options  that  were
given with the original command that's being  resumed,  and  the
user  may  also  provide   additional   options   when   calling
--resume.  It is an error to provide atoms or sets as  arguments
to --resume, since the arguments from the  resumed  command  are
used instead.  Please note that this operation will only  return
an error on failure.  If there is nothing  for  portage  to  do,
then portage will exit with a message and a  success  condition.
A resume list will  persist  until  it  has  been  completed  in
entirety or until another aborted merge list replaces  it.   The
resume history is capable of storing two merge lists.  After one
resume list completes, it is possible to  invoke  --resume  once
again in order to resume an older list.  The  resume  lists  are
stored  in  /var/cache/edb/mtimedb,  and   may   be   explicitly
discarded by running `emaint --fix cleanresume` (see emaint(1)).

Sorry  if  I've   misunderstood   your   intentions;   the   wording   of   your
question was a  little  difficult  for  me  to  comprehend,  but  I  think  this
is what you want ;-)

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[gentoo-user] Portage: Complaining about multiple incidents at once

2020-04-19 Thread Gerion Entrup
Hi,

does Portage have a "don't stop" mode?

With that I mean the following:
I'm doing updates with
emerge -auND world --keep-going --quiet-build --verbose-conflicts

Portage then often stops, saying a dependency keyword is missing or a
useflag etc. However, this always happens incident after incident, so I
need to run portage multiple times.

Is there a way to instruct portage to just say: "Ok, here is a
configuration fix necessary, maybe a use flag must be added, but let's
assume, the user does this and the use flag is set now. What do I need
to do next."

Without checking it, this behaviour seems to be more the case in prior
portage version (complaining about multiple incidents at once).

Best,
Gerion


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